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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 18:53:29
July 24 2014 08:55 GMT
#1
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Scorpion 61
2 players

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12bases
main2main: 62seconds
natural2natural: 50seconds
uploaded on EU and AM


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He who fights, can lose. He who doesn’t fight, has already lost.



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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 24 2014 09:18 GMT
#2
Is it standard Newkirk style tileset with some original lighting ? It's quite beautiful.

I have difficulties telling which parts of the map are high ground -everything seems so flat. I'll have to try the map on a real game before I can tell how I like its flow.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 24 2014 14:20 GMT
#3
It's mainly Tyrador but with some Korhal and with Agria Grass.
The Lighting is Dominion Lab.
And I changed the fog to be a little thicker and slightly red instead of the standard blueish tone for Tyrador.

Newkirk uses Korhal as far as I know.

Glad you are liking it. I'm not quite sure how to adress the highground/lowground identification problems. Maybe make all the low grounds darker and all the lowgrounds that aren't yet bright, brighter.
If you try the map, please post anything noteworthy in here.
JessicaSc2
Profile Joined February 2014
Poland123 Posts
July 24 2014 14:23 GMT
#4
This is pretty.
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
July 24 2014 18:25 GMT
#5
Getting the tennis balls that roll downhill would be such a pain
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10382 Posts
July 24 2014 18:42 GMT
#6
map is a wee bit confusing with whats up and down.

the thirds are really in the open. my opinion is to make the 3/9 oclock bases ur thirds and move them closer and chokier to make it easier to defend.
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 11:51:50
July 25 2014 05:28 GMT
#7
Is this better?
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Edit: Has been changed to this.
ATTx
Profile Joined February 2012
Korea (South)178 Posts
July 29 2014 09:35 GMT
#8
interesting !
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 30 2014 05:42 GMT
#9
Thanks for the positive critiques. Made some -mainly- aehstetical updates to the OP.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
July 30 2014 10:23 GMT
#10
I really love the post-apocalyptic look of this map.
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-01 07:40:35
August 01 2014 07:03 GMT
#11
I really like the details, tileset and lighting.
Though, the looping roads that lead to nowhere don't make much sense. Would look cleaner without them in my opinion... (nitpicky)

Played a game vs AI, the small 4x4 highground areas near the naturals are awesome for tanks as well as the highground areas near the center. Looks like a very splittable map. Would like this on ladder... I imagine some epic TvT on this map.
sTYleZerG-eX
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico473 Posts
August 02 2014 19:19 GMT
#12
lol tennis courts!!??
I love tennis, and this map looks pretty interesting
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 06:46:19
August 06 2014 07:25 GMT
#13
Does this colorization help with the overview?
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EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
August 06 2014 08:06 GMT
#14
I think so, yes. And I'm partial R/G colorblind, so...
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
August 07 2014 10:31 GMT
#15
Should make it so walking on the highway gives you a creep-like speed boost, to promote respecting the traffic laws.
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 13:00:10
October 21 2014 06:48 GMT
#16
Big Update to the Map and OP (check the new pictures)!

Map Update:
- Changed the 5 and 11 o'clock bases to gold. Added destructible towers. Now these bases should be a little bit friendlier to take on the opponent's side in a CatZ like build or a starvation war in ZvMech.
- 9 o'clock third bases are now a tiny bit closer to the natural
- Added destructible debris close to the natural to allow for 'experiemental' Protoss walling (check the related pics in the OP).
- Added plates (woops; had forgotten about those previously)
- removed a few pathing bugs (hope I got most of them now)
- changes to the ramps left and right of the middle

Visuals:
- Really trying to make the height differences more clear
- Added more eye candy and other visual improvements
- Removed some texture bugs
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 21 2014 07:35 GMT
#17
Aesthetically, the map is gorgeous. I love the little constructions, like the highrise/courtyards and the tennis courts. Really lovely.

Re: gameplay (and take this all with a grain of salt, I'm no expert), the middle of the map strikes me as being a little cluttered. I'm thinking especially of the 7 o'clock aggressive third. There are two separate ramp constructions adjacent to it, and an impassable building doodad in between them. I feel like the impassable building/courtyard is too much. It chokes up the nearby pathways and it gets squarely in the way of a parade push. A few random ideas on how to change it: put the tennis court where the building/courtyard is, rotated 90*, and do something else around the gold (nothing? make it all high ground?)... or draw a giant high ground "Z" that starts/ends where the building/courtyards are now, and intersects the middle of the map connecting the two center ramps you have now.

This is just food for thought. It's a beautiful map and I'd love to see it in WCS.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 21 2014 10:48 GMT
#18
I actually thought I posted earlier in this thread but since I didn't, I want to say that I love that map., both aesthetically and gameplay-wise. Would love to see it on ladder
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 13:34:41
October 21 2014 12:36 GMT
#19
Thanks a lot guys.

@Wasted: Your critique about the aggressive third vs side third scenario and parade pushing isn't unheard. For now I'm good with only changing the ramps in the middle to make the movement a little smoother. I have considered playing around with the highground setup around there multiple times, but I'm not really sold that it is bad.
Personally I think that although attacking that side-third might be hard, regardless of which fourth the opponent takes, it becomes much easier to parade it in TvZ.
For TvP, I think positioning yourself on the large open plaza makes it very hard for the Protoss engage, and though it might be hard to force an army battle, you are in a very nice position to drop in all directions.

@Other: Added a screenshot for ZvZ walling. In that version you don't need a creep tumor, though it takes some time until the creep reaches everywhere. Also parts of the wall can easily be rearranged differently and you can put queens/spine in it instead. Just wanted to show that you can full wall if you really want/need to with only 3buildings. (same goes for other races as well)
Xenotolerance
Profile Joined November 2012
United States464 Posts
October 21 2014 14:11 GMT
#20
Keep off the grass!
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