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turtles
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia360 Posts
January 25 2014 02:06 GMT
#2541
99% of maps will have been designed with racial balance in mind. It is not likely you will find many already existing maps that are designed for a mod that doesn't even exist yet.


There are some maps with wide ramps (see Blizzards scrap station) and even a map with a low ground main and a ramp up to a well protected nat to encourage fast expands. But these maps were created with regular SC2 in mind.


If you are interested in creating a mod then I would recomend looking into how to make the mod first. Making a few rough maps to test it out on will be the easiest part of the job.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
January 25 2014 02:23 GMT
#2542
I know how to make mods well enough; and I can figure out the balance well enough with some work, the real hard part is getting people to playtest. Ty for reminding me of scrap station and i'll try to find that other map as well.
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Jensbond
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden54 Posts
January 25 2014 09:03 GMT
#2543
Other players cant play my map, and the map dosent show up in the Match History either.

Any way to fix this?

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enord
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France258 Posts
January 25 2014 09:14 GMT
#2544
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 25 2014 18:03 Jensbond wrote:
Other players cant play my map, and the map dosent show up in the Match History either.

Any way to fix this?

[image loading]

abundance of info...
i would say that the hooded horseman is en route.. but i'm not sure that would take the pickle out of the croissant
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Jensbond
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden54 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 11:35:16
January 25 2014 11:03 GMT
#2545
On January 25 2014 18:14 enord wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 25 2014 18:03 Jensbond wrote:
Other players cant play my map, and the map dosent show up in the Match History either.

Any way to fix this?

[image loading]

abundance of info...
i would say that the hooded horseman is en route.. but i'm not sure that would take the pickle out of the croissant

Ok so ive published maps before and it has worked fine. Now when i published it, it whouldent work in the same way.

I can play it
I can invite others to play on my map.

I cant search for it.
It dosent show up in open games even though it says ive opened up the game to public.
Other players can check the map info, even bookmark it, but not start it without me (the creator)

Just ask questions if you have an abundance of info.
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enord
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France258 Posts
January 25 2014 13:31 GMT
#2546
did you publish it as public?
make / have a good tl .. ohhh and i want my icon back :°D
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
January 25 2014 13:57 GMT
#2547
Oh, wanted to ask some map makers something about design of certain areas:
Do you think that adding destructible rocks to openish areas will make them more "viable"? I will give an example with a map that I personaly dont enjoy too much: Star Station LE - does adding a destructible rocks in the middle of the open area infront of the natural, to the left of the 3rd so its making this 3 corridor area istead of a large wide open place will help the map? I think it will give this early game security while late game it will not change much because you can just kill them.
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
Jensbond
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden54 Posts
January 25 2014 14:45 GMT
#2548
On January 25 2014 22:31 enord wrote:
did you publish it as public?

Thanks that worked, also got another question...

The map version that was private, it allowed me to be Observer and Referee on the map.
On the other hand the public one didint allow me to be Observer and Referee.

How come?
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
January 25 2014 17:54 GMT
#2549
I had an idea for a map feature: sanctuaries. A place on the map where you are not allowed to be attacked or to attack from. I wonder if it would be broken because terrans would fly over buildings and cause stalemates, but nevertheless, it seems like a fun idea to me.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
enord
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France258 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 16:57:09
January 26 2014 16:06 GMT
#2550
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 25 2014 23:45 Jensbond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 22:31 enord wrote:
did you publish it as public?

Thanks that worked, also got another question...

The map version that was private, it allowed me to be Observer and Referee on the map.
On the other hand the public one didint allow me to be Observer and Referee.

How come?


i suppose that by default the editor gives different parameters as far as what it allows on public maps, ...in this case your mod allows for features that vary greatly from the "norm", so blizz might have a feature that foregoes these

i would go ask people who have succesfully done "obs" and such features how they circumvented it (here or on mapster)

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On January 26 2014 02:54 Grumbels wrote:
I had an idea for a map feature: sanctuaries. A place on the map where you are not allowed to be attacked or to attack from. I wonder if it would be broken because terrans would fly over buildings and cause stalemates, but nevertheless, it seems like a fun idea to me.

sounds like a good idea, although as you mentionned, highly unpractical in a competitive context
triggers will do this, no problem, but triggers meant to avoid people "cheating" with it seems like a lot of work
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velhavirgem
Profile Joined February 2014
Ukraine1 Post
February 07 2014 17:07 GMT
#2551
So I have just downloaded starcraft 2 arcade and I don't see any crazy maps with different models like in warcraft 3 is it because the editor is bad or what? I really wanted to play a Dragonball map, something like spongebob ninja slide or some anime DotA. pls halp
herp derp
turtles
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia360 Posts
February 08 2014 02:50 GMT
#2552
Blizzard only just released the art tools they use to put models in the game. That was only about a month or so ago. AFAIK previously it was possible but a pain in the backside.

There are a few games which have custom models but I expect more of them will be apearing in the future.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
February 08 2014 03:45 GMT
#2553
Yes, just wait, you will begin to see more custom games in the future. Up until now it was really only practical to import WoW and WC3 models into SC2. But the floodgates have opened since the release of the art tools in the last few days, we just need willing participants (aka 3DS max users)
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Harreh
Profile Joined September 2013
90 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 11:44:12
February 08 2014 11:41 GMT
#2554
I would like to make a an extension mod which forces it to be 1player, removing the loss requirements etc. The intention is users use this mod on standard melee maps.
how do I do this?
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
February 08 2014 16:29 GMT
#2555
You're saying you want a mod where the game doesn't end when there is only one player right?

Open Modules-> Triggers, find Melee Initialization, delete the line that says "Melee - Set default melee options for all players"

As for forcing 1 player, I think this is controlled by the map itself, but you can change player data under Map -> Player Properties
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Harreh
Profile Joined September 2013
90 Posts
February 08 2014 19:43 GMT
#2556
Yeah that's what I'm looking for, however I'm not sure I follow your instructions. It's not actually possible to delete that option it seems.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 09 2014 02:59 GMT
#2557
Apologies if this has been asked already, but how do I put down collapsible rocks? I can't see them when I try to put down the rock towers.
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Harreh
Profile Joined September 2013
90 Posts
February 09 2014 13:02 GMT
#2558
Units, search for 'rock tower' then add it. If it doesn't appear, then do Data, Units tab, search 'rock tower', right click, view selection, view in palette.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 17:18:30
February 09 2014 16:28 GMT
#2559
On February 09 2014 04:43 Harreh wrote:
Yeah that's what I'm looking for, however I'm not sure I follow your instructions. It's not actually possible to delete that option it seems.


edit - nevermind, it appears when you copy the trigger over into an extension mod the original initialization trigger persists anyway.
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Harreh
Profile Joined September 2013
90 Posts
February 11 2014 16:34 GMT
#2560
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Anyone know what this asset is called? I'm trying to use it as a background image for a button if possible
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