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moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
December 08 2012 15:06 GMT
#21
"Hostile units"... Well the maps will defiantly be unique.
Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 15:35:32
December 08 2012 15:29 GMT
#22
Just a heads up to anyone who might not have played around with this kind of thing before.

To make neutral units hostile you have to do 2 things:

1) go to the properties of the unit by pressing enter when it's selected and change "Player" from (0) Neutral to (15) Hostile
2) go to Player Properties, click on 15 Hostile, change AI from (Default) to Computer

If you don't do that then they won't actually attack.

by the way, I'm loving whoever put in the hostile unit idea (my submission was "116x116 or less" :-P could have been cool but probably a bit restrictive)
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ScorpSCII
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark499 Posts
December 08 2012 16:21 GMT
#23
While hostile units might sound pretty wicked at first, mind that structures do count as units as well, and that hostile units not necessarily have an attack. I am sure the topic can - with some creative use - make for some interesting mechanics.

On December 09 2012 00:29 Fatam wrote:
Just a heads up to anyone who might not have played around with this kind of thing before.

To make neutral units hostile you have to do 2 things:

1) go to the properties of the unit by pressing enter when it's selected and change "Player" from (0) Neutral to (15) Hostile
2) go to Player Properties, click on 15 Hostile, change AI from (Default) to Computer

If you don't do that then they won't actually attack.

by the way, I'm loving whoever put in the hostile unit idea (my submission was "116x116 or less" :-P could have been cool but probably a bit restrictive)


Added your tip to the topic.
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Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
December 08 2012 17:34 GMT
#24
Hostile units :D awesome. Hoping for some Brutalisks and a Leviathan
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Coppermantis
Profile Joined June 2012
United States845 Posts
December 08 2012 17:42 GMT
#25
Does the map still have to have the Melee Tag? i.e can I use triggers to control the hostile units/use campaign units?
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 18:25:46
December 08 2012 18:25 GMT
#26
On December 09 2012 02:42 Coppermantis wrote:
Does the map still have to have the Melee Tag? i.e can I use triggers to control the hostile units/use campaign units?

Melee tag doesn't exist anymore afaik? You can do anything you want really in a "melee" map and still use it as such. But more importantly, I say, go for it! I want to see what you do. ;D



And I must say I'm very happy mine got chosen. ;D
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
Ruinsteel
Profile Joined April 2012
United States43 Posts
December 08 2012 19:22 GMT
#27
Haven't made a map in a while, so I think I'm going to give this a try! Looks like something that will be lots of fun! ^_^
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
December 08 2012 19:45 GMT
#28
Terraformation
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The neatral unit is a seige tank that block a little cardinal ramp to the natural. When aggro'd it may unseige and chase, but it will return to it's spot.
The player it protects need not worry. It doesn't have vision of the high ground.
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iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
December 08 2012 20:24 GMT
#29
A map with close by air spawns but neutral spores between them would be pretty interesting.
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moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
December 08 2012 20:37 GMT
#30
On December 09 2012 05:24 iHirO wrote:
A map with close by air spawns but neutral spores between them would be pretty interesting.

So do one yourself! And it sounds cool as well!
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
December 08 2012 22:22 GMT
#31
On December 09 2012 05:24 iHirO wrote:
A map with close by air spawns but neutral spores between them would be pretty interesting.

Yeah man make it happen! =D


By the way, what's the best way to reveal hostile units at the beginning of the game? Should I just use triggers? Is there a setting elsewhere that reveals stuff at the beginning of the game (like having neutral depots revealed)?
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
Ruinsteel
Profile Joined April 2012
United States43 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 23:34:10
December 08 2012 23:21 GMT
#32
Well, I finished my map. I didn't use any doodads because I have other things to do today, but I did do some simple texturing! Hope you guys like it, its my first 4-player map, so I'm not sure I made enough chokes, but I made sure to add hostile units in the form of hostile bases. The golds have a PF, 3 MTs, 4 siege tanks, 8 marines, 2 marauders, and 2 medivacs. The 2 center bases have the same thing, minus the siege tanks. Watch towers, if held by 1 player, see almost every attack path (destroying rocks near gold base will not be seen). Not sure how it will play out, but I had fun making it, and that's what counts! :D

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Not bad for ~4 hrs work if you ask me =)

Edit: Map name is Korhal Plaza on NA. Bounds are 156x156 (playable).
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 08:59:22
December 09 2012 00:52 GMT
#33
Broken Paradise
152x152 - published: NA
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Hostile units include marines positioned next to the North and South watchtowers, as well as hostile Missile Turrets on the island expansions.

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Hostile marines, chillin' out in formation.
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A ramp mostly blocked by huge debris, functioning like a choke at first, but can be massively opened up later.
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Sight radii of the central Xel'Naga towers.
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Two hostile Turrets act to control the airspace between the main bases, but also block the expansion.
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Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
December 09 2012 01:24 GMT
#34
Here's mine:

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Published on NA.

