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MNdakota
Profile Joined March 2012
United States512 Posts
May 01 2013 17:00 GMT
#1121
Nice work. Will we be playing again this weekend?
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
May 01 2013 17:12 GMT
#1122
On April 29 2013 15:27 M05513 wrote:
While patch 3 may have just come out, I have an idea for patch 4 (to be honest I haven't been able to use the internet for the last few days so otherwise this would have come earlier):

Widow Maker

The widow mine is now named the widow maker and behaves similar to the Corruptor (if you haven't removed that spawn scourge ability of its). Only, instead of having an AA attack and spawning 2 scourge with each use, the widow maker has no default attack and creates 1 mine with each use of its ability, now named Deploy Mine. When used, the Widow Maker takes 3 seconds to drill a hole in the ground, which it plants a widow mine into. Widow mines are exactly the same as they are in multiplayer, minus the resource cost, supply cost and are now suicidal again (hence the widow maker being used to deploy them). This rewards players for being active for using their widow makers to mine out the map, as they get 1 mine every 40 seconds that can't be stacked up.

This could come with a nerf to resource cost of the widow maker, or making the mines less powerful, but it would make the mine a more dynamic unit that is no longer fire + forget... unless you only like 1 use out of your mines.

It could also benefit from either Aranae Manufacturing or Drilling Claws, or even both, to make it a great support unit for your army.

But won't Drilling Claws be toxic towards the dynamics of the game?

Not really. With the widow maker never actually cloaking, the drilling claws just means that its a quicker time from starting to deploy the mine to when the mine is planted. The Widow Maker never actually cloaks.

So what do you think of this idea?


Wasn't that the orginial idea which inspired Dustin Browder to make the current version of the Widow Mine?
Doominator10
Profile Joined August 2012
United States515 Posts
May 01 2013 19:03 GMT
#1123
On May 02 2013 02:12 Hider wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 29 2013 15:27 M05513 wrote:
While patch 3 may have just come out, I have an idea for patch 4 (to be honest I haven't been able to use the internet for the last few days so otherwise this would have come earlier):

Widow Maker

The widow mine is now named the widow maker and behaves similar to the Corruptor (if you haven't removed that spawn scourge ability of its). Only, instead of having an AA attack and spawning 2 scourge with each use, the widow maker has no default attack and creates 1 mine with each use of its ability, now named Deploy Mine. When used, the Widow Maker takes 3 seconds to drill a hole in the ground, which it plants a widow mine into. Widow mines are exactly the same as they are in multiplayer, minus the resource cost, supply cost and are now suicidal again (hence the widow maker being used to deploy them). This rewards players for being active for using their widow makers to mine out the map, as they get 1 mine every 40 seconds that can't be stacked up.

This could come with a nerf to resource cost of the widow maker, or making the mines less powerful, but it would make the mine a more dynamic unit that is no longer fire + forget... unless you only like 1 use out of your mines.

It could also benefit from either Aranae Manufacturing or Drilling Claws, or even both, to make it a great support unit for your army.

But won't Drilling Claws be toxic towards the dynamics of the game?

Not really. With the widow maker never actually cloaking, the drilling claws just means that its a quicker time from starting to deploy the mine to when the mine is planted. The Widow Maker never actually cloaks.

So what do you think of this idea?


Wasn't that the orginial idea which inspired Dustin Browder to make the current version of the Widow Mine?


Yeah, there were a lot of ideas floating around about making a mine-spawner instead of a detonating mine back when it was 1 shot insta use.
Your DOOM has arrived,,,, and is handing out cookies
Skitz
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia49 Posts
May 01 2013 19:10 GMT
#1124
Been finding it pretty hard to get games with the times I'm on. Gonna try to stay up for the next few hours, if anyone is on I'd appreciate someone to play against
MNdakota
Profile Joined March 2012
United States512 Posts
May 01 2013 19:59 GMT
#1125
On May 02 2013 04:10 Skitz wrote:
Been finding it pretty hard to get games with the times I'm on. Gonna try to stay up for the next few hours, if anyone is on I'd appreciate someone to play against


Feel free to PM me at anytime or add me on Skype and I would be happy to give you a game!

Skype: mndakota
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
topsecret221
Profile Joined September 2012
United States108 Posts
May 01 2013 20:10 GMT
#1126
On May 02 2013 02:00 MNdakota wrote:
Nice work. Will we be playing again this weekend?


Yes we shall! And it will be streamed as it was last Saturday as well. :D

In other news, I fucking adore that Zerg trailer.
ItWhoSpeaks
Profile Joined September 2010
United States362 Posts
May 02 2013 15:04 GMT
#1127
The trailer is pretty solid.

