EPTOn November 10 2011 14:58 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
I'd wait another day or so with that^^
I'd wait another day or so with that^^
lol, wasn't going to do it now, my timezone and work schedule would not agree with that decision.
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HypertonicHydroponic
437 Posts
lol, wasn't going to do it now, my timezone and work schedule would not agree with that decision. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 10 2011 14:32 Barrin wrote: Indeed that is valuable information. I think Plexa said they wont do that though; people will post their submissions if they want them to be seen. I don't want to upload submissions for two reasons - intensifies any "XXX map" should have won comments - I don't want to upload maps without permission, some authors may want to keep their entries secret for whatever reason If I planned to showcase the maps I would have needed a "TL will post all submissions" statement somewhere in this post. | ||
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 10 2011 15:15 IronManSC wrote: Plexa I have a question. If he winning map will be chosen by mere votes after the tournament, isn't it kind of obvious that haven's lagoon already won? I don't think people watching the open tournament is going to change their mind when they've already been indicated that the play testers liked it best. I disagree. I plan to get some comments from any notable participants including the four players who make it to the semifinals. They'll be put into a post and people can vote after that. Plus there is the staff vote as well which might change things. And I definitely wouldn't say play testers liked it best, I merely emphasized the point on that map because I knew some people would be a bit upset by it being chosen. | ||
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On November 10 2011 15:23 Plexa wrote: I plan to get some comments from any notable participants including the four players who make it to the semifinals. I find it silly that you value someones opinion on how good a map is, because they are good at playing starcraft2. | ||
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Samro225am
Germany982 Posts
On November 10 2011 15:54 Sea_Food wrote: I find it silly that you value someones opinion on how good a map is, because they are good at playing starcraft2. let's ask someone who is goof in counterstrike! seriously, who's opinion would you value when it comes to maps? casters? random chosen average joe? popular vote? mapmakers? | ||
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On November 10 2011 17:28 Samro225am wrote: let's ask someone who is goof in counterstrike! seriously, who's opinion would you value when it comes to maps? casters? random chosen average joe? popular vote? mapmakers? map makers | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Essentially, every map maker of note entered the contest. How can they judge a contest which has their own entry in it. | ||
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On November 10 2011 19:08 Plexa wrote: Essentially, every map maker of note entered the contest. How can they judge a contest which has their own entry in it. Judgin own map unbiased is almost impossible I agree, but I dont find any reason why a map maker could not judge every other map in the competion, even if he has hes own maps in the same pool. | ||
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Samro225am
Germany982 Posts
On November 10 2011 19:12 Sea_Food wrote: Judgin own map unbiased is almost impossible I agree, but I dont find any reason why a map maker could not judge every other map in the competion, even if he has hes own maps in the same pool. i have the impression map makers tend to emphasize technical aspects, balance and aesthetics and as we are a small elitest group - yes we are cause there are so few map makers in comparison to players - we have made a meta-mapmaking so to speak, what to do and what not to do. lots of good ideas do not get through in this forums possibly, because the map is flawed in many other spots. so having mapmakers discussing maps is like designers talk about transportations design/cars. it might be more intelligent to let the marketing experts have a voice and the consumers. | ||
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On November 10 2011 19:17 Samro225am wrote: i have the impression map makers tend to emphasize technical aspects, balance and aesthetics and as we are a small elitest group - yes we are cause there are so few map makers in comparison to players - we have made a meta-mapmaking so to speak, what to do and what not to do. lots of good ideas do not get through in this forums possibly, because the map is flawed in many other spots. so having mapmakers discussing maps is like designers talk about transportations design/cars. it might be more intelligent to let the marketing experts have a voice and the consumers. There is a reason why when 99% of the products of the world were desinged, the desingers did not ask consumers directly what they want, but instead decided themselfs what is the best for them. I see pro gamers only experts of maps they have played +150 games on personally. | ||
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Samro225am
Germany982 Posts
if you do not understand this... edit: btw: "have a voice" is not the same like decide | ||
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On November 10 2011 19:28 Samro225am wrote: blizzard has no need for very complex and too large maps in the mappool. if you do not understand this... This is why I think most of the maps in the final 7 are way too complex myself. edit: btw: "have a voice" is not the same like decide I understand that, and that is why I never said or never ment to say anything like that. | ||
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