EPTabsolutely one of the best (if not THE best?!) of your maps so far!
would love to see it on the EU server as soon as possible :X
[Map] (4) Enigma by prodiG - Page 2
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Ohdamn
Germany765 Posts
absolutely one of the best (if not THE best?!) of your maps so far! would love to see it on the EU server as soon as possible :X | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
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funcmode
Australia720 Posts
First, they have much quicker and more practical access to their opponents destructible rocks, and air units can move straight into their opponents main uncontested. By contrast, for the anti-clockwise player, in order to harass the opponents destructible entrance their units must travel a lot further, and if they make air units, they either have to fly straight over the players natural or take a much longer route to the opponents main. I'm also unsure about the middle. Because it's so tight around the gold expo, players at cross-positions are almost forced to use the outside paths to efficiently move about the map. To me the entire middle section seems to just get in the way more than it should. And yeah, I think having a 12-patch, 4 gas expo is a bit retarded regardless of where it's located, given how easily Terran can protect their expansions in comparison to the other races. In other words, planetary fortress a bit imbalanced here, no? | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19208 Posts
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tofutv Specifically: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9404098 and http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9404799 | ||
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andeh
United States904 Posts
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Nivoh
Norway259 Posts
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prodiG
Canada2016 Posts
On September 10 2010 02:26 tofucake wrote: If you want to see a couple VODs of some early testing of Enigma, check out my ustream. You'll be able to see the pathing issue with the hi yields and how some TvP plays out. You also get to see me kick prodiG's ass. Do note that these are pre-texturing, so it's pretty bland. I also say "so here we go" a bunch before I jump in Mumble. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tofutv Specifically: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9404098 and http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9404799 GOD DAMN BC RUSH SO STACKED here i am thinking "oh yeah, i'll just chrono some stalkers and get pylon blocked a hundred times and i'll be okay" t.t Thanks for the feedback everyone On September 09 2010 18:52 danson wrote: which set of five? links plox? http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=149229 Sketches are there~ | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule19208 Posts
On September 10 2010 01:22 funcmode wrote: I'm a bit skeptical when it comes to the rotational symmetry. One would assume that if two players spawn next to each other, the player on the clockwise side has an advantage for a number of reasons. First, they have much quicker and more practical access to their opponents destructible rocks, and air units can move straight into their opponents main uncontested. By contrast, for the anti-clockwise player, in order to harass the opponents destructible entrance their units must travel a lot further, and if they make air units, they either have to fly straight over the players natural or take a much longer route to the opponents main. I'm also unsure about the middle. Because it's so tight around the gold expo, players at cross-positions are almost forced to use the outside paths to efficiently move about the map. To me the entire middle section seems to just get in the way more than it should. And yeah, I think having a 12-patch, 4 gas expo is a bit retarded regardless of where it's located, given how easily Terran can protect their expansions in comparison to the other races. In other words, planetary fortress a bit imbalanced here, no? Honestly, we never got that far into the game (because prodiG sucks  ) to test that out, but...build 1 air unit? | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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Antares777
United States1971 Posts
I <3 this map. I like the positions of the thirds, very creative thinking putting them there, in front of the naturals. IMHO if you are going to have each base have fourths as well, a high-yield center is not needed at all. 16 bases is plenty, if not already too many. | ||
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funcmode
Australia720 Posts
On September 10 2010 05:52 tofucake wrote: Honestly, we never got that far into the game (because prodiG sucks ) to test that out, but...build 1 air unit?I call your 1 air unit, and I raise you... two missile turrets. Seriously though, I've seen countless games where attacking and failing to destroy a planetary fortress turns out to be the turning point in a game (and that's just a normal mineral base). I'm not saying planetary fortresses are impossible to destroy, or even necessarily overpowered - however, Terran without a doubt are the strongest race when it comes to defending a single expansion, so making a map with a single super-powerful expansion could well be quite imbalanced for this very reason. Especially given the relatively tight entrances to the expo and the fact that the base would be surrounded on all sides by mineral patches and geysers making attacking it harder in the first place. I think it would be wise to revise the design. | ||
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BoomStevo
United States332 Posts
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prodiG
Canada2016 Posts
On September 10 2010 06:29 Antares777 wrote: I was wondering when you were going to make your next map, it's like you vanished for a week from the forums or something. I <3 this map. I like the positions of the thirds, very creative thinking putting them there, in front of the naturals. IMHO if you are going to have each base have fourths as well, a high-yield center is not needed at all. 16 bases is plenty, if not already too many. I took a break from mapmaking to play races that weren't Terran so I could improve my design and mapmaking skill. As far as the center is concerned, I'm going to leave it until I see some high-level play really abusing it. I may consider dropping it from 750 minerals/patch to 500, but we'll see. | ||
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No0n
United States355 Posts
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Antares777
United States1971 Posts
On September 10 2010 01:21 setzer wrote: This map is seriously wicked. Very BW esque, which is what I love. Continue up the hard work and I hope (if) Blizzard incorporates user made maps into the ladder they take a hard look at yours. I hope they do too :D | ||
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kickinhead
Switzerland2069 Posts
I want it in the ladder-mappool NOW! maybe make the entrance to the main a little smaller?... For Z, It's really not as safe as the one on, let's say LT (if it wasn't for the cliff), cuz it's kinda hard to def with spine crawlers... | ||
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prodiG
Canada2016 Posts
On September 10 2010 13:44 kickinhead wrote: wooow - I love this Map! I want it in the ladder-mappool NOW! maybe make the entrance to the main a little smaller?... For Z, It's really not as safe as the one on, let's say LT (if it wasn't for the cliff), cuz it's kinda hard to def with spine crawlers... the ramp is the same size as the blizz maps o_o it looks bigger because that cliff's ramp has a large bezel on the sides ^^ | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Merikh
United States918 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10710 Posts
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