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Stevefrench
Canada2 Posts
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
Terran
Protoss
Zerg
Poll: Should the Widow Mine be Random Optional? No, it should always be in the random pool (20) Yes, players should be able to remove it from the random pool (7) 27 total votes Your vote: Should the Widow Mine be Random Optional? (Vote): Yes, players should be able to remove it from the random pool Poll: How should the Mothership Core be treated? It should be lumped with the Mothership (22) Always allowed: it is a necessary tool like the Queen (15) It should be its own unit, not Random Optional (1) It should be its own unit, Random Optional (0) 38 total votes Your vote: How should the Mothership Core be treated? (Vote): Always allowed: it is a necessary tool like the Queen | ||
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Yokuyin
Netherlands1 Post
A way to determine which map will be played on a certain day is to have a map rotation, for example Deadlock Ridge -> District 10 -> Extinction -> Fossil Quarry -> Megaton -> Outpost -> Sand Canyon -> Deadlock Ridge again. An added bonus is that you can add custom 4v4 maps of map makers to promote the map and to test the map. Another option is to be able to vote each day on the map of the next day, like PeepMode currently does. A disadvantage is is that you need people to vote and that it's possible you'll see the same maps again and again. That's my 2 cents. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On December 07 2012 06:22 Yokuyin wrote: I have an idea for an Bx Monobattle map. In the arcade there is a map called 1v1 Obs - Map of the Day, where you can play the PeepMode mod (a mod where you play 1v1s with additional spectator options) on a different map each day. Is it possible to have a Bx Monobattle map where the map changes every day? Nowadays everyone gathers at the same map for a monobattle match, and playing the same map for months gets stale after a while. Creating a map where the map changes every day could solve that problem (if we get some traffic on that map). A way to determine which map will be played on a certain day is to have a map rotation, for example Deadlock Ridge -> District 10 -> Extinction -> Fossil Quarry -> Megaton -> Outpost -> Sand Canyon -> Deadlock Ridge again. An added bonus is that you can add custom 4v4 maps of map makers to promote the map and to test the map. Another option is to be able to vote each day on the map of the next day, like PeepMode currently does. A disadvantage is is that you need people to vote and that it's possible you'll see the same maps again and again. That's my 2 cents. I did a Map of the Week (changing the map daily seemed like too much of a chore) on NA for a few weeks. When there was no interest for it and people continued to play exclusively the modified Sand Canyon, I stopped doing it. Compared to how many people play BxM, very few people visit this thread and I don't like injecting messages straight into the mod anymore. Maybe (MAYBE) when HotS hits I'll try to squeeze a Map of the Week in there again. | ||
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PopcornColonel
United States769 Posts
It sucks when you lose as BC raven ultralisk sentry because they had phoenix siege tank archon viking | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On December 07 2012 12:49 PopcornColonel wrote: -.- I hate the fact that it's all random. I'd like to see a drafting captain's mode like with Defense of the Ancients with bans and picks. It sucks when you lose as BC raven ultralisk sentry because they had phoenix siege tank archon viking When the draft modes hit after HotS releases, they will still not be the default mode. Anything other than Blind Random would cause drama in public games. | ||
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PopcornColonel
United States769 Posts
On December 07 2012 13:21 urashimakt wrote: When the draft modes hit after HotS releases, they will still not be the default mode. Anything other than Blind Random would cause drama in public games. IMO the best was the gamemode "Megaton (Team Monobattles)" where you could choose your hero. There was rarely anything wrong with that. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On December 07 2012 13:56 PopcornColonel wrote: IMO the best was the gamemode "Megaton (Team Monobattles)" where you could choose your hero. There was rarely anything wrong with that. Bx already has a game mode for that. Again, it's not the default because anything other than Blind Random in public games causes drama. | ||
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PopcornColonel
United States769 Posts
On December 08 2012 04:00 urashimakt wrote: Bx already has a game mode for that. Again, it's not the default because anything other than Blind Random in public games causes drama. I realize that there is a game mode for that but actually nobody plays anything else. Over my 150+ games of all-pick of monobattle units, I've never had a problem with "drama" as you so call it; in fact, most people random anyway. "r medivac" "r bane" "r corruptor" "r immortal" | ||
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Kmatt
United States1019 Posts