You've basically got groups of four photon cannons powered by warp prisms. I was also considering some sort of setup where the defender could kill the pylon/warp prism without getting in range of the cannon so they could leave it up only as long as they wanted. I was a bit concerned about rushes through the paths if you only have to fight one of the sets of cannons, so I added two more cannons to each group and now you can't put a pylon/prism in a place where you could kill and it would still power all four cannons.

Anyway, I think something using pylons which could be safely destroyed only from the inside would be pretty awesome, although I didn't end up using that.
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Coppermantis
Profile Joined June 2012
United States845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 05:46:21
December 09 2012 03:09 GMT
#35
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Published on [NA]

End of Days

This one uses hostile units (named Hybrid Indoctrinated) in two ways:

1: The 11/5 o'clock bases are protected by hostile guardians. (1 Planetary Fortress, 2 Spartan Company, 1 Loki, 1 Siege Tank w/ wall) and will make you work for your high yield resources.

2: Every 11 minutes the nydus worms in the center (which are special versions with very high health and armor) will produce an Omegalisk. This devastating enemy will patrol the middle of the map* for six minutes and then go on a suicide strike in a random direction.

Ignore the top bit, it is the behind the scenes work for the Omegalisk and is unreachable by either player.


* It can be avoided entirely by going the long way around as it only moves in a straight line across the middle

EDIT: Fog update. I like the light bluish-white better than the purple.
TheHourglass
Profile Joined November 2012
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 04:55:29
December 09 2012 04:19 GMT
#36
Heres mine.
a portal tribute!
Sorry, but it may take some time to upload
Typing this from my iPhone.
The map will be up by at latest 12oclock EST.
siege tanks block off the third and the sole path.
Mildly pissed that the fog doesnt work.
Wheatley Labratories
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Ok, why isnt this working?
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moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 05:14:10
December 09 2012 05:13 GMT
#37
I worked on this all night long while watching NASL4, needless to say it was a blast, and I am really happy from the outcome. I did not use the hostile unit aspect that much, but I always wanted to make a gold expansion blocked by cannons, so I did it

The map is uploaded to the EU as "Blue Desert Flower", I know I know, the name is not that good, but I could not think of anything better while being so tiered, maybe something will come up when I wake up. Anyways I hope the maps works out, I think I did a good job with the chokes and the open spaces.

Overview:
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The paths to the 3rd: (each of them can be blocked with 2 2x2 buildings)
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The XNWT: (Notice that the tower barley reaches both of the close entrances to the 3rd, thus making it more rewarding to control the middle since it allows to scout for all ins, or makes them delayed a bit)
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I did not do a whole lot of doodading, but I did most of the texturing if not all I think.
RFDaemoniac
Profile Joined September 2011
United States544 Posts
December 09 2012 05:38 GMT
#38
Inspired by Siskos to have multiple small entrances to each base instead of one larger one, I left the center open and there is space within the base for a zerg army to surround an attacker that comes through the choke before tanks can siege the hatchery.
For hostile units, I put dark templar on any pathable ground not reachable from the rest of the map (the island bases in the corners, as well as high ground pods outside the 5th.
There are also hostile zealots at 4 of the entrances at your 5th. you can't lure them all the way to attack the natural, but you could probably set a trap with them. Otherwise they just protect one path from attack before you have to take your 5th.
There are also hostile turrets in the middle, forcing you to send overlords/medivacs through watch tower vision or all the way around on the outside until they are destroyed.
There are also neutral banelings in the area around the watchtower, which can be targeted once you have detection to allow for splash damage from units that wouldn't otherwise do splash. These areas are signified with green grass on the map.

Antagonite
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Bounds are 160x144, so it's very large... There are 5 full bases and 2 6m1hyg bases per player
TheHourglass
Profile Joined November 2012
11 Posts
December 09 2012 06:09 GMT
#39
On December 09 2012 14:38 RFDaemoniac wrote:
Inspired by Siskos to have multiple small entrances to each base instead of one larger one, I left the center open and there is space within the base for a zerg army to surround an attacker that comes through the choke before tanks can siege the hatchery.
For hostile units, I put dark templar on any pathable ground not reachable from the rest of the map (the island bases in the corners, as well as high ground pods outside the 5th.
There are also hostile zealots at 4 of the entrances at your 5th. you can't lure them all the way to attack the natural, but you could probably set a trap with them. Otherwise they just protect one path from attack before you have to take your 5th.
There are also hostile turrets in the middle, forcing you to send overlords/medivacs through watch tower vision or all the way around on the outside until they are destroyed.
There are also neutral banelings in the area around the watchtower, which can be targeted once you have detection to allow for splash damage from units that wouldn't otherwise do splash. These areas are signified with green grass on the map.

Antagonite
[image loading]
Bounds are 160x144, so it's very large... There are 5 full bases and 2 6m1hyg bases per player

I like the lava-esqe effects at the natural.
What are they?
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TheHourglass
Profile Joined November 2012
11 Posts
December 09 2012 06:17 GMT
#40
Which reminds me: will I have time to work more on the map tomorrow? Mine still needs a bit more work.
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