I think its cause it feels weird making a map thread and then maybe one of the pro's looking at the version before you get feedback and gets their impression about the unfinished map, and after that, during the picking they already have a set mind about that map, even though it might have changed alot. I know I wont publish a map threads too until I know I wont get picked for that reason (and some more) .

Coppermantis

United States845 Posts

June 25 2012 19:37 GMT

#106

My first submission:

Atmospheric Spire
Made by Coppermantis
Overview: http://imgur.com/p6sDS
Playable area: 172x164

More details on this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=345497

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

June 26 2012 04:16 GMT

#107

On June 26 2012 01:36 FlaShFTW wrote:

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Please make threads for these maps.

I don't think I'm in the right here to say this, as I am not an organizer, nor anyone that will be involved in this event directly, but please make map threads BEFORE you post the maps and submissions into this thread. It makes it easier for us to give feedback, unless of course you don't want any feedback on the maps at all. Also make sure you format it in the correct way too.

<3

Having a thread isn't necessary

as long as it is posted here and sent to the email address we're happy.

FlaShFTW

United States10480 Posts

June 26 2012 04:39 GMT

#108

On June 26 2012 13:16 Plexa wrote:

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Having a thread isn't necessary

as long as it is posted here and sent to the email address we're happy.

Yes, but I'm not. AND I AM THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS HERE!!!

Adonminus

Israel543 Posts

June 26 2012 06:18 GMT

#109

Map Name: Sacred Gardens
Author: Adonminus
Map Overview: + Show Spoiler +

Playable Map Bounds: 148x166

Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=347969

Adonminus

Israel543 Posts

June 26 2012 06:22 GMT

#110

I have a question, if you send the map to the email right now, will any further map updates be accepted or should I only send the final version?

ScorpSCII

Denmark499 Posts

June 26 2012 06:27 GMT

#111

On June 26 2012 15:22 Adonminus wrote:
I have a question, if you send the map to the email right now, will any further map updates be accepted or should I only send the final version?

You should be able to send updates as long as the deadline is not over, but I think the judges would prefer if you only send the final map.

Guardian85

162 Posts

June 26 2012 07:05 GMT

#112

On June 25 2012 21:25 Infidler wrote:
"Please send your map files to submit.motm[at]gmail.com (include your user name in subject) and post your overviews with any additional information in this thread. Follow this format while posting in this thread to ensure your entry is accepted:"

By "and post your overviews with any additional information in this thread" do you mean post the additional information in the mail or on this forum post?

sorry if this is a obvious question, thanks

Afaik, fellow norwegian

A thread, from my experience can not be a E-mail.

IronManSC

United States2119 Posts

June 26 2012 07:24 GMT

#113

So i'm curious... Are the pros allowed to actually work on the map? Or can we only give feedback and watch the amateur? I can see it being really easy to take a amateur's map and then just apply changes and he just sits and watches...

How will this work?

ihasaKAROT

Netherlands4730 Posts

June 26 2012 07:38 GMT

#114

Im pretty sure it will go something like:

In a skypecall :
- The third-layout is abit too small and narrow, lets widen that a little. Try adjusting the ramps
~ Like this?
- No more like in this way, but then all the way trough.
~ Ah ok so If I do this this and this it will be better.
- Exactly, now mirror it to the other side
~ How do I do that easily without having to count gridcells?
- Just select terrain, copy and numpad . , like this

etcetc

Sea_Food

Finland1612 Posts

June 26 2012 07:44 GMT

#115

On June 26 2012 16:38 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Im pretty sure it will go something like:

In a skypecall :
- The third-layout is abit too small and narrow, lets widen that a little. Try adjusting the ramps
~ Like this?
- No more like in this way, but then all the way trough.
~ Ah ok so If I do this this and this it will be better.
- Exactly, now mirror it to the other side
~ How do I do that easily without having to count gridcells?
- Just select terrain, copy and numpad . , like this

etcetc

I dont have skype or a mic, am i disqualified?

But honestly, I dont think it will be like that, such an huge effort for both of the guys.
I would imagine it more being like they discuss via anything what to do first, and then the amatour does it/some of it, and then the pro finalizes it.

I mean its a competition to win for the pros and the ametour first, a learning experience 2nd. Or atleast it would be for me, in either places.

ScorpSCII

Denmark499 Posts

June 26 2012 07:48 GMT

#116

Or something like this:

- You should consider moving this base more to the left.
~ No.
- In that case, I'd suggest you to put rocks there.
~ I like it as it is.
- Sure. But you will have to remove this other base then, or move it further away.
~ No.

Either that, or the amateur will just hand over the map to the pro and go to bed.

ihasaKAROT

Netherlands4730 Posts

June 26 2012 08:02 GMT

#117

Well, maps get better the more people look at it closely. I'd love all the pros to take a look at my map, it helps alot!

so to all the pro's that end up with Scorps situation -> give me a poke

NewSunshine

United States5938 Posts

June 26 2012 08:09 GMT

#118

On June 26 2012 16:24 IronManSC wrote:
So i'm curious... Are the pros allowed to actually work on the map? Or can we only give feedback and watch the amateur? I can see it being really easy to take a amateur's map and then just apply changes and he just sits and watches...

How will this work?

I would think you should have a decent idea already. I don't see this being much different from the dynamic of a mapmaking team.

Meltage

Germany613 Posts

June 26 2012 10:58 GMT

#119

On June 26 2012 17:09 NewSunshine wrote:

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I would think you should have a decent idea already. I don't see this being much different from the dynamic of a mapmaking team.

The difference might be the question about who owns the map, beacuse one way of working on several maps at a time within a team effectively, is to have one owner - which is most likely the one who made the orignial.

When it comes to level design in the games industry, however, it is quite common that basic concpets are made by one person, then passed on to another for mockup and testing, then another for aesthetics and so on, i.e. the ownership changes with iterations.

Bottom line, unles there are some ruelas about it, it's up to the proAm teams to choose how they want to do and part of the challenge.

Johanaz

Denmark363 Posts

June 26 2012 11:43 GMT

#120

First of all, the map is ultimately submitted end of July as co-authored, with a potential prize split 50-50. So to me, that means shared ownership. That said, I enjoy helping others better themselves, so I for one would not just get the map file and say: "thanks young padawan, I'll take it from here".

I will however get the map file and do some stuff, send it back and say: "see what I did there whaddaya think?" Just like I did for you with Ohana and Fractured