On April 22 2008 15:17 Dinosaur wrote:
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IntoTheWow
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On April 22 2008 15:17 Dinosaur wrote: meep ... meep HAHAHAAHAHHA i was not expecting this hahahahah thank you | ||
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IntoTheWow
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On April 21 2008 22:21 3D.TemujiN wrote: Smuft has just resetted his account ;/ | ||
jimminy_kriket
Canada5465 Posts
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Jusciax
Lithuania588 Posts
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IntoTheWow
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On April 22 2008 15:35 jimminy_kriket wrote: what place was he in? He was 46 like 1 day before ladder closing or so. But it's hard what place he would end because people played a lot towards the end. Also: On April 21 2008 22:30 Hot_Bid wrote: yeah his last few games he went 0-2 vs Notforu, 0-2 vs Kr, 0-2 vs Lazur and probably decided he couldn't qualify | ||
SK.Testie
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On April 22 2008 15:40 MYM.Testie wrote: YOU CALL THIS SLEEPING ITW?!?! Addicted never sleep :D, gratz Nick and don´t try to be lazy | ||
0z
Luxembourg877 Posts
On April 22 2008 11:16 Kennigit wrote: <font size = "4">Top 48 Changes</font> G5 -> G5 played 3 games near the end of the ladder vs a second iccup account started by LzGaMeR where he won all 3 games (pvz, pvp, pvt). While this alone would not warrent a ban, G5 has come up on the TSL abuse radar far too often for one tournament and the evidence compounds so greatly that we cannot ignore it. This includes 2 disconnect complaints against him, 3 noted abuse games at the end of the ladder and some underhanded and deceitful complaint requests long after their play dates. TSL admins have done nothing by try to be fair in the situations that have arisen, especially with G5 but the evidence against him leaves us with little choice but for his removal from the top 48. So basically you ban him, because you don't like him - I neither care about him (i don't know who he is), not play the ladder myself, but this is clearly unprofessional. | ||
RowdierBob
Australia12622 Posts
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0z
Luxembourg877 Posts
On April 22 2008 15:54 RowdierBob wrote: No, it's not. G5 clearly abused and tried to get away with it. Getting a friend to play his off race vs you is akin to a free win. Maybe it takes a bit longer and looks more legit, but the outcome is still the same. Admins did the right thing here. On April 22 2008 11:16 Kennigit wrote: While this alone would not warrent a ban .... This latter quote here just means, that they are not banning him in accordance with any of the rules, but rather for some reason decided that a bunch of half-proofs is proof enough. To repeat myself - I don't care about the particular individuals involved, but this is people's court style. | ||
Shiv
France447 Posts
On April 22 2008 13:19 Superiorwolf wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2008 13:11 Hot_Bid wrote: On April 22 2008 13:09 G5 wrote: ??????????? You don't even ask for the reps you just see america vs america 3-0 and u ban me? To be quite honest I don't even care at this point. I think I would care more (actually I would be fucken furious) if it wouldn't mean Machine being kicked out since he is easily my best friend from sc or if the TL Admins didn't so strongly express how much they don't want me around for causing them to do some work. Not even asking for the replays and banning me is just proof of this. If any admins want the replays I will send them to be viewed but oops that would require another 15 minutes of work. But let me be very clear about this, LzGaMeR is my friend (hang me now! what a crime!) and the only reason I asked him to game was because all B guys were dodging me with only 30 minutes or w/e to go. He told me when I asked him that he would feel bad if he knocked me out (ret said this to me too when I played him 1 or 2 days ago, lets all say I abused and took a free win vs him also) and I told him all dodge me and I need to play. So he agree'd and we played. Maybe there was a silent notion of giving me wins and he didn't try as hard but we never arranged anything and the games were legit as far as I'm concerned. So don't even talk about banning Lz. Secondly - yes I made a mistake vs MIStrZZZ and I am sorry for that. Thirdly - and I am VERY sick of hearing this, so let me make this clear. I did not drop hack anyone and I did not intentionally disc vs anyone. And I am assuming the 2 disc complaints were 1. MIStrZZZ which we covered and 2. The kid who got me reset for nothing. Fourthly - I made the 2 complaints before the ladder ended and 1 after the ladder ended and the 1 which was accepted by HOTBID, KENNIGIT and a ICCup Admin was submitted before ladders end so I don't see why I am being held accountable for that either? So basically I got banned for 2 things which were already dealt with (which unfortunately caused you admins to do your jobs, oh my gosh lets get out the hammer now) then playing my friend 3 times. I will admit that there was a feeling (especially when he went T) that he wasn't going to be trying to hard and I did/do feel a little dirty about that but I tried hard and so did he in w/e race he played (T being his only off-race). It's like KeSPa saying "lets ban sAviOr for going off-race vs ChoJJa. Obviously a free win!". once again let me make this clear that there was no pre-game arrangement of him giving me free wins. Simply that we were playing cuss I couldn't get a game and I think he was happy to play B+. It's clear you guys don't like me so I will just go