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On June 05 2009 15:53 Tyxiquale wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2009 15:35 Shikyo wrote:On June 05 2009 11:16 Dazed_Spy wrote:On June 04 2009 20:10 Shikyo wrote:If Violet isn't on the PR, my head is going to explode. ^_^ On June 04 2009 17:31 Jaeden wrote: ohh come on, if JD didnt play in gom his record would be 5-0 , with no lose to a noname. Gom counts as a minus to him not as a plus, so stop that. Did you know that it makes NO difference at all whether you win a series 3-2 or 3-0. It just looks prettier and you might argue it's more dominant, but JD has always been losing the first games of a series. He's came back from behind to win most of the BOx wins he's had, if I recall correctly. of course it matters if you win 3-0 or 3-2, or 2-1 over 2-0. If you beat Bisu 3-2, then good job. If you 3-0 him, WOW. If you 2-1 against Jangbi, ok. If you 2-1 against jjonga, wtf? Guess who went 2-1 againts jjonga...S class players should not be dropping those games. Of course, but if it's JD 2-1 vs some noobie, you can't really call it poor performance since it's JD. The result is completely the same. In the end it doesn't matter. At all. E: What I'm saying is, if JD goes 3-2 3-2 3-2, he still did better than if, say, Bisu did 3-0, 3-0, 2-3, even if JD lost a lot more games in total. In BoX's it really doesn't matter by how much you win, it only affects record and statistics, but 3-0 gets no extra benefit over 3-2. there is no benefit in terms of tournament progression... but for the purposes of the power rank where a single loss can tip you from 1st place to 3rd, it does. 3-0 shows u totally dominated ur opponent, whereas 3-2 shows that you just handled the pressure situation better at the end. Its like if federer wins a major without dropping a single set, people would say that he cruised through it, total rape.. but if the games went to 5 sets nearly every game, then its not as dominating. lol, that's a shitty example. NO, it's like Federer wins 6-0(all sets) in a single match, but losing the other one 3-2(sets), jeez!
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
I agree that 3-2 or 2-1 wins in a series can be a reason to demote someone in the PR. But you should be pretty sure that the player actually lost because of poor play.
We've seen Stork be really lazy, and we've seen Jaedong lose plenty of game 1's , only to come back and dominate. And cheese is cheese, and a well executed cheese is impossible to stop, by any player. So sometimes you can let a close series win slide.
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You know what's annoying? Advocating for a player and then being accused of being a fanboy. It's honestly the dumbest possible way to get your point across, or discredit the other person. Don't be stupid.
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I definitely think the end result is more important than the specifics. For example, luxury won an msl on 2-1/3-2 series. Thats better than compared to Jangbi at the time, who was winning 3-0 over everyone, but failed to get the title in the end. Nevertheless, there is a difference between 2-1 against hwasin and 2-1 against jjonga. Jaedong, by losing that game, did not meet S class expectations. Mind you, there are a myriad of examples of players doing poorly early on in the tournament, only sto shape up towards the end. Or putting more emphasis on pl over individual leagues, etc. I don't thinik the 2-1 against jjonga is horribly significant outside of the fact that Bisu and Jaedong are so close in results/skills, as of the last few months.
Just clarifying, and IMO if [hopefully! :D] jaedong vs Bisu happens in the ace match in PL, that will definitely prove it one way or the other.
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Well, it looks like Kespa might be moving up in the PR due to their creative play in the KT vs Hite series!
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On June 06 2009 17:39 Orbifold wrote:Well, it looks like Kespa might be moving up in the PR due to their creative play in the KT vs Hite series!
what has happened?
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thanks a lot.
Though I don't like Leta, I agree with the judgement, Kespa pronounced; you can't punish s.o. for doing nothing. Imo the one to blame is the KTF-coach, not Kespa.
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There should be an anti power rank, with Luxury, ForGG, and the KT coach somewhere around the top.
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Norway1530 Posts
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There's a spot for Best too.
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On June 07 2009 03:10 okum wrote: There's a spot for Best too.
Best who ? You mean Best from SKT just no ....
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whens the next powerrank?
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Should be out on the 10th I think
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most likely to be out when OZ vs T1 is played
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On June 06 2009 03:13 Orbifold wrote: I am a Flash fan, and don't really have a preference between Bisu and JD. I have also watched every game from both Bisu and Jaedong in the past month. It seems strange that there is any question who should be #1: Jaedong. They have performed similarly stats wise, but Jaedong's play has been much much better.
But there are times when jaedong just doesn't seem solid. Bisu has just been playing rock solid every game.
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Yep, that's the difference between them. Even though they are at the pinnacle of gaming, right now Jaedong's play can fluctuate to be even better or falter a little bit. It may be because he plays zerg. Bisu's play stays constant at a level of awesome. It may be because he plays protoss. I dunno, that's just the feeling I get for zergs and protossses.
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I think Horang2 should be on CBNC, that kid's really showing his stuff.
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JESUS H. CHRIST UPDATE THE POWER RANK
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On June 07 2009 14:43 DreaM)XeRO wrote: JESUS H. CHRIST UPDATE THE POWER RANK JESUS H. CHRIST READ THE THREAD.
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