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[M] (2) Crux GSL Bel'Shir Beach Winter Rework

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LS
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-16 18:08:11
October 16 2011 16:16 GMT
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Created by LSPrime
Suggest players 2
Playable 120 x 128
Published KR (GSL2012 - 벨시르 해안 W)

http://teamcrux.tistory.com/

*Test version now
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(2)Bel'shir Beach Winter Rework
Suggest players 2
Playable 120 x 128
Published KR NA EU SEA

Created by LSPrime

http://teamcrux.tistory.com/

Original Bel'Shir Beach

for next GSL

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looks whiteness?
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Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
October 16 2011 16:22 GMT
#2
Will it replace bel'shir beach?

Please use another name because belshir beach is already known in tournaments and it's not a beach anymore, you know
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dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
October 16 2011 16:23 GMT
#3
When air flies over the areas you lowered the amount that kinda much - their movement might look pretty dumb.
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monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2404 Posts
October 16 2011 16:28 GMT
#4
Nice remake! I'm concerned that the third is too hard to take for Protoss right now though. I think just choking it slightly would really help Zerg.

Also a small bridge through the middle would really help map flow and harassment in my opinion, and it would reduce the base races (because of split pathing).

Like this:

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I dislike the location of the expansion against the main, because it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I can't imagine it ever really being taken instead of the third in the corner since it is much more open and close to the opponent's natural. Once each player has five bases though, it is practically impossible to take since it is so close to the opponent's base.

This is what I mean:

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I might actually redesign the side expansions so there are only 10 expos on the map. Maybe a gold expansion to encourage splitting the map in different directions?

Here's an idea (might not be a good idea):

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chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
October 16 2011 17:20 GMT
#5
I'm all for winter maps, but why would you remake the most beautiful map of all time? ._.
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Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 17:36:20
October 16 2011 17:36 GMT
#6
On October 17 2011 02:20 chocopaw wrote:
I'm all for winter maps, but why would you remake the most beautiful map of all time? ._.

On low graphics (like many pros use) you can't see through the water so you can't see the edge of creep, etc. It's pretty but isn't very playable all in all.
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prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
October 16 2011 17:39 GMT
#7
On October 17 2011 02:20 chocopaw wrote:
I'm all for winter maps, but why would you remake the most beautiful map of all time? ._.

Because it's winter! :D
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
October 16 2011 17:43 GMT
#8
I wish Blizz put more of your maps on ladder. I hate Ladder maps T_T.
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
October 16 2011 18:15 GMT
#9
I actually like the winter setting!
Airestyx
Profile Joined October 2011
United States44 Posts
October 16 2011 19:02 GMT
#10
Looks awesome can't wait to either try it out or to have it seen in GSL.
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IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
October 16 2011 19:20 GMT
#11
I don't like monitor's suggestion with repositioning the bases. It reminds me of my map, TPW Ohana where there is a base near the main, but it is in such a position that neither player is more prone to taking that base. It becomes a "nobody wants that" type of a base. I would leave the middle bases the same.
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
October 16 2011 19:40 GMT
#12
Analyzer images ?
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eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
October 16 2011 20:10 GMT
#13
On October 17 2011 02:43 GinDo wrote:
I wish Blizz put more of your maps on ladder. I hate Ladder maps T_T.


Yeah I totally second this! I really wish blizzard would take active roles in teaming up with a professional mapping team like Crux, TPW, Iccup, etc.

As for the map, I really like how winter maps look, and it will be neat to see this showcased in an upcoming GSL. Goodjob!
monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2404 Posts
October 16 2011 20:58 GMT
#14
On October 17 2011 04:20 IronManSC wrote:
I don't like monitor's suggestion with repositioning the bases. It reminds me of my map, TPW Ohana where there is a base near the main, but it is in such a position that neither player is more prone to taking that base. It becomes a "nobody wants that" type of a base. I would leave the middle bases the same.


