Is there a way to lower all the land on a map equally? I started it out a little to high for water to work.

Also, is there a way to use triggers to raise supply depots? And does it matter whether or not it is currently lowered?

OtherWorld

France17333 Posts

December 23 2014 17:18 GMT

#2925

I don't think you can lower the land, however you can change the height of the water easily. I have no idea about your second question, but I think it is possible, since raising the depot is an ability that the player can use.

javascripter

14 Posts

December 23 2014 17:19 GMT

#2926

Yes, but water on raises to a max of 48 height or something like that, and my lowered cliff areas are above that. Which was somewhat of a mistake.

javascripter

14 Posts

December 23 2014 18:59 GMT

#2927

Also, using a trigger with two events that will trigger it, how do I set it up so that I can later do something differently depending on which one happened? (increment a variable if one happens and decrements a variable if another happens?)

And does setting a variable equal to "+" increment it?

EDIT: It doesn't, how do you increment/decrement a variable?

turtles

Australia360 Posts

December 23 2014 23:07 GMT

#2928

is there a way to use triggers to raise supply depots?

Go into the data editor and look at supply depots in the units tab (or lowered supply depots if they are a seperate unit). It will have a section called abilities on of which will be for lowering/raising. In the triggers section you want "issue unit order" trigger. Select the order and chose "order with no target" and select the ability.

Some abilities do different things based on which parameter you give them for example 0 might be raise and 1 might be lower. So you might have to use another trigger to select which one. I think it's something like "ability command for ability" in the trigger editor. I don't have it in front of me so I can't give you specifics. Hopefully I gave enough info to give you a lead though.

If you are not familliar with programming then I recomend that you find a beginners tutorial about functions, triggers, different variable types etc. It will teach you what you need to know.

If you are familliar with programming then you need two seperate triggers calling a function (the editor calls functions with no return type "action defenitions") with different parameters based on which trigger fired.

how do you increment/decrement a variable?

Doing basic maths:

Say you have a variable x which is an integer.

use the function "set variable" and set the variable to x. As for the right hand side of the equation click it and go to functions and look into the math section or just type in the search field. Search for one called something like "arithmatic (integer)" or somethjing like that. set the two fields as x and 1.

It will end up looking like "x = x + 1"

Short cut for modifying a variable

There is a function called "modify variable (int)" which is a shortcut for the above if you only want to increment/decrement/other a variable.

javascripter

14 Posts

December 24 2014 01:46 GMT

#2929

Sweet. It turned out "issue order" works for activating abilities. And I found the bit for math you were talking about.

I do know programming. How do I call the action definition (I find calling them definitions strange though) from the trigger?
(Also, I haven't heard of "trigger" in programming. Is it kinda like an event or interrupt? (I think those are fairly similar?))

turtles

Australia360 Posts

December 24 2014 02:18 GMT

#2930

I do know programming.

I should have just looked at your name

I haven't heard of "trigger" in programming. Is it kinda like an event or interrupt? (I think those are fairly similar?))

To me a trigger is a function which gets called when it's event happens. An event is something like "unit dies", so every time a unit dies SC2 will call that function. But I've heard others refer to EVERYTHING in the trigger editor as a trigger so I'm not sure what the proper term to use is. But yes, to my understanding it's exactly like an event or interupt.

How do I call the action definition

I'm assuming you're using the GUI. (there are ways you can write the script by hand in a text editor and import it, maybe that would feel more natural to you but I think the GUI is quite good)

Bottom left is a list of all the functions/triggers/action definitions. You can right click and it will come down with a menu. One of them is "create action definition". It's silly when an "action definition" is just a regular function which returns NULL but for some reason Blizzard decided they had to give it a different name to confuse people.

click on the newly created action definition and you will see sections for parameters, variables, and actions. Right click the parameters and click "new parameter" and chose what variable type the parameters will be.

Once your action definition is set up go to the trigger and create new action. The action definition should be there in the list of possible actions. You can set the parameters to call it with.

javascripter

14 Posts

December 24 2014 02:30 GMT

#2931

The GUI isn't amazing, but it also isn't horrible, and it is Way better than labview, Which I have had to do before.
If I could convert the stuff from the GUI to code and back on the Fly, I might do that, but I'M lazy and don't like to learn whole New languages. (especially the stuff I'M asking about Here)

I didn't even think of looking for the name of the function.

How do I set up something to log the current value of int variables? That would be helpful for debugging.

Ej_

47656 Posts

December 28 2014 19:56 GMT

#2932

im making a 4p rotational map and the symmetry tool is fucking up some things, most notably mineral lines. Is that to be expected? Do I just have to place the resources manually?

TheFish7

United States2824 Posts

December 28 2014 23:46 GMT

#2933

You want to use a 90 degree top-down camera view when using the symmetry tool

turtles

Australia360 Posts

December 29 2014 03:22 GMT

#2934

How do I set up something to log the current value of int variables? That would be helpful for debugging.

There is a debugger you can use though I don't like it much. Look under file->preferences or something and you have to start the game in windowed mode.

I've created my own debbugging tools library which I use sometimes but no matter what approach I take there are downsides to it. I'm yet to find a good way to log actions for later debugging.

sleightofderppro

United States1 Post

January 06 2015 20:18 GMT

#2935

Where are the Terran Vehicle and Ship Weapons/Plating upgrade in the editor? Like the HotS upgrades where both are together. Only the WoL upgrades show up in the search/armory and I've quadruple checked to make sure I'm on the HotS editor, and I can't find it. Here is my search page, as you can see I made a new mod just to be sure it's on HotS

OtherWorld

France17333 Posts

January 08 2015 14:45 GMT

#2936

Ok so I wanted to make a map or two during this week of free time I have, but my editor has an unexpected bug. Here's what happens : I can place units, doodads, regions, etc, but once they are placed I can't select them (to move them for example). Example : I place a gas geyser, then press space to switch in selection mode, my cursor gains a 'S' near it, but when clicking or boxing the geyser nothing happens, just like if I was boxing an empty area.