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ZJAT
United States83 Posts
My sentiments exactly.... Detection just seems like such a pain in the ass to get now. Not to turn this into any balance discussion, but I think Viper for balance and for the sake of zerg, should come at Hive, and leave the cheap Seer where it is! Anyone have a source on that Adrenal removal? I've never heard this once until this thread. Are entombs shared life? or are they 75 each? Cause that's a huge difference for a harass! | ||
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Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
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phathom321
United States1730 Posts
On November 01 2011 08:43 Kluey wrote: Half of the hots units will basically be removed so why are poeple making balance statements.. Because they get removed when people whine about balance. If everyone said absolutely nothing, nothing would happen. | ||
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JinnAxel
Canada50 Posts
On November 01 2011 06:02 NormandyBoy wrote: Oracle is so OP : there is no alert that you can't mine, you have to watch your bases constantly and the worst is that your units don't attack the bubbles automatically, you have to target fire them, its such an APM sink... Not really, idle workers will pop up in the corner, that's a pretty big sign that something's up. Having a voice alert just makes it too easy. If blizzard does add an alert to it, they'll definitely be raising the collective HP of the forcefield, or making each forcefield have it's own hp. Was notified that it is in fact 45, which makes sense since it is a single fire relatively low attack speed weapon. Almost certain they will. According to this video starting around 57 seconds, the tempest has it's attack/attack speed shown for it's VsGround attack. It is definitely 35. As for the second point, we should keep it as close as possible to the build shown at Blizzcon, no? It's only meant to preview, and give the people who weren't able to attend, a taste of what the current build for HotS is. In terms of balance, there shouldn't be any balance right now, some units are going to be OP. There's no denying that. On November 01 2011 08:43 Kluey wrote: Half of the hots units will basically be removed so why are poeple making balance statements.. Not Removed, just tweaked, probably. Maybe they'll be some exceptions, but some things might be able to work and still be balanced, as long as numbers get tweaked (except for maybe the replicant, that one might be a little hard) I think Browder said that they look at interesting ideas then they work on balance. If they have balance be their top priority, they wouldn't even add new units as they already have a (relatively) balanced game. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
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BMM
United Kingdom50 Posts
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memcpy
United States459 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
That said, a combination of the 2 provides simply monstrous turtling capabilities. | ||
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-GupO-
United States38 Posts
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ZJAT
United States83 Posts
On November 01 2011 12:48 kRaP.sKy wrote: the swarm host is around 8-9 dmg per second not 14 per .82 its too strong. Actually reddit says 14 while a bnet thread says 15, both say .833 for attack speed. Reddit says locusts have 110 life while the bnet thread says 90. I'm not sure who is right, but it's kinda strong unit for how much ppl have dismissed it. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 01 2011 09:22 avilo wrote: lol i just played a game as toss and went 4 oracles...the guy's economy nosedived to zero over n over again...lol...@_@ this thing is good yeah.. vs zerg its insane haha. He needs like, 3 spines and a spore or two at each base just to have a decent economy | ||
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-GupO-
United States38 Posts
On November 01 2011 13:11 ZJAT wrote: Actually reddit says 14 while a bnet thread says 15, both say .833 for attack speed. Reddit says locusts have 110 life while the bnet thread says 90. I'm not sure who is right, but it's kinda strong unit for how much ppl have dismissed it. lol yea its wayyy to strong. everyone tells me though it was alot weaker in the actual hots. | ||
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courtpanda
866 Posts
also, is there a counter to arc shield assimilator rush other than using all your workers to target them down? | ||
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Tortious_Tortoise
United States944 Posts
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Cuiu
Germany410 Posts
On November 01 2011 13:34 Plexa wrote: yeah.. vs zerg its insane haha. He needs like, 3 spines and a spore or two at each base just to have a decent economy that sounds like a nice opening for toss :D @XenoX101 thx for this map dude, im sure thats alot of work and this needs appreciation so thx once again. On November 01 2011 14:03 alexlw92 wrote: jeez swarm hosts are overpowered. are you sure you got their numbers and not double? also, is there a counter to arc shield assimilator rush other than using all your workers to target them down? nah thats just broken.i would say take your gas without using it | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
I think the oracle is strong, as its so fast meaning its good at scouting, so you know can you build more without dying or not. I think its speed should be reduced, or the the energy cost of entomb increased. I am fine with locotus being strong thou. This is because they are melee and so slow that if you see them on the field, you never need to engage, and slow melee units should not be so strong at breaking defense, even if they do high DPS. That means swarm host are units that give map controll. They are not a unit that is good at atacking, but they are good at protecting an area, as if enemies go near it, it can do high damage. Even thou its way different, the effect should be the same as with siege tanks. | ||
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Imalengrat
Australia365 Posts
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XenoX101
Australia729 Posts
Patch Notes: 0.86 - Roach and thor now affected by blinding cloud - Tempest ground damage now 35, now called "Eradicator beam" - Viper now has appropriate icons - Battle hellions are now armored and not light - Remove strike cannon from factory - Undeployed shredder death animation fixed - Returned adrenal glands - Control clicking shredders no longer selects siege tanks, selects shredders - Entomb slightly reworked | ||
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On November 01 2011 18:36 XenoX101 wrote: - Battle hellions are now armored and not light Ya sure? In this video they seem to last vs siege tank fire quite good, to be an armored unit :/ Kim even said they transformed to withstand siege tank fire better to gain more heath. Would be stupid if it was nullifed for being armored and taking bonus dmg from them if it was the case. | ||
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