back to gaming outside of TSL and watch from the sidelines as I am now required to do so w/e. Just stop with the "We have been more than fair and accommodating to him" and "TSL admins have done nothing by try to be fair in the situations that have arisen". From what I hear you were going to ban me immediately when the drop hack accusations came up if it wern't for Artosis defending me and telling u to talk to me 1st. I guess there was no 1 to tell you guys this time that maybe you should look at the replays before jumping to the ban wagon. I guess thats 1 thing your good at though. And no need to say the good ol' "get lost" post because you simply don't care about me / spending time doing your "job". I am out of here, this was the worst ladder experience I have ever had. Yes a part of it was my fault but the others were simply having admins run the ladder who get a kick out of punishing / banning people and getting praise by mindless kids on a forum. What I learned in the MIStrZZZ case was that if you guys would actually spend as much time working on the individual problems in this ladder as you do trying to enhance reputation, do damage control and make fancy "look who we banned" posts to please the general audience, you guys would actually be good admins. Right now your just normal admins who handle situations with the attitude of "how will this affect us?" which isn't good. I won't look at this disgusting page again, so you are free to say w/e you want about what happened in our convo's and how "fairly" you treated me and not get called on it. Have fun. Once again, I would care more if it wasn't Machine taking my spot. So I will end this with a good ol 1 2 3 Bryce "Machine" Bates FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!! SHOW EM WHAT CALI'S GOT! C ya~ Savior offraced vs GoRush. Yeah I can't believe he got that wrong -_- And to G5, don't think that your whiny, bitchy post is going to get you anything here: pity, sympathy, or a place back in the top 48. All you've done is lose even more respect. Does anyone want to listen to a nerdy bad manner dick who doesn't know how to follow the rules? Insulting the TSL admins and teamliquid in general is just going to justify that you SHOULD be removed from the top 48. If you just calmed down, didn't act like a rude little bitch and at least appreciated the TSL admin's work and consideration you might get a bit more leniency. But so far you have proved that you are uncapable of being anything other than something that no one likes. Seriously. No one cares about your opinion, no one cares that you think this was the worst ladder experience you've ever had, and no one cares about YOU. I know I'm sucking up here, but I have to say, so many people appreciate what TSL and the people who have organized TSL have done that your bitching won't change anything. So, in your own words, "get lost". Hello and excuse me for being no one: I care. I do appreciate TSL but get your head around the fact that that doesn't make it godlike anyhow. This guy made a long explanative post as to why he thought he was "cheated" upon. He acknowledges his wrongs. The fact that the best answer a leading admin in this event can come up with is "Savior offraced vs GoRush" tells a lot, although the reasons stated in this thread justifying the ban seemed weak enough. (Your post on the other hand is filled with dick, bitch and ... dick. Good side is I'm sure I don't care about your opinion.) I believe admins are making this guy's point. This look like a simple "I just don't want to care about you and I don't like you". Very un-admin like. | ||
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IntoTheWow
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On April 22 2008 15:40 MYM.Testie wrote: YOU CALL THIS SLEEPING ITW?!?! Sleep = browsing tl for a while, then going to sleep. I though that was a given. (Don't check the time). | ||
Shiv
France447 Posts
On April 22 2008 16:23 Cesar2000 wrote: If you guys can read the first post, its made perfectly clear why he was banned. If you can read 0z' and mine, you'll notice that the thing we question is how legitimate (or weak) those clear reasons were. | ||
Legionnaire
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it's hard to tell what kind of shape you are in from your record. but seeing as how it seems like you didn't have to mass play, im guessing you're in at least decent shape? | ||
LxRogue
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Look at the replays; if they look fishy then maybe you have a case, but he certainly isn't the only person to get last minute wins. Even Legionnaire has wins against C players. If you had wanted to justify bans like this, you should have made some explicit rules about abuse at the start of the ladder stage, because right now, basically no one you have banned has broken the rules. | ||
Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
On April 22 2008 12:21 Hot_Bid wrote: It wasn't really a smurf because the second account wasn't registered in the TSL team. I agree, next time we will make a rule against playing with a separate, non-TSL account and interacting with the TSL ladder. But this time so many players were doing it that it'd be unfair and impossible to go back and try to fix all of it. I'm sure this would be really hard to do. Just a thought, why don't you start a possible TSL2 at the start of a iccup season? Would make things a lot easier. | ||
Xeln4g4
Italy1192 Posts
I strongly advise this limit to be set a 3 MAXIMUM x day vs same opponent! There are a milion kids to play with, outhere ... don't need to play your best friend 9 times and share points ... really this is not a good parameter. Do something | ||
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