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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
May 12 2009 07:38 GMT
#401
man this power rank is old now lol
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-12 07:39:55
May 12 2009 07:39 GMT
#402
On May 12 2009 16:31 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2009 15:43 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 12 2009 15:36 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On May 12 2009 15:15 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Yeah it's cool. Everyone has their reasons, but blanket saying "You're all clueless and have no idea who is the best!" when quite a few might be just as knowledgeable about the game as you demands some mean sarcasm!

I don't entirely disagree with Fantasy being at the top, but I do disagree with how you say it's clear cut he's playing the best. He's playing good enough to be in the running for the top, in which is creativity and unexpected builds could push him over the slightly more predictable Jaedong and Bisu.

edit: to clarify even more, I think people are kind of overreacting to your overreaction. You've long been known as...boisterous, to put it politely, and people should expect when you think someone is at the top, regardless of the gap, you're so sure of it that you will bite someone's jugular out if they so much as raise a finger against you.

That and general ignorance to your fervor lead to almost knee-jerk counter arguments, especially following a month where the #1 was so clear cut it wasn't even close to a challenge (Jaedong at the time of the last PR was playing better starcraft than anyone ever has in the history of the game, as far as I'm concerned) and no one really had much to argue with.


uhhhh no one knows as much as me

maybe you passed over the words 'sea[shield] and saint[z-zone]' in more_minerals's post????

and yeah i always vehemently defend the #1 choice, to the grave, mine or yours. I'll raise hell if my stand-in doesn't see it the same way

in all seriousness though, the edge fantasy has is in execution. during his game against frozean he basically just 'decided' before the match to overwhelm frozean with macro, and that's exactly what happened. that is definitely not fantasy's normal style. during the game against oversky, fantasy was on the ropes due to a clever 1hatch lurker build. he turned what would be a scraping comeback victory by any other top terran into a complete blowout, like the lurkers didn't bother him at all. he is incredible.


Yeah, it's pretty funny. You're like some iconic ragemachine here, but a total sweetheart on somethingawful.

And there we go, that's what I was looking for! "Edge" as opposed to "GOD FANTASY COULD FONDLE A SUPER MODEL, PUNCH A NAZI, AND PLAY WITH HIS FEET RIGHT NOW AND RIP JAEDONG AND BISU APART IN A 1v2!"


i try to be a good representative of tl and starcraft outside of teamliquid itself


I'm on to your chicanery!
Remember Violet.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
May 12 2009 07:58 GMT
#403
Why is that Steve dodges me every time i adress him? (19th page)
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
May 12 2009 08:25 GMT
#404
On May 11 2009 21:59 raga4ka wrote:
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On May 11 2009 21:48 disciple wrote:
On May 11 2009 21:41 raga4ka wrote:
On May 11 2009 21:36 disciple wrote:
people have forgotten what makes a great player great.


hmm, really? I remember,like 2 years ago, Federer doing just enough to beat his opponents in the early stages of the tournaments. You see, he was doing nothing spectacular, yet he still seemed unbeatable by all these average guys. But when it was about a really important match in the further stages of the tournament Fed really started to push things. My point is what makes a great player great is the ability not to lose games, no matter how good or focused his play was. With that being said fantasy is just fireworks and candies atm, yes, he is entertaining but that doesnt make him the best player atm.


For once i agree with disciple .

lol :D I'm actually with you on most of the things you post with the exception of the stuff about Luxury. He sucks, man


This month he sucks , but i think he deserved his second place last month .


no...he did not.
hi
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 12 2009 09:11 GMT
#405
On May 12 2009 16:58 Geo.Rion wrote:
Why is that Steve dodges me every time i adress him? (19th page)


if i dont have time to write the power rank what makes you think i have time to write a detailed analysis of why specific games are amazing
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-12 09:43:43
May 12 2009 09:43 GMT
#406
On May 12 2009 18:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2009 16:58 Geo.Rion wrote:
Why is that Steve dodges me every time i adress him? (19th page)


if i dont have time to write the power rank what makes you think i have time to write a detailed analysis of why specific games are amazing


i only asked for naming 3 games, i dont even want to argue about it, i'd just liek to know what you think are fanta's best games...
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 12 2009 10:51 GMT
#407
if i do that all you're gonna do is watch them and point out every miniscule detail you think fantasy could have done better
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
May 12 2009 11:06 GMT
#408
To be fair, I'd also like to know which matches you saw the sparkle in, and not at all to be a pompous dick, I swear!
Remember Violet.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
May 12 2009 11:12 GMT
#409
On May 12 2009 19:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
if i do that all you're gonna do is watch them and point out every miniscule detail you think fantasy could have done better

