EPTPower Rank 04/10/2009 - Page 17
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On May 10 2009 15:12 latent wrote: If we're basing the next power rank off of what has happened so far since the last one, then + Show Spoiler + Bisu winning today and Fantasy losing puts Bisu at the top Also maybe you should mention Leta's 7-5 is really more of an 8-4 due to the pp DQ. And I think Jaedong's 7-5 just doesn't look that good when stacked next to those other top performers, especially considering the people he lost to. How can Leta's 7-5 become an 8-4? I know the DQ decision was retarded, but he wasn't even winning that game. Anyway, for top 3 I can see: 1. Jaedong 2. Bisu 3. Fantasy JD lost a few games, but he's back in shape now, imo. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On May 10 2009 15:43 Lachrymose wrote: wait what, your arguement is bisu almost/could have lost some games he won but didnt so he isnt that good and jaedong lost a heap of games but they werent important? wait, my argument was that his PLAY did not look unbetable at all, not that his 7-1 should be 5-3 or sg like that. And yes, JD's games werent that important. And if you follow the PR's history players dont move down that fast because a couple unexpected losses. SL winners are always favored even a month after they won the title | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On May 10 2009 15:47 Avidkeystamper wrote: I don't like the PR since there's so much pointless arguing. A lot of ppl dont like either, the strategy they use is to not read and not post here. Let those noobies who like arguing about pointless stuff "enjoy" their time. | ||
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latent
United States428 Posts
IIRC he took out Kal's reaver and was well in the lead. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On May 10 2009 15:12 latent wrote: If we're basing the next power rank off of what has happened so far since the last one, then + Show Spoiler + Bisu winning today and Fantasy losing puts Bisu at the top Also maybe you should mention Leta's 7-5 is really more of an 8-4 due to the pp DQ. And I think Jaedong's 7-5 just doesn't look that good when stacked next to those other top performers, especially considering the people he lost to. Jaedong lost 1 game to Fantasy , Movie and a ZvZ to Hyvva thoes are the games that carry the bigger weight . His other loss to Movie is meaningless since he eliminated him from GOM and the game against Ganzi was somewhat bad , but you have to take note that Byzantinum 3 is what 10 -1 in favour of terrans ? This loss will also be meaningless if Jaedong makes it out of the MST . The gap is close between the top players , but it is still to early to tell who is on top unless someone makes a bigger blunder then the other . | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
i'm gonna get someone else to take over this column for a while. i'm working the weekend again and it's pretty obvious i don't have the time necessary to give the power rank the care it deserves. i will try my best to find a replacement i feel is both qualified and entertaining enough to fill these shoes, but for now, i can't be reliable enough with this to do it myself i will say that given how everyone has played over the last month, there is absolutely no choice but fantasy for #1. | ||
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fanatacist
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On May 10 2009 15:47 Avidkeystamper wrote: I don't like the PR since there's so much pointless arguing. Yeah, curse people passionately debating StarCraft and their foul creating of healthy opposition and non-conformity. I read and enjoy the Power Rank, even when I feel someone on it is misplaced for that particular month. To not enjoy an arbitrary list because people debate it? I'm not sure what you want from the Power Rank, but you need to re-evaluate your priorities. | ||
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
On May 10 2009 19:31 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: hey guys i'm gonna get someone else to take over this column for a while. i'm working the weekend again and it's pretty obvious i don't have the time necessary to give the power rank the care it deserves. i will try my best to find a replacement i feel is both qualified and entertaining enough to fill these shoes, but for now, i can't be reliable enough with this to do it myself i will say that given how everyone has played over the last month, there is absolutely no choice but fantasy for #1. im really curious how you figure that not only has fantasy more than bisu at all, not only has he done enough more than bisu to pass him but he has done so much more than bisu you have no choice but to put fantasy ahead? o_O | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
edit: I should clarify this, because I don't mean to say Bisu's play is comparable to 'the average protoss'. Bisu is definitely the clear choice for #2 (sorry jaedong fans, he's started using 2hatch muta as a crutch lately - his play is uncharacteristically weak these days), I simply meant that he is playing average relative to his own skill level. Nothing he's doing lately is particularily incredible, and fantasy is outshining him in nearly every aspect of gameplay. Bisu's a damned good Protoss, but we have a player pushing the envelope and displaying new, terrifyingly effective applications of old ideas, as well as fresh innovations. There's just no comparison right now between the two. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On May 11 2009 00:15 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: i'm glad you know how to use tlpd but that isn't how the power rank is decided. fantasy is the best player in the world right now, it's pretty clear-cut. bisu is playing average games against average opponents and winning, fantasy is playing brilliantly. and he's on a 2 loss streak, if Bisu's opponents were averege what do you say about Fantasy's(Frozean, Zergbong, slumping players). His best win was against JD, and JD showed he's the better player in the recent OSL finals, how does 1 bo1 change this much? I'm not impressed with him at all. | ||
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Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
He can contest for it, but there is no way he is out and out number 1 player | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On May 11 2009 00:15 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: i'm glad you know how to use tlpd but that isn't how the power rank is decided. fantasy is the best player in the world right now, it's pretty clear-cut. bisu is playing average games against average opponents and winning, fantasy is playing brilliantly. edit: I should clarify this, because I don't mean to say Bisu's play is comparable to 'the average protoss'. Bisu is definitely the clear choice for #2 (sorry jaedong fans, he's started using 2hatch muta as a crutch lately - his play is uncharacteristically weak these days), I simply meant that he is playing average relative to his own skill level. Nothing he's doing lately is particularily incredible, and fantasy is outshining him in nearly every aspect of gameplay. Bisu's a damned good Protoss, but we have a player pushing the envelope and displaying new, terrifyingly effective applications of old ideas, as well as fresh innovations. There's just no comparison right now between the two. Other than Jaedong, they are playing the same type of oppenents, more or less, but Bisu has more wins. If Bisu is just playing averagely compared to his own skill, and won every game except vs Great's proxy hatch, and Fantasy is playing brilliantly but with less wins and more losses, how does that make Fantasy above him? I just don't see a reason for Fantasy above Bisu right now, considering his past 2 games. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
Skyhigh also deserves a fairly high spot, as of course do bisu and jaedong. Flash also had a fairly good month, and I dont think its fair to double-punish a player for getting eliminated from leagues in the past month. I feel that the Power rank has become too much about who won the individual league that month, and not enough about who is actually the most powerful player. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
you guys watch fantasy's games and bisu's games and you don't see a CLEAR difference? | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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