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monitor
United States2408 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/b1jTao0.jpg) August Flood is the first map I've finished in over a year. I intend on submitting it to the Map-ximum contest. Looking for any feedback people are willing to offer! + Show Spoiler [90 Overview] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lFVeb5x.jpg) Currently published on the America and Europe servers. | ||
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RFDaemoniac
United States544 Posts
EDIT: Maybe moving the rocks a little closer to the high ground of the nat so that you could put some pressure on the units attacking the rocks by holding units back there? I'm not sure... /EDIT I wonder if the skinny paths around the back of the corner bases will get much use for runbys. I could see them being largely ignored because of just how far away they are. I appreciate how convoluted moving around the map is. Navigation requires consideration. Why did you put LOSB on the small bridges? Is that to allow a player to be extra punishing by holding the middle? | ||
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IeZaeL
Italy991 Posts
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Pino
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algue
France1436 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
The rush distance looks just a tad bit close here, wiith the short distance between nats. Might want to consider having a centrallish base so that a player can push 'towards' the others with their expansions. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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meatpudding
Australia520 Posts
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
On August 17 2014 15:35 meatpudding wrote: Is the same-level-base feature still established as broken in HotS? I feel like it hasn't been explored as much since the end of WoL. Seems like it would be ok in HotS since P can defend 4 gates with the nexus cannon. Just block the choke with unbuildable rocks to prevent bunker/pylon walls. That being said the main could easily be raised 1 level higher, just to be safe, there's no real reason why a flat choke is advantageous here. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10347 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On August 17 2014 15:35 meatpudding wrote: We've had testing of it before, but it typically always comes back to balancing not breaking PvP and not breaking TvZ (via bunker rushes). This map probably would be playable PvP, but TvZ early game would be pretty stupid. Is the same-level-base feature still established as broken in HotS? I feel like it hasn't been explored as much since the end of WoL. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
Just the choke point should be redesigned a little bit, so that it is blockable with 7spaces from the inside and outside. But I find it great that you try to do a same level main-nat setup. I think it combines well with the double-wide ramp at the natural. Love the long "isolated" middle path with the two highgrounds on each end as well. | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On August 17 2014 16:46 -NegativeZero- wrote:Just block the choke with unbuildable rocks to prevent bunker/pylon walls. That would be interesting, but wouldn't it break walling off your own choke? | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PCKfq9s.jpg) Just to add even more strategic importance to the middle ground/high ground | ||
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SatedSC2
England3012 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On August 18 2014 19:17 SatedSC2 wrote: I've knocked GM players out of tournaments with 4 Gate builds. I almost beat NightEnD with one in the RBBG qualifier the other day. 4 Gate variants still work if the opponent doesn't scout what you're doing in time, and even then it can be difficult to hold with certain openings. All Photon Overcharge does is buy enough time for you to finish your tech building(s) and to get your own Warpgate research finished, but the 4 Gating player will still have a unit advantage once Photon Overcharge ends and so you can still die quite easily unless the tech you've gone for is Dark Templar. A single Immortal or Void Ray isn't going to overcome the ridiculous unit advantage a 4 Gate has. The most reliable way to stop a 4 Gate is and always will be Sentries preventing the opponent from getting up the ramp using Forcefields, and that obviously doesn't work if the opponent can warp-in across the Forcefield. Not to mention that there are other viable Warpgate rushes such as the 10 Gate 3 Gate or the MVP 3 Gate to worry about. You obviously have a massive knowledge advantage on that topic, but what I've seen in terms of 3gate attacks (haven't seen 4gate in quite some time) is that the defender usually gives up the ramp for free and retreats into nexus range and the attacker builds an offensive pylon in the main anyways. | ||
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Quidios
Sweden74 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NroaBsu.jpg) Rest of the gallery. I have used panel doodads on the ground to indicate the unbuildable area and to make it intuitiv for the players. I like the backdoor path and the map is a good variation of the "go around the middle"- type of maps. | ||
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SatedSC2
England3012 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
Also, there are differences in choke length (you can create shorter and longer choke points when not using the standardized ramps as chokes) and alignment (you don't have to do diagonal ramps, but you can use horzontal/vertical chokes). | ||
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monitor
United States2408 Posts
Raising main, extending rush distances a bit (by making the bridges longer) and adjusting the area outside the fourth (aka backdoor third). | ||
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SatedSC2
England3012 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [for example] + Also helps with neobowman's request, which I agree with in intention but not sure if it works well on this map. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GVVfZ8X.jpg) Of course the resource density is questionable but maintaining that base would be very difficult unless you dedicate to it. Oh also, it should totally be September Flood, so much more musical. Or if not that then Autumn Flood. ^^ | ||
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L3monsta
New Zealand149 Posts
On August 18 2014 21:19 Quidios wrote: Great job! As for the Main Choke, I recommend doing it like I've done on my map (3) Shrouded Harbor I have used panel doodads on the ground to indicate the unbuildable area and to make it intuitiv for the players. I like the backdoor path and the map is a good variation of the "go around the middle"- type of maps. Wow that's a really cool idea. | ||
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GeneralSezme
United States58 Posts
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