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On June 02 2009 14:11 JWD wrote:
News: I'll be writing the June Power Rank. Be on the lookout for it sometime around the 10th (to keep my promise to push the release date closer to the first of the month).
I've stopped contributing to the discussion in this thread over the past few pages, but I'd like all the commenters to know that I read each and every post in here and appreciated most of them (yes, even the critical ones). So thanks!
I'm eager for the chance to follow up this month's rank!
Oh please not at the 10th! I understand the idea behind it, but it already happened that a PR came out after 15 days the alst one was released, and everyone was happy about it (probably becaue one of the worst PRs was followed by one of the best), but anyways, please release it by the end of this week. Please!
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I'm going to have to second releasing it ASAP. Seeing Zero above Jaedong for much longer is going to make me a sad panda 
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United States12607 Posts
On June 02 2009 14:13 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Hey! JWD, I wonder what type of criteria will you use this time? Honestly, I'd like it better if you didn't use past author's criteria but stuck with your own or maybe try a new one.
The same criteria I used for the May rank: I'll be ranking the last month (the time elapsed since the May PR's publish date, May 15) of SC play's most powerful gamers. More specifically, that means some combination of a) general skill and b) the results they've posted over the past month.
And I'm sorry the release date will still be towards the middle of the month, but issuing a rank sooner would leave me with few games to go on (keep in mind May's rank was published on the 15th). The ~June 10th date is firm.
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whether or not it comes on the 10th or the 12th is of minor concern (to me)... rather if you say it'll be out by the 10th I would hope it would be out by then - otherwise you're raping your own words. by extension that would be applied towards the subjective power rank
sadly that was fakesteve's biggest caveat (imo)
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On June 02 2009 14:33 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2009 14:13 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Hey! JWD, I wonder what type of criteria will you use this time? Honestly, I'd like it better if you didn't use past author's criteria but stuck with your own or maybe try a new one. The same criteria I used for the May rank: I'll be ranking the last month (the time elapsed since the May PR's publish date, May 15) of SC play's most powerful gamers. More specifically, that means some combination of a) general skill and b) the results they've posted over the past month. And I'm sorry the release date will still be towards the middle of the month, but issuing a rank sooner would leave me with few games to go on (keep in mind May's rank was published on the 15th). The ~June 10th date is firm.
Do not put Violet over Bisu please, even if it is hypocritical do not screw up the PR more than you did this time, just use basic insight judging by previous performances.
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United States12607 Posts
On June 02 2009 16:48 samachking wrote:
do not screw up the PR more than you did this time
Interesting advice...I'll take it into consideration.
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u know what? i'm really impressed with how you've handled the shit and criticism that people's thrown ur way.. gluck for this month's PR
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gameplay wise Jaedong should be above Bisu
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Nice first idea. Anyway JD should be 1st, though he played really shaky vs. a protoss in the GSL... what was his name? does he even have a name?
Reason for JD being above Bisu:
+ Show Spoiler +
Vs. Keke, Bisu made the same mistake which made him fail in the past, he became overconfident:
-failed 5-pool
-totally won position for Bisu
-suicide attack, instead of playing it safe
-losing the expansion
-he still won, because keke is one of the least competent pro gamers I've ever seen + he wasn't that far behind
I'd like to rank Effort first, due to his recent development, but this is impossible considering how he gets totally destroyed by Bisu everytime they meet (also lost to JD lately).
Still I'm not that impressed, neither by JD's, nor by Bisu's play within the last few games.
So unless s.th. crucial happens top 3 should be
1. JD
2. Bisu
3. Effort
The following spots are very arguable, but imo alright, it should be considered that:
-Violet has impressive results, BUT: he beat only one A-class-player in his entire life (don't count the win vs. Lux, because lately he loses every game)
-Leta still hasn't climbed the next step, players like Skyhigh did it
-Kwanro should be on the ranking: he's in both SLs and almost always shows very entertaining play
-Iris has been on the rise for ages; putting the former Kespa-#4 on 9 or 10 is justified
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I say Flash should be #1 and fuck all the fights and insults.
on a serious note, I`m w8ing to see what comes out of the next PR 
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On June 02 2009 20:21 Polar_Bear wrote:Nice first idea. Anyway JD should be 1st, though he played really shaky vs. a protoss in the GSL... what was his name? does he even have a name? Reason for JD being above Bisu: + Show Spoiler +
Vs. Keke, Bisu made the same mistake which made him fail in the past, he became overconfident:
-failed 5-pool
-totally won position for Bisu
-suicide attack, instead of playing it safe
-losing the expansion
-he still won, because keke is one of the least competent pro gamers I've ever seen + he wasn't that far behind
I'd like to rank Effort first, due to his recent development, but this is impossible considering how he gets totally destroyed by Bisu everytime they meet (also lost to JD lately). Still I'm not that impressed, neither by JD's, nor by Bisu's play within the last few games. So unless s.th. crucial happens top 3 should be 1. JD 2. Bisu 3. Effort The following spots are very arguable, but imo alright, it should be considered that: -Violet has impressive results, BUT: he beat only one A-class-player in his entire life (don't count the win vs. Lux, because lately he loses every game) -Leta still hasn't climbed the next step, players like Skyhigh did it -Kwanro should be on the ranking: he's in both SLs and almost always shows very entertaining play -Iris has been on the rise for ages; putting the former Kespa-#4 on 9 or 10 is justified
I'm not so sure Bisu v. keke was poorly played. Every move Bisu did (fast expo, zealot push, sair/goon push, zealot counter) forced keke to torpedo his own economy to keep up. If keke followed the suggestion of apparently every C+ on TL to find a time to econ up and make a hydra switch, he would have been incredibly wrecked with how aggressive Bisu was being.
