EPTPower Rank 04/10/2009 - Page 15
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piratebay
United States399 Posts
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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
On April 30 2009 16:15 Samurai- wrote: Why would jaedong be #1 again? Fantasy, Bisu, Flash and specially Leta are all showing stronger play... Jaedong showed nothing special this month since his OSL win was already counted for the previous month.. edit: he even lost to fucking ganzi... Give him a break, Ganzi is a Terran. We all know Terran > Zerg in history of SC so Jaedong has to fight an uphill battle. He can't win all the uphill battles + Show Spoiler + Just kidding but Terran mech TvZ is pretty imba imo | ||
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purple[time]
13 Posts
On May 04 2009 07:18 AzureEye wrote: Give him a break, Ganzi is a Terran. We all know Terran > Zerg in history of SC so Jaedong has to fight an uphill battle. He can't win all the uphill battles + Show Spoiler + Just kidding but Terran mech TvZ is pretty imba imo oh god i was really happy to see you were joking. | ||
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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
On May 04 2009 11:19 purple[time] wrote: oh god i was really happy to see you were joking. I'm not joking about the mech part though. 34% winning rate for Zergs when they face mech is ridiculous | ||
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Tyxiquale
Australia424 Posts
On May 04 2009 11:48 AzureEye wrote: I'm not joking about the mech part though. 34% winning rate for Zergs when they face mech is ridiculous how did you get that figure of 34%? to my knowledge, it can't be seen from tlpd. Also, how would you classify fantasy's game 1 medusa build against Jaedong in OSL finals? It was mech at the start to fend off mutas.. but then he transitioned to mnms + tanks | ||
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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
On May 04 2009 13:05 Tyxiquale wrote: how did you get that figure of 34%? to my knowledge, it can't be seen from tlpd. Also, how would you classify fantasy's game 1 medusa build against Jaedong in OSL finals? It was mech at the start to fend off mutas.. but then he transitioned to mnms + tanks http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=86679 Calculates the TvZ mech winning percentage to be like 67% or something close I think Mech opening to fend mutas, then transitioning into bio / tanks is just as strong if not stronger. When T suddenly switches like that, Z might not have lurks ready which will screw him over. MnM eats up hydras and so do tanks. The powerful thing about Terran tech is not the power of the units themselves (very powerful nevertheless) but how much Z's unit composition has to change to adapt to it. Whether or not Z switches it up, going mass hydras, or mass mutas, MnM or mass goliaths/tanks are like jack-of-all trades, they can handle different things Z throws at it. It cannot be said the same for Z's units | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On May 04 2009 13:24 AzureEye wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=86679 Calculates the TvZ mech winning percentage to be like 67% or something close I think Mech opening to fend mutas, then transitioning into bio / tanks is just as strong if not stronger. When T suddenly switches like that, Z might not have lurks ready which will screw him over. MnM eats up hydras and so do tanks. The powerful thing about Terran tech is not the power of the units themselves (very powerful nevertheless) but how much Z's unit composition has to change to adapt to it. Whether or not Z switches it up, going mass hydras, or mass mutas, MnM or mass goliaths/tanks are like jack-of-all trades, they can handle different things Z throws at it. It cannot be said the same for Z's units That was over 4 months ago now. Since then, zergs have figured out how to fight mech, and the winrate is much closer to 50-50 these days. Mech into bio is a different story, but I don't think it's been used enough yet to really see how well it works on the pro level. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5676 Posts
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
On May 04 2009 16:08 raga4ka wrote: I agree. | ||
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SerpentFlame
415 Posts
On May 04 2009 15:13 Elyvilon wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 04 2009 13:24 AzureEye wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=86679 Calculates the TvZ mech winning percentage to be like 67% or something close I think Mech opening to fend mutas, then transitioning into bio / tanks is just as strong if not stronger. When T suddenly switches like that, Z might not have lurks ready which will screw him over. MnM eats up hydras and so do tanks. The powerful thing about Terran tech is not the power of the units themselves (very powerful nevertheless) but how much Z's unit composition has to change to adapt to it. Whether or not Z switches it up, going mass hydras, or mass mutas, MnM or mass goliaths/tanks are like jack-of-all trades, they can handle different things Z throws at it. It cannot be said the same for Z's units That was over 4 months ago now. Since then, zergs have figured out how to fight mech, and the winrate is much closer to 50-50 these days. Mech into bio is a different story, but I don't think it's been used enough yet to really see how well it works on the pro level. Although I disagree that mech is imbalanced (new builds always cause a ripple before they're dealt with; Terran mech is not even new, it was used all the time in 2002/2003, where it then faded out of prominence due to being too weak, as opposed to too strong), there's no denying that the ability for a Terran to do both mech and bionic, with the ability to both integrate them and mix it up during games, has created a much more powerful and fearsome Terran v Zerg than the TvZ of 6 months ago; the zerg just has to deal with the possibility of so many more options from the Terran player. Speaking of such terrans, how come Upmagic has never been on the CBNC list on the Power Rank in the recent months? His TvT is definitely S class (not only has he destroyed flash in some great sets in the OSL and the proleague, but his losses are never really him playing badly as opposed to his opponent playing excellently; his games are all brilliantly fun to watch as well). Upmagic's also sported a good record vs Zerg for the past half year, and he's shown some spectacular play last MSL/OSL. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 03 2009 02:27 Avidkeystamper wrote: I won't argue that Fantasy deserves to be first right now, but whenever a non-SL player is first on the PR, it just feels wrong to me. That's just a personal opinion, and should have no bearing on the ranking. If it were up to me Luxury and Jangbi would be CBNC this month | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On May 05 2009 21:10 Plexa wrote: If it were up to me Luxury and Jangbi would be CBNC this month +1 but who to put instead of them? 2 or even 3 others are certanely out too so, i dont know... Steve doesnt know either, so he decided to skip the month, props to the smart ppl who voted "June" at the poll | ||
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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
But then again, Jaedong is playing mediocore so no one is really qualified for the 1st place spot. But then again...+ Show Spoiler + Fantasy just got raped by HoGil? Lmao | ||
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Geo.Rion
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Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
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Sprite
United States1015 Posts
 by.great for top 10  | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
Yeah, by.great has been destroying everyone in proleague. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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latent
United States428 Posts
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Jonvvv
Norway1530 Posts
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