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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 28 2009 15:39 GMT
#241
this surely was a PR with really few comments
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-29 09:53:07
April 28 2009 18:27 GMT
#242
Luxury should drop a few spots next month he's been killing my FPL together with Stork , but don't drop him to much , because he is been losing to good players except pure ... Stork and JangBi should drop too . Leta skyhigh and Fantasy should move up . Also Kal hasn't been doing to shaby Free also .
Origami
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States266 Posts
April 28 2009 18:55 GMT
#243
I got bored so I thought I'd see how the current PR players have been doing this month. This all starts at April 11th since those were the first games played since this PR was posted.

Jaedong: 5-4 since April 11th. 3-0 ZvZ, but 2-4 for anything else.

Luxury: 1-4. Only win is against Sea on Outsider.

Bisu: 3-1. Wins against Light, Backho, and Reach. Lost to the Great Contain though.

Fantasy: Perfect 4-0 so far including a win over Jaedong.

Jangbi: 1-5. Only win was going 1-2 against Baby in GOM where he was eliminated regardless.

Stork: 2-4. His wins came from ZerO and going 1-2 against MVP in GOM.

Flash: 6-2. Lost in the MST Winners match and lost a TvZ on Battle Royal. While Flash would be eliminated from the MSL if he loses again, it's pretty unlikely considering his competition.

by.hero: 2-1. He really didn't do much this month. Beat Sair 2-0 in GOM and lost to Piano in PL.

Skyhigh: 3-1. Advanced to MSL by beating Hyuk and Flash and has gone 1-1 in PL (Win over Young, Loss to Jaehoon)

Nada: 1-2. Eliminated from GOM by going 1-2 against Falcon.


The MST on the 30th will be pretty important for some people.
iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
April 28 2009 21:28 GMT
#244
It seems that Terrans have risen to the top again with Flash, Fantasy, Skyhigh, Light, Leta...
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
April 28 2009 21:37 GMT
#245
meh, I see no reason for JD to drop the top spot... ofc if he somehow gets outed from the MSL so early it could be a different story, but I doubt it will happen. Below him its hard to say whats what but I guess fantasy bisu flash and skyhigh should be somewhere near the top as well
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
April 28 2009 22:34 GMT
#246
Skyhigh really making a tear up the ranks. I don't remember the last time someone went up so fast so soon. I'm not counting Leta, since he was good for a long time before his PR entrance.
Jaedong
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-29 06:05:18
April 29 2009 06:04 GMT
#247
Luxury should fall IMO. I don't know where Jaedong should go, if he should even go anywhere. He has gone like 5-5 since OSL finals, right? He lost game 1 in MST, so is borderline there (though, still likely to make it out). 3-3 in PL so far. Advanced 2-1 in GOM. Mediocre results, but mainly the biggest thing against him right now is PL losses, which I don't really put too much weight on. I guess he should stay at #1 for the month, but other people like Bisu and Fantasy are catching up (both should rise IMO).
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 29 2009 10:54 GMT
#248
Jd producing some awful results, but he didnt drop out from nowhere.
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
April 29 2009 13:29 GMT
#249
On April 29 2009 07:34 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Skyhigh really making a tear up the ranks. I don't remember the last time someone went up so fast so soon. I'm not counting Leta, since he was good for a long time before his PR entrance.


Did everyone forget the fact that Skyhigh was a GOM season 2 semifinalist and teared everyone's ass through( except Bisu who was in god-mode at that time) including his series vs Best which was fucking impressive SC while Best was still playing good PvT? Skyhigh was playing good SC last season 2, just his all kill put him on the spot, thats all. Fantasy(In series especially),Flash,Leta, are better than Skyhigh although he has been playing sick SC recently.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 29 2009 14:36 GMT
#250
I don't envy FakeSteve's job for next month, this month's results are pretty hard to analyze as it's just early GOM games, MST groups, and proleague games on some maps with serious balance issues...

I'm honestly expecting a pretty unambitious rank next month with some ordering of Flash/Bisu/Jaedong in the top 3 pending anything silly happening and knocking any of them out of a league early. Other than that, I don't really know what to expect besides Lux remaining on the list at either 8, 9, or 10 with some sort of warning of dropping off if he doesn't step his shit up, Jangbi getting smashed for his poor proleague performances (and probably for losing to Baby too, but Baby played a hell of a series, so it's harder to fault him for that loss even if it is in his godmode matchup), and Stork getting a stern talking to for fucking up vs. MVP or possibly being removed from the list straight up.

eh, as per usual, I just wanna see Steve write some ridiculous shit that's a good read.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 29 2009 15:03 GMT
#251
On April 29 2009 22:29 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2009 07:34 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Skyhigh really making a tear up the ranks. I don't remember the last time someone went up so fast so soon. I'm not counting Leta, since he was good for a long time before his PR entrance.


Did everyone forget the fact that Skyhigh was a GOM season 2 semifinalist and teared everyone's ass through( except Bisu who was in god-mode at that time) including his series vs Best which was fucking impressive SC while Best was still playing good PvT? Skyhigh was playing good SC last season 2, just his all kill put him on the spot, thats all. Fantasy(In series especially),Flash,Leta, are better than Skyhigh although he has been playing sick SC recently.

