EPTPower Rank 05/15/2009 - Page 36
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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Tyxiquale
Australia424 Posts
On June 04 2009 14:25 Dazed_Spy wrote: If anyone thinks Bisu played poorly against keke, simply read Nal_Ra's in depth explanation of the game, and realize you are simply wrong. Then, post here and apologize to Bisu. OR u can try and argue the fact that you know more about starcraft than Nal_Ra. Good luck. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On June 04 2009 14:42 Tyxiquale wrote: Edit: Maybe I'm confused here, but, Ra said Bisu played well, and I clearly agree...so? Am I misreading what your saying?OR u can try and argue the fact that you know more about starcraft than Nal_Ra. Good luck. | ||
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1361 Posts
On June 04 2009 14:50 Dazed_Spy wrote: Edit: Maybe I'm confused here, but, Ra said Bisu played well, and I clearly agree...so? Am I misreading what your saying? He is adding to what you are saying: eg: If anyone thinks Bisu played poorly against keke, simply read Nal_Ra's in depth explanation of the game, and realize you are simply wrong. Then, post here and apologize to Bisu, or u can try and argue the fact that you know more about starcraft than Nal_Ra. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Will be exiting to see how effert has developed since their last meet. | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 04 2009 17:31 Jaeden wrote: ohh come on, if JD didnt play in gom his record would be 5-0 , with no lose to a noname. Gom counts as a minus to him not as a plus, so stop that. Did you know that it makes NO difference at all whether you win a series 3-2 or 3-0. It just looks prettier and you might argue it's more dominant, but JD has always been losing the first games of a series. He's came back from behind to win most of the BOx wins he's had, if I recall correctly. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On June 04 2009 14:25 Dazed_Spy wrote: If anyone thinks Bisu played poorly against keke, simply read Nal_Ra's in depth explanation of the game, and realize you are simply wrong. Then, post here and apologize to Bisu. Nalra said Bisu initially reacted badly to the pool. | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On June 04 2009 20:10 Shikyo wrote: If Violet isn't on the PR, my head is going to explode. ^_^ Did you know that it makes NO difference at all whether you win a series 3-2 or 3-0. It just looks prettier and you might argue it's more dominant, but JD has always been losing the first games of a series. He's came back from behind to win most of the BOx wins he's had, if I recall correctly. thats exactly why people shouldnt say: "Bisu cant play in Gom" | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On June 04 2009 20:10 Shikyo wrote: of course it matters if you win 3-0 or 3-2, or 2-1 over 2-0. If you beat Bisu 3-2, then good job. If you 3-0 him, WOW. If you 2-1 against Jangbi, ok. If you 2-1 against jjonga, wtf?If Violet isn't on the PR, my head is going to explode. ^_^ Did you know that it makes NO difference at all whether you win a series 3-2 or 3-0. It just looks prettier and you might argue it's more dominant, but JD has always been losing the first games of a series. He's came back from behind to win most of the BOx wins he's had, if I recall correctly. Guess who went 2-1 againts jjonga...S class players should not be dropping those games. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On June 05 2009 12:22 Avidkeystamper wrote: Jaedong has a 65% recored zvp all time, against top players. Losing a single game against Jjonga, while just a month before losing two to Movie, is rather big. It is enough to split the decision between him and Bisu, simply because its an example of inconsistency. Barring of course, the potential for a Bisu vs Jaedong match in PL, which could easily settle any question on Jaedongs sometimes shaky-sometimes awesome zvp.That's why they have 100% win records, right? Let it go, Jaedong's play overall was so good that i don't see that dropping one game vs jjonga is going to affect his ranking. | ||
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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
On June 05 2009 11:16 Dazed_Spy wrote: of course it matters if you win 3-0 or 3-2, or 2-1 over 2-0. If you beat Bisu 3-2, then good job. If you 3-0 him, WOW. If you 2-1 against Jangbi, ok. If you 2-1 against jjonga, wtf? Guess who went 2-1 againts jjonga...S class players should not be dropping those games. Progaming has become very competative. Starcraft is not something you can stay dominant in every game, every time. It's become really hard to win everything, especially when there are so many gamers around. The fact that Jjonga got a spot in the tournament to play Jaedong says much about his skills. Just because you've never heard of this guy doesn't mean that he won't be a good p in the future. Every Bonjwa had to start as a no-name, so stop your whining | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On June 05 2009 12:46 Dazed_Spy wrote: Jaedong has a 65% recored zvp all time, against top players. Losing a single game against Jjonga, while just a month before losing two to Movie, is rather big. It is enough to split the decision between him and Bisu, simply because its an example of inconsistency. Barring of course, the potential for a Bisu vs Jaedong match in PL, which could easily settle any question on Jaedongs sometimes shaky-sometimes awesome zvp. The way I see it, Jaedong is barely ahead of Bisu, but still undeniably ahead as of right now. After SKT T1 vs Hwaseung Oz, whoever produces the best results should be #1, unless Bisu wins in a really bad game and Jaedong wins in a really good game (not likely, vs Hyuk). Also, if they face in ace, whoever wins will probably be #1. However, if they have the same results, then Jaedong's overall better play this month will secure the first position for him. Losing to one game to jjonga may be bad, but he's done a whole lot of stuff this month to make up for it. | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On June 05 2009 12:51 Avidkeystamper wrote: The way I see it, Jaedong is barely ahead of Bisu, but still undeniably ahead as of right now. After SKT T1 vs Hwaseung Oz, whoever produces the best results should be #1, unless Bisu wins in a really bad game and Jaedong wins in a really good game (not likely, vs Hyuk). Also, if they face in ace, whoever wins will probably be #1. However, if they have the same results, then Jaedong's overall better play this month will secure the first position for him. Losing to one game to jjonga may be bad, but he's done a whole lot of stuff this month to make up for it. Lol. Oz fanboys. I have to say bisu is ahead of jaedong in terms of proleague win because he has a higher win rate in the proleague than jaedong. I think right now jaedong has won one more game than bisu, but thats also because jaedong has lost more games. And a message to the skt fanboy, JWD, I know you don't like khan players that much or if you don't dislike them, you just don't find them impressive or something, but here are few changes in the pr i expect to c in the new pr. fantasy, Kespa and thezerg out of pr. Zero and skyhigh moving down in pr. Skyhigh and fantasy just isn't all that hot right now. Skyhigh beat some random players,but lost to most of the higher caliber players. Fantasy isn't all that hot right now either. Stork moving into the pr ahead of skyhigh and zero. Also maybe add jangbi into it for beating flash and humiliating piano. But the main changes i expect to c is fantasy, zero, skyhigh moving down. Kespa (no dq in a while) and thezerg moving out of the pr. And stork and violet coming into the pr. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
Erm, why are you ranking the top two players by their overall win ratio/ games won for the entire proleague season? That discounts a lot of important variables. | ||
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amanet
Croatia334 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On June 05 2009 13:28 Avidkeystamper wrote: I don't know if you've seen their games but Jaedong is on par or better than Bisu this month. You can quote stats, win loss ratio, and get in a rut over a game, but their overall performance this month is what determines the rankings. And by performance, I mean in game performance, not the TLPD page. Erm, why are you ranking the top two players by their overall win ratio/ games won for the entire proleague season? That discounts a lot of important variables. I agree with you, of course on how you determine your ranking, but what has Jaedong done better than Bisu? I think he's one par (they look effing unstoppable) but I'm not sure he's better. | ||
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