Power Rank 04/10/2009 - Page 19

On May 11 2009 16:56 fanatacist wrote:

Even after the last 2 bio games you think that Fantasy is a scarier, more well-rounded, and more unbeatable opponent than Bisu?

On May 11 2009 19:52 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:


you think that two inconsequential losses from a player who created and uses heavily modified mech builds that are safe and effective rather than upmagic and every other terran''s style of hoping to catch the zerg with their pants down...

you think those two losses mean more than the other games he's played lately?

this is why i said i'm glad. anything i say goes in one ear and out the other with you guys, but you won't watch the games themselves, or if you do, you don't understand what you're seeing. No one is playing anywhere near Fantasy's level right now and it's a damn shame that so many people have forgotten what makes a great player great. it sure as hell ain't proleague statistics.

On May 11 2009 19:52 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:


you think that two inconsequential losses from a player who created and uses heavily modified mech builds that are safe and effective rather than upmagic and every other terran''s style of hoping to catch the zerg with their pants down...

you think those two losses mean more than the other games he's played lately?

this is why i said i'm glad. anything i say goes in one ear and out the other with you guys, but you won't watch the games themselves, or if you do, you don't understand what you're seeing. No one is playing anywhere near Fantasy's level right now and it's a damn shame that so many people have forgotten what makes a great player great. it sure as hell ain't proleague statistics.

On May 11 2009 19:52 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:


you think that two inconsequential losses from a player who created and uses heavily modified mech builds that are safe and effective rather than upmagic and every other terran''s style of hoping to catch the zerg with their pants down...

you think those two losses mean more than the other games he's played lately?

this is why i said i'm glad. anything i say goes in one ear and out the other with you guys, but you won't watch the games themselves, or if you do, you don't understand what you're seeing. No one is playing anywhere near Fantasy's level right now and it's a damn shame that so many people have forgotten what makes a great player great. it sure as hell ain't proleague statistics.

people have forgotten what makes a great player great.

On May 11 2009 21:36 disciple wrote:


hmm, really? I remember,like 2 years ago, Federer doing just enough to beat his opponents in the early stages of the tournaments. You see, he was doing nothing spectacular, yet he still seemed unbeatable by all these average guys. But when it was about a really important match in the further stages of the tournament Fed really started to push things. My point is what makes a great player great is the ability not to lose games, no matter how good or focused his play was. With that being said fantasy is just fireworks and candies atm, yes, he is entertaining but that doesnt make him the best player atm.

On May 11 2009 21:41 raga4ka wrote:


For once i agree with disciple .

On May 11 2009 21:48 disciple wrote:

lol :D I'm actually with you on most of the things you post with the exception of the stuff about Luxury. He sucks, man

On May 11 2009 20:51 Darth Peter wrote:

Inconsequental losses? If those are inconsequential losses,than Jaedongs's are as well,and Bisu's sloppy plays against Backho and Shuttle and Light. Everything is inconsequential. I am sorry to say,but for the first time you don't make any sense. I am glad that you don't write the PR as well.

On May 11 2009 22:05 iCCup.d(O.o)a wrote:



Is this a joke? Lol.

On May 11 2009 21:44 Neptuneajax wrote:
Since the last PR was post on April 10th
Jaedong has gone 7-5, with 5 of these wins in his best matchup ZvZ. He lost a ZvZ, and lost to players the caliber of ganzi and movie.
Fantasy has gone 6-2 with win over Sea and Jaedong himself, however with lossed to rising Zerg stars, Calm and Hogil
Bisu has gone 8-1 with a loss to cheese from By.Great. He be beat players the likes of Light, Calm, Zero, and Leta, all of whom have been playing very well.

Make of that what you will.....

On May 11 2009 22:37 samachking wrote:


Fantasy 8raxed Sea in his nat, granted Bisu cheesed Leta too, but has been winging and pulling things out and winning.

Also to Steve about creativity:
Isnt Leta's TvZ something more original and powerful that Fantasy ever does, and it is his own build that no one else can mimic as well. Make fun of Upmagic as much as you want, but he has helped modify Fantasy's build after incruit to create the standard TvZ build that was used last season. I am not talking about the vult harass into Valk/M&M, but the build where you go speed vults to harass and pressure into Mass Goli, few tanks. JD's new response to the mech build, the 2hat Den/Muta seems to be doing well against all of fantasy's mech variations, including the Valk/M&M build where Z counters by massing lurkers to counter. Shouldnt Jaedong get credit for providing a powerful counter for Zs to the build instead of using 3hat everytime?

On May 11 2009 22:11 Darth Peter wrote:

He said he is not going to write the PR because of RL problems,so he will find somebody qualified. If you already knew that please tell me what was so funny about my post because my explaining in English is not the best,and if you point out what's funny,perhaps I can rephrase it.

On May 11 2009 13:25 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I'm pretty sure this is the power rank, and not the creativity rank.

On May 12 2009 03:03 Nylan wrote:


"Power?" Why is seperate from ELO then? Hmm? Because statistics alone aren't what makes a player great.

On May 12 2009 02:35 iCCup.d(O.o)a wrote:


You said you don't write which implies that the person does not write them IE somebody else does. He most certainly writes PR's simply not this next one.