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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
February 23 2009 14:26 GMT
#161
boxer. i like that bisu was on this poll though.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 14:35:03
February 23 2009 14:30 GMT
#162
6% for iloveoov? wtf?

On February 23 2009 20:21 GinNtoniC wrote:
The one person closest to ever playing a perfect game has to be savior.
The best player throughout the history of SC has to be nada.
The most brilliant player has to be boxer.
The most dominant player has to be oov.
The most mechanically skilled player yet has to be bisu or flash.
screw this poll, i'm not even voting :s


very true indeed ^^
though i did vote for nada..
beep boop
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
February 23 2009 14:43 GMT
#163
On February 23 2009 23:30 7mk wrote:
6% for iloveoov? wtf?

Show nested quote +
On February 23 2009 20:21 GinNtoniC wrote:
The one person closest to ever playing a perfect game has to be savior.
The best player throughout the history of SC has to be nada.
The most brilliant player has to be boxer.
The most dominant player has to be oov.
The most mechanically skilled player yet has to be bisu or flash.
screw this poll, i'm not even voting :s


very true indeed ^^
though i did vote for nada..


I honestly think that Iloveoov's domination was more of a product of figuring out macro before anyone else did. Granted, he had amazing control to go with this but I don't know, he was bonjwa for sure I just don't know about best player of all time. It's almost like he was picking on little kids that didnt know better
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1302 Posts
February 23 2009 14:51 GMT
#164
I think for every definition of "best" i would choose differently in that poll. But the heart/mind combo falls for oov (:
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
Batisterio-PiB
Profile Joined August 2007
Brazil219 Posts
February 23 2009 14:55 GMT
#165
The Best Player in relative skill is without a doubt Oov....come on 27-0...thats why he is the cheater! In results, nada for sure....
In charisma, BOXER....
In absolute skill, Bisu (because he is the best now...)
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 15:02:44
February 23 2009 14:59 GMT
#166
basicaly thats all right.

BUT dont you realize we are asking for the best player ever ?
What has charisma to do with it ? Make a poll about the most charismatic player ever and i agree with boxer being first. But in this poll.. its just stupidity.. and with all the blind boxer lovers out there we really have to begin to let him out of polls. Granted we want to have serious results...

Bisu might be the best player in terms of skill.. Oov was the most dominant.. that IS DIFFERENT from being the best EVER..

but Im done with this poll.. basicaly every person is voting for the player he likes the most. Otherwise I cant explain how Boxer is leading heavily at first place..

I personally am a big Bisu fan but i voted NaDa.. because this poll was not '' WHO IS YOUR FAVOURITE PRO GAMER ? '' BUT WHO IS THE BEST EVER..

could all those boxer fans once be honest to themselves.. =(
hatred outlives the hateful
kingrat
Profile Joined September 2003
Bulgaria60 Posts
February 23 2009 15:08 GMT
#167
voted boxer.

realistically though, it's + Show Spoiler +
boxer
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
February 23 2009 15:13 GMT
#168
Boxer never was best player ever. Even was not close. Other players are candidate for best player. But not Boxer.He never was dominant player too.Boxer is a just symbol of StarCraft.
Best player ever-----------> Savior.
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
February 23 2009 15:13 GMT
#169
Jaedong/Flash, I voted Jaedong cause hes zerg!. I am a relatively new watcher of Starcraft, so all I ever saw BoxeR do was lose horribly!
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
February 23 2009 15:16 GMT
#170
Savior..


well it depends on the situation...

and theyre from different eras
fromis_9 enjoyer
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
February 23 2009 15:23 GMT
#171
On February 23 2009 20:08 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
savior is the most overrated bonjwa ever. He abused the old MSL format like a smartass, but always failed to perform in osl/wcg (until shinhan osl, the only osl in which he performed well).


well yeah because shinhan osl was the first osl he entered?
im gay
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
February 23 2009 15:32 GMT
#172
Who isnt voting NaDa?!
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
February 23 2009 15:35 GMT
#173
On February 23 2009 23:59 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
BUT dont you realize we are asking for the best player ever ?
(blah blah blah)
but Im done with this poll.. basicaly every person is voting for the player he likes the most. Otherwise I cant explain how Boxer is leading heavily at first place..
(blah blah blah)
could all those boxer fans once be honest to themselves.. =(


Boxer IS the best player ever.
Best is of course subject to personal preference, but what it means is clear:
The greatest, the most desirable.