Skitz; you are having trouble finding games because you live in Southern Ameristrelia, us Northern Ameristrelians will be happy to play with you if you send us word in advance. We are still building up a consistent player base. You also can tell your friends. :D
Reflection and Respect.
MNdakota
Profile Joined March 2012
United States512 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 15:35:29
May 02 2013 15:28 GMT
#1128
On May 03 2013 00:04 ItWhoSpeaks wrote:
The trailer is pretty solid.

Skitz; you are having trouble finding games because you live in Southern Ameristrelia, us Northern Ameristrelians will be happy to play with you if you send us word in advance. We are still building up a consistent player base. You also can tell your friends. :D


You spelled Ameristralia wrong, yah cunt!

In other words. I'll have to check out that trailer when I get home from school. I never actually watched it.
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
Skitz
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia49 Posts
May 03 2013 08:15 GMT
#1129
On May 02 2013 04:59 MNdakota wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 04:10 Skitz wrote:
Been finding it pretty hard to get games with the times I'm on. Gonna try to stay up for the next few hours, if anyone is on I'd appreciate someone to play against


Feel free to PM me at anytime or add me on Skype and I would be happy to give you a game!

Skype: mndakota


Thanks man, added. I'll be hanging around the chat channel waiting for you Northern 'Muristrayans to wake up.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
May 03 2013 17:24 GMT
#1130
hey hey, just played my first game of OneGoal! I love this game so much already. One thing I'd really like, is a bar that shows the cooldown for warpgates on the main screen. Is this something that's already been suggested? Would it be very difficult to do?
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
topsecret221
Profile Joined September 2012
United States108 Posts
May 03 2013 18:36 GMT
#1131
Nice, JaK! As far as I'm aware, doing something like that would take triggers and somebody to get the animation shown, along with modifying the UI. It is possible, but I'm not sure how easy that would really be (I have very little experience with the editor).

In any case, how'd you enjoy it? My personal favorite change for protoss is the robo tech: Sentries and colossus are absolutely terrifying. My other favorite is the reduced effectiveness Warp Gate altogether. I'd suggest after researching Warp Gate that you convert two or three Gateways into Warp Gates for shenaniganry and emergency provisions, and macroing off of the rest of them as you would normally. It really is a different dynamic that feels so right!
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 18:53:56
May 03 2013 18:53 GMT
#1132
I really like the new warpgate and I like the sentry/immortal swap. I feel like with flat damage the stalker will be really strong, especially with that range upgrade.

EDIT: I thought of this change because there is a timer for chronoboosts now, which wasn't there before!
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Doominator10
Profile Joined August 2012
United States515 Posts
May 03 2013 21:16 GMT
#1133
The timer for chronoboost I think should be in the vanilla game anyways. They already have one for larva inject, it baffles me how blizzard missed that one. If there is any change blizzard WILL make from OneGoal it is definitely the chrono bar. No excuses.
Your DOOM has arrived,,,, and is handing out cookies
topsecret221
Profile Joined September 2012
United States108 Posts
May 03 2013 21:34 GMT
#1134
A short, short excerpt from the stream last Saturday. Venelisks are the funnest unit to watch ever.

Can't wait to catch all you guys tomorrow night! :D
MNdakota
Profile Joined March 2012
United States512 Posts
May 03 2013 21:54 GMT
#1135
On May 04 2013 06:34 topsecret221 wrote:
A short, short excerpt from the stream last Saturday. Venelisks are the funnest unit to watch ever.

Can't wait to catch all you guys tomorrow night! :D


Those poor medivacs.
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
May 03 2013 22:12 GMT
#1136
On May 04 2013 06:16 Doominator10 wrote:
The timer for chronoboost I think should be in the vanilla game anyways. They already have one for larva inject, it baffles me how blizzard missed that one. If there is any change blizzard WILL make from OneGoal it is definitely the chrono bar. No excuses.


I agree, this kind of stuff should have been in the game a long time ago. I suppose they think it would clutter the screen too much. But even then, make it an option!
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
ItWhoSpeaks
Profile Joined September 2010
United States362 Posts
May 04 2013 15:53 GMT
#1137
HAPPY FIELD TEST DAY GUYS! :D
Reflection and Respect.
MNdakota
Profile Joined March 2012
United States512 Posts
May 04 2013 18:50 GMT
#1138
On May 05 2013 00:53 ItWhoSpeaks wrote:
HAPPY FIELD TEST DAY GUYS! :D


I'll be on all day.

See you there everyone!
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
topsecret221
Profile Joined September 2012
United States108 Posts
May 05 2013 01:00 GMT
#1139
Stream is currently live for all parties interested: http://www.twitch.tv/topsecret221
Spaceboy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom220 Posts
May 05 2013 14:03 GMT
#1140
Hey I just watched the games I played that got casted.. as soon as I saw myself put down that roach warren against Dakota I thought "Wow, these guys are about to be severely disappointed in me!" :D Pretty humiliating performance all told.. but this will only give me motivation to come back stronger!! For the Swarm!!
I am terrible at this game!
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