I personally have had my eye on Skyhigh for a long time... Especially after Idra said something like "If MSL was offline, SkyHigh would win it". Not too surprising that he's doing well atm, and I'm expecting a lot more of him in the future.
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Verilan
Profile Joined March 2009
United States67 Posts
April 29 2009 15:33 GMT
#252
I think you're forgetting Fantasy, Mogwai.

It's gotta be Jaedong at 1 (poor week but enough to hold his OSL win for another month since Fantasy and Bisu have only played 4 games each).

Bisu for 2nd if he 2-0s his MST, otherwise he switches with Fantasy for 3rd.

Flash for 4th, it's a big jump from 7 for 6-2 but everyone in between dropped the ball.
(3-1 proleague, 1 bo3 over Pure, 1-1 to loser's game in MST)

The rest of the rankings is muddy but uncontroversial.

Luxury played even below expectations, if that's possible. His MSL win had to be honored last month but this month's proleague results should put him in a spot he more accurately deserves.

Jangbi may have narrowly averted a free fall with his + Show Spoiler +
one proleague win
but won't be in the conversation for the top spots with his performance.

Not that Skyhigh and by.hero aren't great and all but no matter what, their positions this month are probably going to be overrated. Expectations exceed results for them by a large margin simply because there weren't enough games.

I'd still put Stork somewhere around the 8th spot. Nada is out of course, but Leta belongs somewhere.

Zero, Effort, and Calm are all looking really good. Is it enough to break Power Rank? You could easily slap them all on CBNC, zerg has the best up and coming talent.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 29 2009 15:35 GMT
#253
On April 29 2009 23:36 Mogwai wrote:
I don't envy FakeSteve's job for next month, this month's results are pretty hard to analyze as it's just early GOM games, MST groups, and proleague games on some maps with serious balance issues...

I'm honestly expecting a pretty unambitious rank next month with some ordering of Flash/Bisu/Jaedong in the top 3 pending anything silly happening and knocking any of them out of a league early. Other than that, I don't really know what to expect besides Lux remaining on the list at either 8, 9, or 10 with some sort of warning of dropping off if he doesn't step his shit up, Jangbi getting smashed for his poor proleague performances (and probably for losing to Baby too, but Baby played a hell of a series, so it's harder to fault him for that loss even if it is in his godmode matchup), and Stork getting a stern talking to for fucking up vs. MVP or possibly being removed from the list straight up.

eh, as per usual, I just wanna see Steve write some ridiculous shit that's a good read.


Steve might just skip a couple weeks and wait till the situation becomes clerarer, haven't heard a word from him for quite some time, and it's the last day of the month so....
why dont we make a "guess when the PR will come out" poll?
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 29 2009 16:06 GMT
#254
On April 30 2009 00:33 Verilan wrote:
I think you're forgetting Fantasy, Mogwai.

It's gotta be Jaedong at 1 (poor week but enough to hold his OSL win for another month since Fantasy and Bisu have only played 4 games each).

Bisu for 2nd if he 2-0s his MST, otherwise he switches with Fantasy for 3rd.

Flash for 4th, it's a big jump from 7 for 6-2 but everyone in between dropped the ball.
(3-1 proleague, 1 bo3 over Pure, 1-1 to loser's game in MST)

The rest of the rankings is muddy but uncontroversial.

Luxury played even below expectations, if that's possible. His MSL win had to be honored last month but this month's proleague results should put him in a spot he more accurately deserves.

Jangbi may have narrowly averted a free fall with his + Show Spoiler +
one proleague win
but won't be in the conversation for the top spots with his performance.

Not that Skyhigh and by.hero aren't great and all but no matter what, their positions this month are probably going to be overrated. Expectations exceed results for them by a large margin simply because there weren't enough games.

I'd still put Stork somewhere around the 8th spot. Nada is out of course, but Leta belongs somewhere.

Zero, Effort, and Calm are all looking really good. Is it enough to break Power Rank? You could easily slap them all on CBNC, zerg has the best up and coming talent.


If Steve's not willing to put Fantasy over Bisu for 3-0ing Bisu and taking 2 out of 5 vs. Jaedong because he's "He just isn't as good as Bisu yet," what makes you think that he'll put Fantasy over Flash in a month where their results aren't as lopsided as last (where Fantasy did a helluva lot and Flash didn't do jack). Fantasy isn't as good as flash and in a month where you can mostly just look at proleague, losing to a Zerg on battle royal is a foregone conclusion anyway and that's the only real difference in their records. I'd be surprised to see Fantasy over Flash, and if that's the way it is, I'll be interested to hear the method behind FS's madness.
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Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
April 29 2009 17:20 GMT
#255
On April 30 2009 01:06 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2009 00:33 Verilan wrote:
I think you're forgetting Fantasy, Mogwai.

It's gotta be Jaedong at 1 (poor week but enough to hold his OSL win for another month since Fantasy and Bisu have only played 4 games each).

