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LostnFound
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 03:52:51
January 10 2012 01:28 GMT
#41
Very nice looking map. Congrats on your unretirement. I tried playing your map on NA, but could not play multiplayer for some reason. So, I wandered the map with blinkstalkers for 20 min.

Tech issues.
1. The lower R small bridge (which I believe is supposed to be impassable) has a glitch that allows stalkers to walk over it with a jumping glitch.
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2. you can blink/drop onto the landscape behind the mains
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3. You can blink from 3rd to middle ground without vision up there. Maybe this intentional.(Correction, I had the tower controlled when I did this)
4. You can blink into the trees by third.
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Balance concerns
As P, I am terrified to take a 3rd. Two wide ramps to either 3rd and wide open air for mutas and medivacs. Outside of 2 base play, I don't see a lot for P. If you get some higher level replays, it would be great to see.

Excellent work coming from ESV!! Congrats.

PS sorry for the weird borders of the pics. photobucket editor not updating.
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
January 10 2012 04:43 GMT
#42
On January 10 2012 10:28 LostnFound wrote:
Very nice looking map. Congrats on your unretirement. I tried playing your map on NA, but could not play multiplayer for some reason. So, I wandered the map with blinkstalkers for 20 min.

Tech issues.
1. The lower R small bridge (which I believe is supposed to be impassable) has a glitch that allows stalkers to walk over it with a jumping glitch.
2. you can blink/drop onto the landscape behind the mains
3. You can blink from 3rd to middle ground without vision up there. Maybe this intentional.

Balance concerns
As P, I am terrified to take a 3rd. Two wide ramps to either 3rd and wide open air for mutas and medivacs. Outside of 2 base play, I don't see a lot for P. If you get some higher level replays, it would be great to see.

Excellent work coming from ESV!! Congrats.

...Can you show me screenshots of some of this stuff? I have pathing blockers on the landscape behind the mains so that shouldn't be happening, I was under the impression the bridge wasn't pathable but I blocked it anyway and the 3rd point doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me o_o
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10373 Posts
January 10 2012 04:52 GMT
#43
If the bottom player spawned at the right instead, the expansion layout is almost the same as destination kekekek xD
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Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 07:12:34
January 10 2012 07:11 GMT
#44
Looks good, the mains look like a (horizontal flip) Destination and the center looks like mini-Match Point

edit: except at a closer look the bridges aren't remotely close to being the nat =X
vdAcE
Profile Joined January 2012
8 Posts
January 11 2012 14:53 GMT
#45
This map is available on the European server?
vdAcE
Profile Joined January 2012
8 Posts
January 14 2012 20:33 GMT
#46
Sorry, there is the possibility to upload this map on EU servers?
I would love to try this map ......
thanks a lot!
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
January 16 2012 05:53 GMT
#47
Hi Prodig, do you think you could reupload this on NA? It is marked as only 1 player only, which makes it impossible to test/try out. Thank you!
farside604
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada127 Posts
January 16 2012 07:39 GMT
#48
This is a sick map can' wait to try it. Tons of routes to the opponents base which will make for some interesting dynamics. Also it just looks gorgeous.
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
January 16 2012 20:49 GMT
#49
On January 16 2012 14:53 joshie0808 wrote:
Hi Prodig, do you think you could reupload this on NA? It is marked as only 1 player only, which makes it impossible to test/try out. Thank you!

Fixed~ Thanks for point that out
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
CrY.
Profile Joined July 2010
Japan97 Posts
January 16 2012 21:47 GMT
#50
The only thing holding back this map from becoming a classic is the backdoor rocks. I know you might think them
"unexplored" but backdoor rocks are just bad design imho..like the ledges on LT..THAT bad.

It's easy to see you put a lot of work into it and you are one of my favorite mapmakers..again imho takes more knowledge and patience than the game itself. Looking at high level players do all the things I already do doesn't excite me, whether you believe it or not..but making maps is an art I don't have the talents for. Props.

Again, really, I urge you to just simply take out the backdoor rocks. There's a reason blizzard stopped implementing them in the map pools (blistering, something valley ). Thanks for reading, cheers from Japan
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
January 16 2012 21:59 GMT
#51
wow this map is beautiful, hopefully it will be casted in gsl matches soon, would love to see that!
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vdAcE
Profile Joined January 2012
8 Posts
January 20 2012 13:20 GMT
#52
Please, you can load this map on EU servers ?????
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
January 20 2012 22:13 GMT
#53
G_Wen is a bawss and got it published on EU. Enjoy :D
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
February 10 2012 07:18 GMT
#54
v1.1 is up! Changes include a bridge blocked by rocks to the 12 and 6 oclock expansions to improve accessibilty and flow for the defending player as well as a more choked third to make it more defensible and able to be simcitied.

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ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
qwertzi
Profile Joined March 2011
111 Posts
February 21 2012 19:21 GMT
#55
hey,

I really liked your map from the looks of it! but when i wanted to tray it with a couple of buddys, it just wouldnt work!
I am playing on EU, and I can create a game, and other can join, however, it was not possible to set the game to 1-1 or melee or anything but custom. And on the default settings, the maps had only one player :-*(

prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-21 22:19:53
February 21 2012 22:18 GMT
#56
On February 22 2012 04:21 qwertzi wrote:
hey,

I really liked your map from the looks of it! but when i wanted to tray it with a couple of buddys, it just wouldnt work!
I am playing on EU, and I can create a game, and other can join, however, it was not possible to set the game to 1-1 or melee or anything but custom. And on the default settings, the maps had only one player :-*(


...I thought I fixed that? I'll look into it

EDIT: Just have the unfixed version on EU atm, I'll get the fix up asap 8)
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
qwertzi
Profile Joined March 2011
111 Posts
February 22 2012 08:26 GMT
#57
On February 22 2012 07:18 prodiG wrote:
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On February 22 2012 04:21 qwertzi wrote:
hey,

I really liked your map from the looks of it! but when i wanted to tray it with a couple of buddys, it just wouldnt work!
I am playing on EU, and I can create a game, and other can join, however, it was not possible to set the game to 1-1 or melee or anything but custom. And on the default settings, the maps had only one player :-*(


...I thought I fixed that? I'll look into it

EDIT: Just have the unfixed version on EU atm, I'll get the fix up asap 8)


awesome man!

I really enjoy you guys maps! thanks!
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
April 03 2012 22:41 GMT
#58
Map is now published on NA, EU, SEA and KR under the name ESV Deception 1.1 on the account ESVMaps - Please use this version!!!

Let me know if you run into any bugs or other issues!
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 28 2012 05:30 GMT
#59
Hi prodiG, I'm a big fan of your mapmaking, and I thought I'd give this map a try, but I wasn't able to find it on NA. has it been taken down?
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