That being said, I'd probably put JD over Bisu just because JD's month has been so impressive and by the slightest margin, more impressive than Bisu's even though both seem to putting up such unsustainable results.
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Bisu is cheesing, that's why JD should be ontop 
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 02 2009 21:00 Verilan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2009 20:21 Polar_Bear wrote:Nice first idea. Anyway JD should be 1st, though he played really shaky vs. a protoss in the GSL... what was his name? does he even have a name? Reason for JD being above Bisu: + Show Spoiler +
Vs. Keke, Bisu made the same mistake which made him fail in the past, he became overconfident:
-failed 5-pool
-totally won position for Bisu
-suicide attack, instead of playing it safe
-losing the expansion
-he still won, because keke is one of the least competent pro gamers I've ever seen + he wasn't that far behind
I'd like to rank Effort first, due to his recent development, but this is impossible considering how he gets totally destroyed by Bisu everytime they meet (also lost to JD lately). Still I'm not that impressed, neither by JD's, nor by Bisu's play within the last few games. So unless s.th. crucial happens top 3 should be 1. JD 2. Bisu 3. Effort The following spots are very arguable, but imo alright, it should be considered that: -Violet has impressive results, BUT: he beat only one A-class-player in his entire life (don't count the win vs. Lux, because lately he loses every game) -Leta still hasn't climbed the next step, players like Skyhigh did it -Kwanro should be on the ranking: he's in both SLs and almost always shows very entertaining play -Iris has been on the rise for ages; putting the former Kespa-#4 on 9 or 10 is justified I'm not so sure Bisu v. keke was poorly played. Every move Bisu did (fast expo, zealot push, sair/goon push, zealot counter) forced keke to torpedo his own economy to keep up. If keke followed the suggestion of apparently every C+ on TL to find a time to econ up and make a hydra switch, he would have been incredibly wrecked with how aggressive Bisu was being. That being said, I'd probably put JD over Bisu just because JD's month has been so impressive and by the slightest margin, more impressive than Bisu's even though both seem to putting up such unsustainable results.
I actually think  Jaedong and  Bisu are tied for the first spot. In the absense of a head-on series result, I can't say who's better, and so I also wouldn't dethrone Bisu, just because his wins have been "less impressive" than JD's. In order to take over sole possesion of #1, I figured that JD would have to beat Bisu, or Bisu would have to suck. Neither has happened.
EffOrt has gutted through wins against some stronger players (Mind/BaBy), and totally wrecked inferior ones, ( Bogus, SangHo). It's a real pity that he's in JD'd bracket for GOM, but EffOrt is a perenial top four in starleagues. He's not quite good enough to win yet. He also has 20 wins, in his last 23 games.
Violet is 11 of his last 12, and has shown excellent preparation (Bisu) and great game sense (Luxury). I agree, you'd like to see another win against a top flight player up there, but as it is, this guy looks really really good.
Iris is a solid player, but he hasn't played a lot of proleague recently, it seems. Kwanro's 0-2 loss to ZerO kinda erases his magnificent OSL group win. Also, his loss to UpMaGiC in proleague was kinda pathetic. That said, I have no idea who else would be in the tenth spot. Does it seem to anyone else that there just aren't any good zergs out there? Out of at least 48 proleague players, why is it always so hard to find ten players worthy of recognition? Myabe JangBi could get that spot, he and Stork never really slump...
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"In order to take over sole possesion of #1, I figured that JD would have to beat Bisu, or Bisu would have to suck. Neither has happened. " Not under the new order of Power Rank!
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Why would Bisu have to suck or lose for Jaedong to be ahead of him?
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Norway1530 Posts
On June 02 2009 23:20 tree.hugger wrote:
... Jangbi and Stork never really slump...
ehm
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I would rate fantasy abit higher than that, he's still one of the best players atm.
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Flash should definetly not move up, his wins are not impressive, and he got mauled by Effort/Stork/Jangbi, even his game vs Fantasy was a short game of perfect execution by Flash. Flash should be moved down to no6 minimum. Skyhigh is right around there, all he did was defend vs all ins this month. Zero had a terrible performance this month losing mass ZvZs and even losing on Battle Royale, not sure how it will work with him in the PR.
Edit: My personal PR would be
1)Jaedong
2)Bisu
3)Effort
4)Leta
5)Fantasy
6)Flash
7)Violet
8)Stork
9)Skyhigh
10)Zero/Kwanro
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EPT