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On December 09 2012 04:06 PopcornColonel wrote: I realize that there is a game mode for that but actually nobody plays anything else. Over my 150+ games of all-pick of monobattle units, I've never had a problem with "drama" as you so call it; in fact, most people random anyway. "r medivac" "r bane" "r corruptor" "r immortal" I agree that it's frustrating to not be able to get the game mode that you want. I offer the option, but the popularity system is rigged against multiple options. Blind Random Bx Monobattles trumped Megaton Team Monobattles (on NA) in the end because of exactly what you've mentioned: people played mostly just to random. Other people picking their units to "try-hard" and the improved randoming options of Bx are what drove players to make the switch. Changing it so that picking is the default would obviously be less popular. I'm not trying to crush your spirit or dangle candy just out of reach and I always appreciate feedback. I'm just trying to explain why I will not change the default mode to anything other than Blind Random at this point in time. On December 09 2012 04:47 Kmatt wrote: I always try to play MotW or anything other than Sand Canyon. This results in me sitting in an empty lobby for 20 minutes where no one joins save for a straggler every 8 minutes or so who immediately leaves. Would you be able to re-upload the Sand version so that that popularity resets and we can start picking a new one? I ask people in almost every game I join and they all agree that they'd rather play something different but because Sand is the only one people join, they keep playing it. When HotS hits (in March) I will be pushing for a Map of the Week to be the new standard. If HotS doesn't automatically reset every map's popularity, I will strongly consider doing it manually. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
Player Settings
No new changes will be coming to the Wings of Liberty version of the mod as I start development on the Heart of the Swarm version, which will become available for testing on the beta server shortly. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/N1cWm.png) Bx Monobattle - HotS is now available on the beta server. The current map is the altered Sand Canyon but will change periodically. The default mode will also be Blind Pick in order to facilitate testing for the duration of the beta. | ||
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PopcornColonel
United States769 Posts
On December 11 2012 18:00 urashimakt wrote: Bx Monobattle - HotS is now available on the beta server. The current map is the altered Sand Canyon but will change periodically. The default mode will also be Blind Pick in order to facilitate testing for the duration of the beta. AWESOME!!! BLIND PICK!!! Not blind random :D:D + Show Spoiler + Now I just can't wait for my beta key :/ | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
You do need the beta client to watch it. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CMP9Z.png) As promised, Bx Monobattle will include team draft modes as it incorporates Heart of the Swarm gameplay changes. The new game modes will be included in this weekend's updates along with a couple HotS bug fixes, style updates and a different 4v4 map. The draft modes strictly require a 4v4 setup. Any deviation will cause the game to abort. New Modes
+ Show Spoiler [Unit Tiers] + Tier 1 (10 units total)
Tier 2 (23 units total)
Tier 3 (8 units total)
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
Gameplay
Now that the drafting selection mode is fully functional, adding additional draft modes with alternate rules is incredibly simple. If anyone suggests any interesting or useful drafting rules they will be inserted as a mode. As always, feedback is appreciated. | ||
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echonn123
United States6 Posts
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On December 17 2012 18:14 echonn123 wrote: Any chance anything can be done about canon rushing? I know that canons are a core component to the game but its a little ridiculous how many matches end up with canon rushing. It sours the game completely, especially when this is a custom game where it doesn't matter who wins. I've considered preventing the construction of cannons within range of enemy structures but frankly people have come to see cannon/spine crawler rushing as legitimate tactics. Ever since I tried to neuter the Queen I've stopped trying to introduce special rules to make it more competitive. | ||
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echonn123
United States6 Posts
On December 17 2012 20:02 urashimakt wrote: I've considered preventing the construction of cannons within range of enemy structures but frankly people have come to see cannon/spine crawler rushing as legitimate tactics. Ever since I tried to neuter the Queen I've stopped trying to introduce special rules to make it more competitive. I just feel like, so what? The game mode is about 4 players being able to build one unit each and having epic battles. If people wanna use cannons and spine crawler rushing as a strategy then they can go to regular fours. This is a custom game mode developed for a very specific purpose. Cannon rushing just spoils the whole experience for me and it allows trolls to just have endless hours of entertainment at the expense of others. It would be really awesome if a range limitation was built in to the cannons even for just the first five minutes of a game. Anyway thanks for responding. | ||
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