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nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
February 23 2009 17:14 GMT
#181
July, he raped OOv when he was 27-0 many times, being like a FBH to Savior. He won another OSL after 4 years.
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
February 23 2009 17:17 GMT
#182
80% in 3 match ups in his prime time no argue
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
February 23 2009 17:25 GMT
#183
Nada
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
February 23 2009 17:43 GMT
#184
what is the definition of best?
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
February 23 2009 18:20 GMT
#185
Nada.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 18:25:54
February 23 2009 18:25 GMT
#186
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 24 2009 01:48 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2009 00:35 Klive5ive wrote:
On February 23 2009 23:59 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
BUT dont you realize we are asking for the best player ever ?
(blah blah blah)
but Im done with this poll.. basicaly every person is voting for the player he likes the most. Otherwise I cant explain how Boxer is leading heavily at first place..
(blah blah blah)
could all those boxer fans once be honest to themselves.. =(


Boxer IS the best player ever.
Best is of course subject to personal preference, but what it means is clear:
The greatest, the most desirable.

If you could have ONE progamer and ONE only, which would you have?
The answer is INEXPLICABLY simple for me.
Boxer defined pro-gaming. Most of the people on this site (including myself) got into progaming purely because of Boxer. He inspired SO many people. Without Boxer who knows, we may not even have a pro-scene like we do today. He played with such genius and entertainment, suddenly the world was watching this guy and they loved every minute of it.
Even now people want interviews with Boxer, they want to see his photographs, they want to see him win games.

There's a reason he wins these polls; it's not magic... phil.




Boxer defined pro gaming. He got most people on this site into progaming. He inspired so many peple. Even now people want interviews with him and photographs ( blah blah blah )..


do you realize that all the things you mentioned have NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE POLL's question who the best player ever is ?

Are you stupid ? Serious question. Just read the bullshit you just wrote again. Maybe twice ? There is a REASON he wins these polls; it's not magic... it's stupid people like you who cant look beyond there horizont. Who probably dont have the ability to understand that THE BEST does not mean alle the things you just brought up in your post.

If they ask for the most charsimatic, the most important, the most liked, the most well known, the biggest starcraft legend ect.. you are right..


And what best means is indeed clear. It does not mean any thing u mentioned there. It means
the biggest success, how long the person did how good, it means how many leagues that person won, it means how dominant he was at certain times, it means how many games he won and lost, it means in what fashion he won and lost, it means to lesser extent, how well his games were played and things who get more and more subjective and leave the facts and figures..

I dont like to flame people but you just asked for it.

There is a reason why boxer is so far ahead. It's because many hardcore fans vote for boxer whenever he appears in a poll. Moreover most of these probably dont even read the poll. And if they did, many again did not understand what the poll was asking for.


my opinion:

Best player ever : NaDa

Most skillfull player ever: Savior,Jd,Flash,Bisu ( dunno .. )

Most important gamer / 'greatest' / 'biggest legend' : Boxer


But dont tell me the reason boxer wins this poll is the fact that he is the best player ever..



Thank for defining what the best means. Because it's completely up to interpretation and your opinion is no more valid than his.
Jaedong
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
February 23 2009 18:29 GMT
#187

On February 23 2009 23:59 MaGic~PhiL wrote:

If they ask for the most charsimatic, the most important, the most liked, the most well known, the biggest starcraft legend ect.. you are right..

And what best means is indeed clear. It does not mean any thing u mentioned there. It means
the biggest success, how long the person did how good, it means how many leagues that person won, it means how dominant he was at certain times, it means how many games he won and lost, it means in what fashion he won and lost, it means to lesser extent, how well his games were played and things who get more and more subjective and leave the facts and figures..



You just contridict yourself massively it's pretty funny.
You don't actually understand what best means.

Best can be defined by "the most desirable" (look it up in a dictionary if you disagree).
Now if it said "The most desirable player ever" then would you agree Boxer was a sensible choice?

