Power Rank 05/15/2009 - Page 33

On June 03 2009 01:52 samachking wrote:
even his game vs Fantasy was a short game of perfect execution by Flash.

On June 03 2009 01:30 StylishVODs wrote:
I would rate fantasy abit higher than that, he's still one of the best players atm.

On June 03 2009 01:52 samachking wrote:

Flash should definetly not move up, his wins are not impressive, and he got mauled by Effort/Stork/Jangbi, even his game vs Fantasy was a short game of perfect execution by Flash.
Edit: My personal PR would be
1)Jaedong 2)Bisu 3)Effort 4)Leta 5)Fantasy 6)Flash 7)Violet 8)Stork 9)Skyhigh 10)Zero/Kwanro

On June 02 2009 18:45 Tyxiquale wrote:
u know what? i'm really impressed with how you've handled the shit and criticism that people's thrown ur way.. gluck for this month's PR

On June 03 2009 00:19 Klive5ive wrote:

I agree, people keep making these stupid arguments. There should be no issue of someone being "hard to displace" in the PR. Just put the best player at the moment in there.

On June 03 2009 03:34 tree.hugger wrote:


I never said Bisu is "hard to displace". I simply said he has looked every bit as impressive (to me, mind you, this is all opinion) as Jaedong and without a head-to-head, I can't say that Jaedong is better. So why demote Bisu?

On June 03 2009 03:34 tree.hugger wrote:


I never said Bisu is "hard to displace". I simply said he has looked every bit as impressive (to me, mind you, this is all opinion) as Jaedong and without a head-to-head, I can't say that Jaedong is better. So why demote Bisu?

On June 03 2009 05:39 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Bisu should remain number one on the PR. Jaedong went 2-1 against jjonga and 2-2 against movie. His zvp has just been too inconsistent. Compare that to Bisu's matchups, there has not been a weak game, not a weak matchup, nothing. Perfection.

On June 03 2009 04:08 Klive5ive wrote:

Your argument is flawed. You're saying Bisu should stay top because him and Jaedong are equal.
But how can two players who have vastly different results be exactly equal?
Calling them equal is just a cop-out because you don't want to make the difficult decision.
Basically, either argue Bisu > Jaedong or stop making daft posts.

On June 03 2009 06:11 tree.hugger wrote:
Woah, woah, woah. Easy there, what you call a cop-out is what I'd call nuance.

On June 03 2009 06:11 tree.hugger wrote:
I don't know who is the better player, because their results are excellent, and because I don't have a recent enough head-to-head to go on. Is that so absurd?

On June 03 2009 06:11 tree.hugger wrote:
I know of no mathematical formula to calculate their respective "power"

On June 03 2009 06:37 Sentenal wrote:
SKT1 is playing Oz this week, aren't they? Lets hope for a Bisu vs Jaedong, so the #1 on the rank can be clear cut.

On June 03 2009 09:18 tree.hugger wrote:


Agreed. In general, everyone probably roots for Bisu v. Jaedong.

Klive5ive, I don't know what I've done to make you so angry here... you have an opinion that (I think this right, no?) Jaedong is clearly better than Bisu. I am not so sure. You seem to suggest that I have no right to be unsure about who is better, as if the answer to that question were cut and dry, black and white.

What I see are two excellent starcraft players, both capable of beating each other on any map, at any time. If that's not two evenly matched opponents, then I guess I can't give you any better conditions.

Your suggestion, however, that I have no right to post (As something fun to be discussed) my thoughts is totally out-of-line, and completely contrary to the point of this forum.

On June 03 2009 06:11 StylishVODs wrote:


No, that was for the current PR.
Jaedong is 7-1 since last PR and Bisu 4-1. 1 loss each, both playing great.

On June 03 2009 09:49 Dazed_Spy wrote:
2-1 against Jjonga was this PR. Jjonga is bad. Jaedong's 7-1 record since the last PR has been against scrubs, excluding great and Leta [calm is no scrub, but his zvz is, obviously]. Bisu's opponents were not the cream of the crop either. All I am saying is, that this PR, Jaedong and Bisu have not shown anything different than they did the last PR. Jaedong and Bisu are still more than one step above everyone else, and they continue to bash down on low level to high level players. Nothing suggests either ones momentum or abilities has changed significantly since the last PR. The reason I brought up Jjonga is simply that: Jaedong's zvt is fan-fucking-tastic. His zvz the best in history. His zvp is, like last month, capable of beating bad to mediocre players, yet oddly, seems capable of losing to them as well. I'm not convinced that ATM Jaedong is as well rounded as Bisu.

This is an extremely hard statement to make/properly justify given that they are only playing some games in PL. There is little opportunity to prove themselves either way. And unfortunately, unless Jaedong can prove hes better, hes stuck at 2nd [in my opinion].