There are already 2 bases that are "nobody wants that" on this map, even without my change. I think these golds are more viable for both players, but you are right that they could be just as bad as before. I'm sure the expansions will play out fine, but I dislike the one against the main since it isn't very viable as a 3rd or 6th.
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Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
October 16 2011 21:40 GMT
#15
just a short question: where do u get those snowtrees from?
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LS
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)145 Posts
October 16 2011 21:44 GMT
#16
On October 17 2011 06:40 Mereel wrote:
just a short question: where do u get those snowtrees from?

I got in sc2mapster - wow model
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Split.
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland234 Posts
October 16 2011 22:27 GMT
#17
On October 17 2011 05:10 eXigent. wrote:
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On October 17 2011 02:43 GinDo wrote:
I wish Blizz put more of your maps on ladder. I hate Ladder maps T_T.


Yeah I totally second this! I really wish blizzard would take active roles in teaming up with a professional mapping team like Crux, TPW, Iccup, etc.

As for the map, I really like how winter maps look, and it will be neat to see this showcased in an upcoming GSL. Goodjob!

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PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
October 16 2011 22:46 GMT
#18
Instead of having solid ground, why not change the shallow water from the original into FROZEN shallow water?

Also, penguins.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10151 Posts
October 17 2011 00:32 GMT
#19
wow very nice remake. looks pretty
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Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
October 17 2011 00:37 GMT
#20
Nice!

May I ask what your reasoning is about the removal of the gold expansions?
Snake_Doc
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia98 Posts
October 17 2011 02:36 GMT
#21
Nice work keep it up LS prime, I hope blizzard puts more Maps from creators like you and other iccup and GSL / MLG maps in ladder for 1v1.

cheers
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Matkap
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain627 Posts
October 27 2011 17:24 GMT
#22
On October 17 2011 07:46 Ooshmagoosh wrote:
Instead of having solid ground, why not change the shallow water from the original into FROZEN shallow water?

Also, penguins.


I agree on that, it would look very cool....

winter is coming!
A man tells his stories so many times that he becomes the stories. They live on after him, and in that way he becomes immortal.
Bd.Snake
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia163 Posts
October 27 2011 18:15 GMT
#23
Bel'Shir Glacier
Well see the thing of it is you know theres alot of ugly people out there walking around but they dont know there ugly because nobody actually tells them
Kaxon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States117 Posts
October 27 2011 18:21 GMT
#24
Sorry, but I really, really dislike this change. Bel'shir Beach was the nicest looking map in the GSL; now it just looks dark. This map should at least have a different name.
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Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
October 27 2011 18:31 GMT
#25
Would be cool if there were four versions of the map, one for each season.
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Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
October 27 2011 18:33 GMT
#26
On October 28 2011 03:31 Gfire wrote:
Would be cool if there were four versions of the map, one for each season.


Please no O_O Imo this map is pretty shitty and I hope it will be removed asap instead of being played for another year...
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Minored
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil88 Posts
October 27 2011 18:37 GMT
#27
hmm, i don't really like the change of the look.
now it just looks like a generic map, looks great as a map though.
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Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
October 27 2011 19:03 GMT
#28
On October 28 2011 02:24 Matkap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 07:46 Ooshmagoosh wrote:
Instead of having solid ground, why not change the shallow water from the original into FROZEN shallow water?

Also, penguins.


I agree on that, it would look very cool....

winter is coming!


Or even better... how cool would it be if units actually are 1/4 buried in snow?
Moochlol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States456 Posts
October 27 2011 19:17 GMT
#29
Anyone know if this is uploaded to NA for play? Id really like to try it out.
blaaaaaarghhhhh
Treble557
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
October 27 2011 19:49 GMT
#30
This is officially the coolest looking map ever, imo. It's the kinda map I've been dying to get to play on in SC2, with the dark winter forest tile set that I LOVED from SCBW.

