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ScorpSCII
Denmark499 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/H3C8e.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nKm6p.png) Uploaded to [NA] [EU] [KR] Ratings and Reviews: SC2Melee.net Used in: GSL Season 2 | HotS GSTL Pre-Season | IPL 6 | IPL 2013 Map Tournament | Assembly Winter 2013 Article: DF Atlas, the making of ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lWwPym2.jpg) Based on Sacred Sands Aesthetics + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RrUyD.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3npiS.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pRqgI.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/T2qw4.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ORmBF.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/frHrj.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mHrwY.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3IisU.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Ug0nT.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Y7m3e.jpg) Details Spawns: 4 Playable Bounds: 142x142 Main2Main Close: 152.4 Main2Main Cross: 171.9 All positions enabled Please leave a comment, all feedback is appreciated. | ||
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OxyGenesis
United Kingdom281 Posts
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Veloh15
United States161 Posts
My only concern is with having a choice for a 4th. It seems to me that you can make this possible. To hold all the red bases you can position your army at the red position, but when one takes the green base as a 4th, the army rather naturally moves to the green position. This is great! You even can leave the destructible debris at the 3rd, and play a rather turtley style. But if you take the Blue 4th the Blue position leaves the main exposed, and it leads to some shady chokes. This also requires the destructible rocks to be destroyed. What I would do would be to take make the green base's ramp larger, and easier for an attacker to enter on. I might also re-arrange how close the Blue base is to the 3rd. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SqbdF.jpg) I have to say that this map is marvelous none the less. And my rantings are really just pedantic  I really can't find anything majorly wrong with this ramp.I am curious on your decision on putting one central watch tower since that has been under fire lately. Anyway map looks fantastic I hope to see it go somewhere. I also hope to see a HoTS version! | ||
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SigmaFiE
United States333 Posts
On December 19 2012 06:41 Veloh15 wrote: I am curious on your decision on putting one central watch tower since that has been under fire lately. Anyway map looks fantastic I hope to see it go somewhere. I also hope to see a HoTS version! You might see it on HotS and NA for WoL sonner than you think! | ||
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
cool mechanic with the rocks at the third great job! | ||
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
thanks | ||
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Fatam
1986 Posts
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
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moskonia
Israel1448 Posts
I might give it a play or two if any of my friends will be willing tomorrow | ||
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
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Fatam
1986 Posts
On December 19 2012 08:34 Aunvilgod wrote: Only one player has to destroy rocks to get his fourth? Are you kidding me? Hmm I don't think any player has to kill rocks to get a 4th. You CAN kill the rocks to get an alternate 4th if you don't want to expand towards your opponent (assuming close spawns), but I don't think it's imbalanced b/c while your normal 4th is close to your opponent, his 3rd is towards you. So you both have a vulnerable-ish base. | ||
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Fatam
1986 Posts
On December 19 2012 09:41 TheFish7 wrote: Reminds me of TPW Concrete Dreams and my map Hellholt but it is really well executed. IMO the base configuration in these maps is really the best for 4p maps since it gives the ability to expand in both directions thereby minimizing positional imbalance. You still will have some positional imbalance though. It kinda sucks to me that no tourneys use 4p maps with a layout like this and all spawns enabled. To me its really the forgotten "genre" of map. Yeah it really is the same map as Concrete Dreams just about. But that kind of thing is bound to happen when lots of standard/safe maps are made (I'm not bashing safe maps, they are necessary and sometimes really great, just saying that it's true). | ||
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Semmo
Korea (South)627 Posts
The really thick decals have a cheapening effect at times, so  Also the natural cliffs could do some work so they look more natural. As I said, this is one of my favorite maps from you! It's really good. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
Both players need to break rocks to continue taking 3rd--->4th away from opponent. Is this just a reskin? Looks good. [edit] Though I agree with semmo that the old aesthetics are better. Not that this doesn't look good. | ||
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ScorpSCII
Denmark499 Posts
On December 19 2012 08:34 Aunvilgod wrote: Only one player has to destroy rocks to get his fourth? Are you kidding me? Technically both players have to destroy rocks when expanding to their fourth, assuming they both expand away from their opponent. On December 19 2012 10:21 EatThePath wrote: This map is really distinct from Concrete Dreams because of the distances and shapes and extra routes. Both players need to break rocks to continue taking 3rd--->4th away from opponent. Is this just a reskin? Looks good. Atlas is a remake of one of my previous maps, Sacred Sands. Most of the major changes are mainly aesthetic, though gameplay improvements have been made too. | ||
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SigmaFiE
United States333 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
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Antares777
United States1971 Posts
I have no gameplay suggestions though. This map is a solid 4 player rotational map.  | ||
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ScorpSCII
Denmark499 Posts
On December 23 2012 10:16 EatThePath wrote: I couldn't find any gameplay improvements. Can you explain what changed? I haven't made any big changes, which is why you'll probably not notice. What I have done is mostly pathing refinement (doodads/cliffs moved/removed/added to change pathing), and the natural choke has been changed. On December 23 2012 10:27 Antares777 wrote: I see that each of the mains are color-coded. Why don't you extend the colors to the platforms beneath them? I think that'd be cool. I can see decals that are all just a gray color; you should color code those to match the main bases. I have no gameplay suggestions though. This map is a solid 4 player rotational map. This is something I have considered, but desided to keep distinct to the highest level. Thanks for the suggestion anyway, I might change it in the future. | ||
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SidianTheBard
United States2474 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=388872 Prime, LG-IM, StarTale, FXOpen, MVP, NSH, Team AZUBU SC2, and Axiom-Acer will participate in the “Heart of the Swarm GSTL Pre-Season.” The game format will be single-elimination tournament, best of 7, all-kill format; all tournaments will be done on the HotS beta server, and the maps are the previously used Akilon Wastes, GSL Bel’shir Vestige SE, GSL Whirlwind Se, GSL Icarus. On top of this, new maps Howling Peak, DF Atlas, and TPW Silver Sands will be used starting with this team league. | ||
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