When you ask a group of people who "the best" is. It does essentially become a popularity contest. Because if someone is the most popular...they are the most liked....the most desirable... the best.

Who wins "Best Actor" at the Oscars... the most popular Actor among the voters.

You have every right to disagree with him being "the best", but you can never quantify what "the best" is and therefore insist that one person is the wrong choice!
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
February 23 2009 18:33 GMT
#188
WHAT THE FUCK????

WHERE IS REACH ?

i won't vote until Reach is in there !
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
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Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
February 23 2009 18:35 GMT
#189
On February 24 2009 03:29 Klive5ive wrote:
You have every right to disagree with him being "the best", but you can never quantify what "the best" is and therefore insist that one person is the wrong choice!

I have to agree with this.

My vote went for Flash, partially because a lot of other progamers feel the same way about his play and game sense.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
Batisterio-PiB
Profile Joined August 2007
Brazil219 Posts
February 23 2009 18:39 GMT
#190
On February 24 2009 02:14 nK)Duke wrote:
July, he raped OOv when he was 27-0 many times, being like a FBH to Savior. He won another OSL after 4 years.


July won in the semis 3-2 and end the streak, but it wasnt a rape! And July lost a final 3-0 to oov and all time is 13-12 in oovs favor.
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 18:43:44
February 23 2009 18:43 GMT
#191
Yeah, why ISN'T JulyZerg in this poll? He won the Golden Mouse. It's not often that someone wins 3 Starleague titles... >_>

While it's true that accomplishments don't imply the best, I think they should still be a FACTOR in at least determining who belongs on the poll.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
February 23 2009 19:04 GMT
#192
everyone knows that jaedong is an insane zerg player.
but does his record really warant on the list more than July?
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
February 23 2009 19:20 GMT
#193
BoxeR
O_o
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
February 23 2009 19:33 GMT
#194
Now Bisu, Ever - Nada
750/750 emotions fully stacked
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
February 23 2009 19:37 GMT
#195
On February 23 2009 23:30 7mk wrote:
6% for iloveoov? wtf?

Show nested quote +
On February 23 2009 20:21 GinNtoniC wrote:
The one person closest to ever playing a perfect game has to be savior.
The best player throughout the history of SC has to be nada.
The most brilliant player has to be boxer.
The most dominant player has to be oov.
The most mechanically skilled player yet has to be bisu or flash.
screw this poll, i'm not even voting :s


very true indeed ^^
though i did vote for nada..


I agree about that being true aswell and thus i did vote nada...

"The best player throughout the history of SC has to be nada." His achivments == insane
Yizuo
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1537 Posts
February 23 2009 19:43 GMT
#196
idra
Kizlyk
Profile Joined December 2007
Ukraine84 Posts
February 23 2009 20:00 GMT
#197
lol at the current results - i can understand boxer's first place but savior over all others and oov last? c'mon
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
February 23 2009 20:08 GMT
#198
I took this poll to mean the player who has the best overall skill, and since progaming is theoretically always improving, I went with Flash. Even though my heart told me to vote Bisu.
Super serious.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 20:16:11
February 23 2009 20:15 GMT
#199
Best player ever in all kinds of skill put together: Flash

Greatest dominance: Iloveoov

Greatest play over whole career: Nada (Flash would he higher I guess but Nada deserves it since he played for like 10 years ^^)

Greatest legend of E-sport and Starcraft: Boxer

Voted Boxer.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
February 23 2009 20:30 GMT
#200
On February 24 2009 05:15 Zoler wrote:
Best player ever in all kinds of skill put together: Flash

Greatest dominance: Iloveoov

Greatest play over whole career: Nada (Flash would he higher I guess but Nada deserves it since he played for like 10 years ^^)

Greatest legend of E-sport and Starcraft: Boxer

Voted Boxer.


flawed logics. The players who debuted most recently having like 1-0 would have a 100% perfect career thus beating Flash.


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