Possibly. Of course you could make the ramps larger. I guess the issue might lie vs. Z where if they kill the rocks asap you might have some issues figuring out how to wall and where to defend. An interesting concept, there might be a way to make it work

MrSunny

Australia73 Posts

November 14 2016 20:12 GMT

#3965

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I realised maps like this can work but this layout makes expanding difficult

REALRetrO

United States15 Posts

November 23 2016 00:21 GMT

#3966

I really like the old WOL texture and loved bel shir so im trying to make a map to bring back the tileset. This is what i came up with.

cleanpapers

7 Posts

November 25 2016 14:25 GMT

#3967

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MrSunny

Australia73 Posts

November 30 2016 10:40 GMT

#3968

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I had another attempt at a map like this. Not that keen on it but here it is anyway

Also this
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Island maps are more balanced in lotv's current state than ever before.
Was interested, so i made a quick layout to play test

SwedenTheKid

567 Posts

December 01 2016 06:03 GMT

#3969

What's the point of the center watchtower if it's low ground? Also, why so narrow in the middle when it doesn't have to be?

-NegativeZero-

United States2142 Posts

December 01 2016 07:18 GMT

#3970

On November 30 2016 19:40 MrSunny wrote:
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I had another attempt at a map like this. Not that keen on it but here it is anyway

Also this
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Island maps are more balanced in lotv's current state than ever before.
Was interested, so i made a quick layout to play test

interesting idea but i'd like it if there were less bases - it's supposedly an island map but in reality you can just take 5 land-accessible bases and deathball your way straight down the center corridor

MrSunny

Australia73 Posts

December 01 2016 12:14 GMT

#3971

I guess its not an island map exactly, just one that heavily favors air and drop play. I figured some connecting ground was necessary . The reason the choke connecting the mains is so narrow is to completely discourage late game ground. you can just storm/fungal/liberator and ground only is pretty useless (or just get the concave advantage). Basically this was a test to see late game air vs air play. Less bases i agree, but wasn't sure on amount/positions until i played it, that's why they're so basic, i just copy pasted lol

Avexyli

United States712 Posts

December 03 2016 03:49 GMT

#3972

In Blizzard's words, they'd consider an island map if it had 4-5 "free" bases on the main island, and what would make it an island map would be the use of rock towers to open, close and re-open the map in various stages.

MrSunny

Australia73 Posts

December 04 2016 04:52 GMT

#3973

maybe something like this avex?
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Samro225am

Germany982 Posts

December 04 2016 10:40 GMT

#3974

On November 23 2016 09:21 REALRetrO wrote:
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I really like the old WOL texture and loved bel shir so im trying to make a map to bring back the tileset. This is what i came up with.

@REALRetrO:
The aesthetics are solid, especially i like the grassy low ground areas. The overall layout is not bad at all, but i wonder if you realized how exactly some of the map's features interact:
The distance between the naturals' chokes seem rather close than far (120 maximum i'd say from looking at it). Together with the rocks between third and natural expansion the third base is rather difficult to take. Also the way the ramps are set up, the attacker has one point from where both expansions could be attacked equally fast, while the defender would have a harder time to move from choke to choke.

Another thing you want to look out for is the length of the map (roughly naturals' choke to choke distance) in comparison to the width of the map (chokes at your 9 and 3 o'clock expansions). The more these two distances differ (with the length being the bigger number) the easier the map is to split. Obviously the way you design the paths and chokes can change that, but it helps to keep that in mind.

The layout is interesting and in my opinion it could help to increase the map height and in doing so increase the nat-to-nat distance. Also it would be nice to have two more bases. I am unsure if the watchtower is needed.
Hope that helps.

REALRetrO

United States15 Posts

December 05 2016 04:34 GMT

#3975

@samro225am heres a rough draft of some adjustments i was thinking about [image loading]

increased height by 18 (playable 132x140)
added gold base
changed rock layout
added new entrance to side base
since i increased the height, i think the rush distance might be too long due to the rocks. Maybe decreasing height by 9 would be fine.

REALRetrO

United States15 Posts

December 05 2016 07:04 GMT

#3976

Updated!
Increased height (playable 132x140)
Added two gold bases in the middle and changed the middle up a bit.
Increased the distance to adjacent third and removed nat to third path.
I was thinking of removing the watch tower in the middle but keeping the little path between the crack for reaper/workers. Also there is a reaper jump to main at the third touching the main.

TheFish7

United States2824 Posts

December 07 2016 04:09 GMT

#3977

What is the nat-nat rush distance now, how many seconds does a worker take to go from one nat to the other? It might be OK, depending on how you expect the map to play out. I think what you should think about is the dynamics of the 4th and 5th bases and how the terrain might help or hinder each race in different match-ups. One Samro225am mentioned that bears repeating is that it's pretty easy for an attacker to threaten one base and move to another when the defender is on 3-5 bases. The defender has to move their units a greater distance to defend in some scenarios. If I am on 3 bases for example, I am forced to defend the low ground area to avoid being cut off from my 3rd base if the attacker is threatening both my nat and 3rd. This kind of setup can be a map feature if done well but must be carefully considered.

REALRetrO

United States15 Posts

December 07 2016 05:11 GMT

#3978

well since there are rocks in front of the natural ramp as well on the ramp at the third adjacent to the natural, there is only one enterance the attacks can come from early game while youre on three bases(red circle), even if you take the forward third, there is only one main attack path beside the side path that came be blocked by the rock tower before the rocks are broken(Blue Circle). I have had several games on the map and so far taking a third / fourth / fifth base has not been too difficult to do. Nat to Nat rush time is roughly 30-32 seconds for a worker.