Where can we find this map to play it in our custom games?????
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
October 27 2011 20:16 GMT
#31
I don't want to completely write it off, but I hope it's available in NA, I would like to play it just to get a feel for it first. While I do like Snow type maps more than others. Bel'Shir was my favorite in terms of looks in regards to competitive play. This map as a snow version of Bel'Shir looks much less appealing than the original.
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Treble557
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
October 27 2011 20:19 GMT
#32
I'm pokin around atm on NA server and all I can find is the beach version. :<

I was so excited too..
SpecFire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1681 Posts
October 27 2011 20:40 GMT
#33
plz upload to NA!
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Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
October 27 2011 21:34 GMT
#34
Looks very nice, although I still dislike the removal of the high ground in the main. Looks good so far, but you really need to add some tress with Christmas decorations, reindeer, and snowmen doodads. Maybe even a flying santa claus model? Also, can we get some higher res pictures please?
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GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
October 28 2011 01:52 GMT
#35
Beautiful map aesthetics. Can't wait to see this winter them in the upcoming November GSL! Hopefully this will be uploaded on NA/AM soon. Keep up the good work LSPrime!
gongshow41
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)49 Posts
October 28 2011 06:19 GMT
#36
On October 17 2011 09:37 Antares777 wrote:
Nice!

May I ask what your reasoning is about the removal of the gold expansions?



All GSL Nov. maps have removed gold minerals
fenix404
Profile Joined May 2011
United States305 Posts
October 28 2011 07:15 GMT
#37
can we get someone to put those crux maps on NA servers? they are sooo cool. the artwork is also very impressive. keep it up!
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 28 2011 08:09 GMT
#38
I hope there are polar bears and penguins.

Imagine Artosis and Tasteless.
I had a good night of sleep.
Earawen
Profile Joined February 2011
France51 Posts
October 28 2011 12:57 GMT
#39
oh my god this new bel'shir map is beautifull ! Cant wait to see it with some pros in there battling out.
GucciMane
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada12 Posts
October 28 2011 17:41 GMT
#40
Bel'shir Beach! BURR! SO ICEY!
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Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
October 28 2011 17:55 GMT
#41
looks very beautiful. i like that they change the season of a map for the season of the year, kinda cute, not sure how it will play out balance wise but looks fine from first glance, hope we see some great games on it in november!
petrie911
Profile Joined October 2011
21 Posts
October 28 2011 21:41 GMT
#42
I like the new aesthetic, but it doesn't really fit with the name. It looks much more like a mountain pass than a beach.

Also, I'll be sad to see the old Bel'Shir Beach go. That map had such a unique look to it.
LS
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)145 Posts
October 29 2011 01:41 GMT
#43
Upload complete at NA EU SEA
Check this link, and Have fun
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=280274
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Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 06:43:58
October 30 2011 06:43 GMT
#44
On October 29 2011 06:41 petrie911 wrote:
I like the new aesthetic, but it doesn't really fit with the name. It looks much more like a mountain pass than a beach.

Also, I'll be sad to see the old Bel'Shir Beach go. That map had such a unique look to it.

Bel'Shir Pass, I like the ring of that name

On October 29 2011 10:41 LSPrime wrote:
Upload complete at NA EU SEA
Check this link, and Have fun
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=280274

Yea, thank you so much!
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
jjd323
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom17 Posts
November 18 2011 14:33 GMT
#45
You guys really can't have ever been to a beach in Scotland. Beach != auto-sunshine.
LS
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)145 Posts
December 16 2011 18:07 GMT
#46
Rework again for GSL2012.
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FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
December 16 2011 18:21 GMT
#47
Why do you and GSL hate PvP?
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Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
December 16 2011 18:25 GMT
#48
ah now i can finally like it^^
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Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
December 16 2011 19:54 GMT
#49
Looks good. Looks a fair amount like the snow stuff in HotS. Although I am still wanting a spring and fall version.
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