Bisu for 2nd if he 2-0s his MST, otherwise he switches with Fantasy for 3rd.

Flash for 4th, it's a big jump from 7 for 6-2 but everyone in between dropped the ball.
(3-1 proleague, 1 bo3 over Pure, 1-1 to loser's game in MST)

The rest of the rankings is muddy but uncontroversial.

Luxury played even below expectations, if that's possible. His MSL win had to be honored last month but this month's proleague results should put him in a spot he more accurately deserves.

Jangbi may have narrowly averted a free fall with his + Show Spoiler +
one proleague win
but won't be in the conversation for the top spots with his performance.

Not that Skyhigh and by.hero aren't great and all but no matter what, their positions this month are probably going to be overrated. Expectations exceed results for them by a large margin simply because there weren't enough games.

I'd still put Stork somewhere around the 8th spot. Nada is out of course, but Leta belongs somewhere.

Zero, Effort, and Calm are all looking really good. Is it enough to break Power Rank? You could easily slap them all on CBNC, zerg has the best up and coming talent.


If Steve's not willing to put Fantasy over Bisu for 3-0ing Bisu and taking 2 out of 5 vs. Jaedong because he's "He just isn't as good as Bisu yet," what makes you think that he'll put Fantasy over Flash in a month where their results aren't as lopsided as last (where Fantasy did a helluva lot and Flash didn't do jack). Fantasy isn't as good as flash and in a month where you can mostly just look at proleague, losing to a Zerg on battle royal is a foregone conclusion anyway and that's the only real difference in their records. I'd be surprised to see Fantasy over Flash, and if that's the way it is, I'll be interested to hear the method behind FS's madness.

It would be crazy to rank Flash above Fantasy. I mean Fantasy was no3 because in the past,after the OSL he played like an ass in Proleague,Gom and MSL. Now that he is tearing shit up in Proleague too,and being fresh off of an awesome OSL run,there is no way in hell Flash should be above him. Flash was always good in PL,we have to see how he will do in the current Starleagues before we even consider him for top 3. And so far,he didn't shine in the MSL.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-29 17:51:56
April 29 2009 17:51 GMT
#256
well, let's see what happens with Fantasy in MST tonight, though I fully expect him to make it out of that group tonight.

I just think that it's a PR theme that if FS has a gut feeling about who's a better player in a slow month, he will put his gut feeling ahead of somewhat inconsequential differences in recent game results. I'm still not sold on Fantasy being better than Flash, and at the end of the day, I think that Steve's gut feeling on that issue is what's going to determine their ordering.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-29 19:40:41
April 29 2009 19:38 GMT
#257
On April 30 2009 02:51 Mogwai wrote:
well, let's see what happens with Fantasy in MST tonight, though I fully expect him to make it out of that group tonight.

I just think that it's a PR theme that if FS has a gut feeling about who's a better player in a slow month, he will put his gut feeling ahead of somewhat inconsequential differences in recent game results. I'm still not sold on Fantasy being better than Flash, and at the end of the day, I think that Steve's gut feeling on that issue is what's going to determine their ordering.

Yeah,Steve puts his gut feelings ahead,but even if he had balls as big as July has,he couldn't put Flash in top 3 after 4 victories against players like Pure,Horang 2 and Piano,even if Flash looked well in those games. To sum it up,Flash looked okay last month,while Fantasy looked FUCKING great last month,and even before the last month. Flash can't get a top 3 spot yet just because he is a more established player. Bisu was above Fantasy because he still played unbelieavably that month. If it was about gut feeings than Boxer,Savior and Nada should be the top 3 in every single PR.
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-29 20:55:56
April 29 2009 20:55 GMT
#258
My top 10 would be:
1.Jaedong
2.Bisu
3.Fantasy
4.Flash,I guess
5. Leta
6. Skyhigh
7. Luxury
8. Jangbi
9. Great
10. Thezerg

It's weird that there is two zergs who are winning because of map imbalances i guess,but still,you have to put somebody in the PR,and out of the zergs,these two have performed the best. Stork plays god awful,the other zergs are inconsistent,so are the terrans,I would even have a hard time putting Jangbi in,but whatever and I don't know,maybe Free is the only other option,or so. Really hard month.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 29 2009 21:14 GMT
#259
eh, I don't like great or TheZerg on the list over Calm or Zero or Effort. I mean, hell, you could drop Jangbi and Luxury for playing like asses and just put all Calm, Zero, Effort and Great @ 7-10 and I'd be fine with it. I expect your top 8 are roughly correct for what'll come out though, maybe a little shuffling around among them, but probably those 8 players + 2 out of Calm Zero Effort and Great at 9-10...

I dunno, great has some nice wins... but seriously... ZergBong? dude... how're you gonna get booted from an individual league by ZergBong?
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Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-30 07:19:52
April 30 2009 07:15 GMT
#260
Why would jaedong be #1 again?

Fantasy, Bisu, Flash and specially Leta are all showing stronger play... Jaedong showed nothing special this month since his OSL win was already counted for the previous month..

edit: he even lost to fucking ganzi...
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