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I voted for sAviOr because noone else has ever been as untouchable as he was in his prime. Sure, he dropped the odd game, but in the end he pulled through in the toughest of situations. Even nowadays I find myself watching Jaedong games and thinking "man, in sAviOr's prime those scourge wouldn't have missed/that drop wouldn't have landed/that defiler would have plagued before dying". Honestly, I know the level of play has gone up and I know that nowadays he's a shadow of his former self, but back in the day he was so fucking imbalanced it wasn't even funny.
Every single game he played he may has well have been looking at his opponents screen, from sending his overlord in the right direction right off the bat to randomly scouting a proxy in some godforsaken corner of the map.
Bunker rush? No chance. Proxy gate? Gtfo.
There was nothing that could faze this cold-hearted motherfucker.
Sure, oov was scary, but I believe that's only because he grasped the concepts of macro before anyone else had really thought about it. 27-0 is, of course, nothing to scoff at.
The only other player I can see contending as best player ever is NaDa. He's definitely the most accomplished player of all time, with one of only two Golden Mice and a list of accomplishments in TLPD that spans several pages :p He also shows amazing longevity and continues to take games from top players to this day.
Definitely sAviOr or NaDa for this one. I can't really see anyone else really being a contender.
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+ Show Spoiler +Bisu is arrogant. This is something I really liked about him actually, I was fully behind the "Bisu is a badass" wagon for the longest time. Yea I liked Savior but the new Sair/DT multitask way to crush zerg was amazing. The SC scene needs more personalities like Savior/Bisu/FBH that are arrogant because they KNOW they are good and can back up what they say by steamrolling everyone. FBH.. used to be able to steamroll anyway  The only issue a majority of people have with Bisu right now is the whole Bonjwa talk that gets annoying after the 5000th time of hearing it and that one interview where he became probably the first ever upper class player to actually complain about a map. He actually said "Yea I lost because of the maps..." ... He needs to redeem himself after that farce of a comment. Other than that Bisu is ok in my book and I like the guy. The Savior fanboyism is overboard too but the Bisu-Savior brigades are... really loud just gotta get used to that one
Odd how Flash/JD dominate so hard and still don't get swell-headed like FBH/Bisu. And Nada didnt exactly get all his titles by being a hard-ass.
Despite being a T player voted JD simply for the fireworks that his VODs and FPVODs display.
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Best player is kinda vauge question, Best results is nada Best player at the moment would be flash or JD Best player according to fans hearts is this sexy boy
Voted flash
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Voted Savior. Should be July.
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I just notice boxer losse almost 4 points of his carer win rate since he enter ACE XD
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Savior better not win this. That would irritate me.
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On February 23 2009 14:08 BreaK wrote: Honestly, this poll might as well be: "Who has the most fans out of all these players?"
I liked savior way more than JD, but I voted JD.
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On February 23 2009 14:03 Aurioch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2009 13:35 Avidkeystamper wrote: Bisu is arrogant. That is a fact that can be seen from his interviews, though they have improved recently. Savior lost to one person. You can't generalize that into "random A-class players". That's an overstatement. And Savior isn't? Boldly claiming he'll destroy everyone in 2009, in my book, that's call being over your head and overestimating yourself.
i see it more as making a promise with his foreign fans than arrogant.
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It is a crime that Reach isn't on the list.
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Lol what a flame bait poll.
Can the next one be Best Race Ever? Or maybe a "Wii, 360, PS3?" kinda poll?
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Sorry but Nada hsa been around how long and can still innovate while hanging tough? Boxer might have started it all, but we're talking quality of skill here. Probably Jaedong or Flash should get the prize, but for consistency's sake, Nada.
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Best? If you are talking about the best as in highest level, I would say Jaedong or Flash. Flash has much better decision making than Jaedong imo, like the video I saw where he reduces the troop to go defend at his main's drop so he can prevent possible future simutaneous drop at nat. This compared to Jaedong's poor decision to go guardians and hydras verse mass tanks and goliaths.
On the other hand, Jaedong has been fighting an uphill battle, killing Terrans left and right on recent trend of maps where T>Z, or just the simple historical age of starcraft unfair scene where T>Z ever since the age of Boxer.
But oov has been the most dominant, but I don't see him as a best player in the present ofc.
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On February 23 2009 15:08 Sentenal wrote: It is a crime that Reach isn't on the list.
OR JULY IS 5 OSL FINALS NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE A LIST ; ;
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On February 23 2009 14:21 JFKWT wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Bisu is arrogant. This is something I really liked about him actually, I was fully behind the "Bisu is a badass" wagon for the longest time. Yea I liked Savior but the new Sair/DT multitask way to crush zerg was amazing. The SC scene needs more personalities like Savior/Bisu/FBH that are arrogant because they KNOW they are good and can back up what they say by steamrolling everyone. FBH.. used to be able to steamroll anyway  The only issue a majority of people have with Bisu right now is the whole Bonjwa talk that gets annoying after the 5000th time of hearing it and that one interview where he became probably the first ever upper class player to actually complain about a map. He actually said "Yea I lost because of the maps..." ... He needs to redeem himself after that farce of a comment. Other than that Bisu is ok in my book and I like the guy. The Savior fanboyism is overboard too but the Bisu-Savior brigades are... really loud just gotta get used to that one Odd how Flash/JD dominate so hard and still don't get swell-headed like FBH/Bisu. And Nada didnt exactly get all his titles by being a hard-ass. Despite being a T player voted JD simply for the fireworks that his VODs and FPVODs display.
Nada does ceremonies still, they are funny as hell when he's brave enough to do them. It isn't so much arrogant in that you have to belittle other players but in the sense that they actually know they are good and they aren't actually afraid to show it. It gives the scene some drama and rivalries that a big sport outlet needs to survive. Being humble all the time just strikes me as a bit uhh.. wrong...
Flash used to be like that actually, he would "yawn" rape people so hard it wasn't even funny. He used to be do whatever he wanted to do build wise and he would win somehow. He could be 3 bases behind against rock and somehow pull 24 goliaths out of his ass and win. Flash fell from grace shortly because he started to 14CC every game. No Terran goes 3 starport against a progamer Zerg without the intention to completely humiliate them. At one point in May Flash was so bored with playing standard that it seemed like he would roll a dice to see what build he would play that day, be it MnM against protoss or any assorted other off the wall crap.. and he'd win with it.
In fact, I'd be brave enough to say that if Flash were on any other team that had some talent to back him up in proleague he would be far and away the best player anyone has ever seen. He combines Saviors game sense with impeccable macro and micro, his schedule just kills him. He would have been the next bonjwa, of that I have no doubt at all, even given the skill level of gamers today.
I've never really considered Jaedong at that level myself. S-Class?, one of the best zergs of all time? Easily, without a doubt, but he does not come to mind when I think of best player of all time.
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boxer would get my vote anyway but I'm shocked by the absence of a certain golden mouse winner
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If you don't say Nada you must be misreading the history.
EDIT: IF; this poll means highest skill someone has had at a single moment of time (closest to playing a perfect game) then it would be savior I think.
else Nada.
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Uhh... Reach? Help?
Even if I probably would autovote Boxer in a poll with no specified context, it would still be nice to have the second best SC/BW player ever at least represented as a goddamn choice.
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