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Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
February 23 2009 11:14 GMT
#141
The only objective way to measure 'best' is by looking at accomplishments so I voted (T)NaDa.

No (Z)July in the poll is a damn shame though.
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
February 23 2009 11:19 GMT
#142
Boxer autovote =)
the courage to be a lazy bum
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
February 23 2009 11:21 GMT
#143
The one person closest to ever playing a perfect game has to be savior.
The best player throughout the history of SC has to be nada.
The most brilliant player has to be boxer.
The most dominant player has to be oov.
The most mechanically skilled player yet has to be bisu or flash.
screw this poll, i'm not even voting :s
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 23 2009 11:26 GMT
#144
On February 23 2009 20:08 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
savior is the most overrated bonjwa ever. He abused the old MSL format like a smartass, but always failed to perform in osl/wcg (until shinhan osl, the only osl in which he performed well).


"Overrated bonjwa" is quite the contradiction in terms, don't you think?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 23 2009 11:27 GMT
#145
Boxer never loses a poll
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
February 23 2009 11:30 GMT
#146
"Best skill-wise (as in, if you took any player in their prime and matched them up)?" Jaedong.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 11:41:56
February 23 2009 11:40 GMT
#147
Putting Boxer in this poll was a big mistake...

Maybe you should have waited and thrown him into a poll like '' who is the greatest Starcraft Icon of all times ? '' ..

It makes me kinda sad how this poll is going now.. ;(

I dont want to be harsh or anything, but Boxer even though he might be EVERYTHING in SC/BW he does never deserve the 1st place for something being called '' best ''

I dont have a clue how people can have the opinion Jeadong or Savior should be above bisu. Please explain it to me, thx !

I dont have a clue how oov is so low. It's ridicolous..

I dont have a clue how NaDa can not be at nr.1 spot.

Make this post again without Boxer.. and all the Boxer fan boys wont go by the brain, but again by there heart. Which would be absolutely okey for a poll you can answer with your 'heart'.. like ' who do you like best'' or '' who is the most charismatic '' but not '' who is the best player ever ''


If we go by the best player in terms of raw skill, I dont know how anyone can decide who is the pick then.. I would really like to know how you want to explain why savior, flash or jeadong should be above bisu. When bisu is right now raping left and right and doing amazingly. Savior at one time was untouchable, but so was oov. He is last places wtf !?

Seriously.. All players except nada,boxer and oov and ( maybe ) savior are kinda to ''new'' to the scene..

And Boxer is almost something like Giyom Patry.. who is almost too oldschool to deserve being called '' the best ''


Due to Boxers name appearing this poll was already doomed from the beginning
hatred outlives the hateful
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
February 23 2009 11:56 GMT
#148
Well we can't really blame the Boxer autovote, he revolutionized how Terran was used, then made comebacks a little less than NaDa, but the difference was Boxer had a lot of creativity with his comebacks. NaDa on the other hand, just showed his pure Tornado style.

The word "best" is really hard to quantify because of it's abstractness in nature.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
P_King
Profile Joined February 2006
Russian Federation363 Posts
February 23 2009 12:01 GMT
#149
In terms of results: Savior
In terms of overall influence on the progaming scene: Boxer
Voted Savior though...
[Oops]Reach-gogogo :)
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
February 23 2009 12:16 GMT
#150
I love how a lot of people are so sure of their vote when they probably haven't even been around for more than 3 years.

NaDa's not consistent? Really? He's qualified for 13 of 17 starleagues since he began in Panasonic OGN 2002. He's also qualified for 16 of 19 MSLs since he began. Along with his 6 first place wins (not counting special tournaments like KT-KTF where he went 16-1 and KT-KTF2 where he got third) he's also got five 2nd place finishers and other third place finishers.

He may not always win but he's ALWAYS a threat.

I also have to echo Phil's statements because most of you who chose Boxer did so merely because he's your favorite player not because he's the best player ever. Bisu/Flash/Jaedong are far too new to truly be a candidate for best player of all time.

Truly, NaDa has been here for a long time and he's continued to show up in leagues and do decently well. Oov is gone along with that period of dominance he had, Savior is only now making a slight comeback (we'll see after the dust settles). And yeah, JulyZerg should be in the poll.

Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
February 23 2009 12:26 GMT
#151
Voted Nada. Can't deny his longevity.

Also i hope Lukeeze shuts up one day.
sAviOr...
I_L_Jl
Profile Joined January 2009
United States225 Posts
February 23 2009 12:41 GMT
#152
The winner of any poll with Boxer in it that isn't titled "greatest icon" or "greatest influence" is the "number 2" imo, which looks like either Savior or Nada, neither one of which I have a problem with.
Chameleon
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States604 Posts
February 23 2009 13:32 GMT
#153
OMG wheretf is Pokju!!!!
TL's #1 Horang2 fan
morfyy
Profile Joined May 2007
Romania593 Posts
February 23 2009 13:41 GMT
#154
boxer hm...
Mista
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore1022 Posts
February 23 2009 13:45 GMT
#155
How come iloveoov not top3 =<
Time for some Revolution !
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
February 23 2009 13:50 GMT
#156
why is there any content to this. Boxer is in a poll, that's all.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1305 Posts
February 23 2009 13:52 GMT
#157
27-0

beat that.
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
Dataleif
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden252 Posts
February 23 2009 14:06 GMT
#158
Boxer but was considering jaedong as well.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
February 23 2009 14:07 GMT
#159
vague, but has to be boxer. he revolutionized the game so that it could become what it is today.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
February 23 2009 14:22 GMT
#160
Hard choice, voted Nada
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