I wont even say a word about any of them. Deal?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
May 12 2009 11:41 GMT
#410
2 loses vs 2 great wins. It's not that great imo
+ those loses were from the last 2 games
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-12 11:48:02
May 12 2009 11:47 GMT
#411
Also something else bothers me. Why on earth some of the people count JDs loses in a series against him. It's like saying: jeee, JD lost 2 games against fantasy (in the osl finals), while player X is with a 4-0 record.
I know that wining 2-1 isn`t the same thing as winin` 2-0, but it's still a win, so it shouldn`t count as a minus to the winner.
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 12 2009 22:48 GMT
#412
On May 12 2009 20:47 Jaeden wrote:
Also something else bothers me. Why on earth some of the people count JDs loses in a series against him. It's like saying: jeee, JD lost 2 games against fantasy (in the osl finals), while player X is with a 4-0 record.
I know that wining 2-1 isn`t the same thing as winin` 2-0, but it's still a win, so it shouldn`t count as a minus to the winner.

I don't think people are counting Jaedong dropping two games to Fantasy in a series against him, since 3-2 is 3-2 no matter how you look at it. But Fantasy winning 2 games in a series against Jaedong is definitely a plus to him.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
May 13 2009 01:03 GMT
#413
On May 13 2009 07:48 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2009 20:47 Jaeden wrote:
Also something else bothers me. Why on earth some of the people count JDs loses in a series against him. It's like saying: jeee, JD lost 2 games against fantasy (in the osl finals), while player X is with a 4-0 record.
I know that wining 2-1 isn`t the same thing as winin` 2-0, but it's still a win, so it shouldn`t count as a minus to the winner.

I don't think people are counting Jaedong dropping two games to Fantasy in a series against him, since 3-2 is 3-2 no matter how you look at it. But Fantasy winning 2 games in a series against Jaedong is definitely a plus to him.

QFT.

Jaeden you're just being biased although given your name/sig/country that is not surprising.
Peace~
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
May 13 2009 01:05 GMT
#414
Way to call someone out for no reason.
Jaedong
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
May 13 2009 01:06 GMT
#415
On May 13 2009 10:05 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Way to call someone out for no reason.

The reason was there because his statement made no sense, and it was because of his bias.
Peace~
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-13 01:16:01
May 13 2009 01:15 GMT
#416
It made sense, and everyone's biased, so what's your point? It was uncalled for.
Note how the other guy even agrees. And then you come along.
Jaedong
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
May 13 2009 01:42 GMT
#417
On May 13 2009 10:15 Avidkeystamper wrote:
It made sense, and everyone's biased, so what's your point? It was uncalled for.
Note how the other guy even agrees. And then you come along.

He didn't agree with him in any sense. He discounted his belief that people are holding 2 losses against Jaedong, and he said that it is a major plus to Fantasy. It's the butt-hurt mentality "my player is not number 1 because people are counting 2 losses to Fantasy fix please JD #1!!!!!"
Peace~
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
May 13 2009 02:33 GMT
#418
Bisu's been 8-1 since his last OSL loss. That 1 loss is cheese. How does Fantasy deserve a #1 spot over Bisu when Fantasy has been 6-2 since OSL finals? Bisu's games have been 1 sided lately as well (i.e. Bisu vs Calm)
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-13 02:46:51
May 13 2009 02:46 GMT
#419
Obviously, if you watched the games it should be obvious.
@ Fanta, you're right, but you don't have to call out every instance of bias, especially only against Jaedong supporters.
Jaedong
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
May 13 2009 02:51 GMT
#420
On May 13 2009 10:03 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2009 07:48 Sentenal wrote:
On May 12 2009 20:47 Jaeden wrote:
Also something else bothers me. Why on earth some of the people count JDs loses in a series against him. It's like saying: jeee, JD lost 2 games against fantasy (in the osl finals), while player X is with a 4-0 record.
I know that wining 2-1 isn`t the same thing as winin` 2-0, but it's still a win, so it shouldn`t count as a minus to the winner.

I don't think people are counting Jaedong dropping two games to Fantasy in a series against him, since 3-2 is 3-2 no matter how you look at it. But Fantasy winning 2 games in a series against Jaedong is definitely a plus to him.

QFT.

Jaeden you're just being biased although given your name/sig/country that is not surprising.


Did you seriously just say his bias comes from his country? How xenophobic can you fucking be dude.
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