If you could have ONE progamer and ONE only, which would you have?
The answer is INEXPLICABLY simple for me.
Boxer defined pro-gaming. Most of the people on this site (including myself) got into progaming purely because of Boxer. He inspired SO many people. Without Boxer who knows, we may not even have a pro-scene like we do today. He played with such genius and entertainment, suddenly the world was watching this guy and they loved every minute of it.
Even now people want interviews with Boxer, they want to see his photographs, they want to see him win games.

There's a reason he wins these polls; it's not magic... phil.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
February 23 2009 16:06 GMT
#174
BoxeR ... isnt that obvious ? O_o
T H C makes ppl happy
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
February 23 2009 16:13 GMT
#175
it's probably iloveoov, Boxer deserves to win tho
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 16:52:14
February 23 2009 16:48 GMT
#176
On February 24 2009 00:35 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2009 23:59 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
BUT dont you realize we are asking for the best player ever ?
(blah blah blah)
but Im done with this poll.. basicaly every person is voting for the player he likes the most. Otherwise I cant explain how Boxer is leading heavily at first place..
(blah blah blah)
could all those boxer fans once be honest to themselves.. =(


Boxer IS the best player ever.
Best is of course subject to personal preference, but what it means is clear:
The greatest, the most desirable.

If you could have ONE progamer and ONE only, which would you have?
The answer is INEXPLICABLY simple for me.
Boxer defined pro-gaming. Most of the people on this site (including myself) got into progaming purely because of Boxer. He inspired SO many people. Without Boxer who knows, we may not even have a pro-scene like we do today. He played with such genius and entertainment, suddenly the world was watching this guy and they loved every minute of it.
Even now people want interviews with Boxer, they want to see his photographs, they want to see him win games.

There's a reason he wins these polls; it's not magic... phil.




Boxer defined pro gaming. He got most people on this site into progaming. He inspired so many peple. Even now people want interviews with him and photographs ( blah blah blah )..


do you realize that all the things you mentioned have NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE POLL's question who the best player ever is ?

Are you stupid ? Serious question. Just read the bullshit you just wrote again. Maybe twice ? There is a REASON he wins these polls; it's not magic... it's stupid people like you who cant look beyond there horizont. Who probably dont have the ability to understand that THE BEST does not mean alle the things you just brought up in your post.

If they ask for the most charsimatic, the most important, the most liked, the most well known, the biggest starcraft legend ect.. you are right..


And what best means is indeed clear. It does not mean any thing u mentioned there. It means
the biggest success, how long the person did how good, it means how many leagues that person won, it means how dominant he was at certain times, it means how many games he won and lost, it means in what fashion he won and lost, it means to lesser extent, how well his games were played and things who get more and more subjective and leave the facts and figures..

I dont like to flame people but you just asked for it.

There is a reason why boxer is so far ahead. It's because many hardcore fans vote for boxer whenever he appears in a poll. Moreover most of these probably dont even read the poll. And if they did, many again did not understand what the poll was asking for.


my opinion:

Best player ever : NaDa

Most skillfull player ever: Savior,Jd,Flash,Bisu ( dunno .. )

Most important gamer / 'greatest' / 'biggest legend' : Boxer


But dont tell me the reason boxer wins this poll is the fact that he is the best player ever..


hatred outlives the hateful
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
February 23 2009 16:55 GMT
#177
Chill out guys. This poll is subjective and depends on how you define best. Don't kid yourselves into thinking that most of the votes weren't "who is your favorite player" and stop trying to change the results.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
February 23 2009 17:09 GMT
#178
6 badges...ggnore
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Snare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Trinidad/Tobago129 Posts
February 23 2009 17:10 GMT
#179
Bisu
Something that leads one into a place or situation from which escape is difficult. 이제동 <3
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
February 23 2009 17:10 GMT
#180
(P)BeSt is obviously the answer
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