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TheAZNChineseTiger
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada92 Posts
February 24 2009 00:50 GMT
#221
yeah
they might become like Boxer in the future though

but I doubt it
there's only one SlayerS_BoxeR
SlayerS_`BoxeR` FTW
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-24 01:05:49
February 24 2009 00:55 GMT
#222
Boxer autovote.

This poll is so much easier if you just look at the choices and ignore the question.

For those that say Bisu doesn't belong, IMO he's just as appropriate here as Jaedong (I don't think either should be in this poll).

Biggest impact on the pro scene - Boxer
Strongest long-term play - Nada
Most dominant streak ever - Oov
Most dominant in recent times - Flash
Current strongest player - Bisu (but by a small enough margin that you can't say its a valid measure)

Can someone tell my by what criteria Jaedong might be evaluated as best?
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TheAZNChineseTiger
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada92 Posts
February 24 2009 01:01 GMT
#223
lol

hey look,
Bisu went up another percent.....................
SlayerS_`BoxeR` FTW
Oedi
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada265 Posts
February 24 2009 01:07 GMT
#224
auto vote boxer
TheAZNChineseTiger
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada92 Posts
February 24 2009 01:09 GMT
#225
i agree
SlayerS_`BoxeR` FTW
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
February 24 2009 01:09 GMT
#226
On February 24 2009 09:34 TheAZNChineseTiger wrote:
lol
All of them are very good players.
Bisu is absolutely incredible.
Jaedong is a machine.
sAviOr was unbeatable at his peak.
Flash is awesome, but young.
iloveoov has revolutionized the Terran macro.

But Boxer cannot be unthroned.
He was ranked 1st for 17 months, a record that lasts to this day.
He influenced so many ppl to pick Terran and mentored some of its best (Nada and iloveoov).
He gave up his life for Starcraft.
He is a legend amoung the community.

But above all, he makes his games fun to watch.
He does proxy so many times and was one of the only ones to ever use Ghosts.
lol
And he's got the most pimpest plays XD

Long live the Emperor!!!!!!!!!!
lol


So true... Close this we have our best player pick =D
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
TheAZNChineseTiger
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada92 Posts
February 24 2009 01:19 GMT
#227
can anyone tell me who was Nada?
SlayerS_`BoxeR` FTW
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
February 24 2009 01:23 GMT
#228
On February 24 2009 10:19 TheAZNChineseTiger wrote:
can anyone tell me who was Nada?

I hope you're trolling...
Graphics
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13336 Posts
February 24 2009 01:27 GMT
#229
Oov. Others have come close, but I don't think any have matched the aura Oov had when he was at his peak. Savior 2nd, Nada 3rd.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TheAZNChineseTiger
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada92 Posts
February 24 2009 01:27 GMT
#230
no really

i actually don't know a lot about him

I think he held a record for something.......................
and he uses Terran as well
he was pretty dominant

but is he retired right now?
or is he still playing
SlayerS_`BoxeR` FTW
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-24 01:39:26
February 24 2009 01:34 GMT
#231
wow 30 posts already and you dont know who nada is ^^

he's the most succesful player ever, holds 3 osl and 3 msl titles and no he's not retired hes still top 30 in kespa ranking and still in the lost saga msl

LOL and yet you make comments like
" yeah
they might become like Boxer in the future though

but I doubt it
there's only one SlayerS_BoxeR"
acting like youve been around forever

and wtf you say
"He influenced so many ppl to pick Terran and mentored some of its best (Nada and iloveoov)."

???
beep boop
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
February 24 2009 01:59 GMT
#232
how can you guys say anybody other than oov is the best sc player ever. leader of the macro revolution, he is the only man to have gone 27-0 in any matchup. comeon, think about it. we consider any player a god at a matchup if they go 8-0 in it, imagine 27-0. he just destroyed people, was a dominant and consistent MSL contender, fought back the OSL curse, and has one of the most championship victories in history. he was so good he almost ruined starcraft.

the best starcraft player is oov. at his peak, he set a new bar (check out his elo peak which was set at a time before the new 9001 game a week schedule) in starcraft progaming. even from a sideline role as a coach (before he became a player-coach) he impacted the starcraft world by creating the fantasy build (which should be called oov build btw). he indirectly caused the new mech TvZ trend that we hate so much now. nobody has had more impact on starcraft than iloveoov, whether it be revolutionary build orders or revolutionary macro, and nobody has been more successful. oov is the greatest player, and it is a shame that he is ranked last on this poll.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 24 2009 02:08 GMT
#233
FlaSh is the most skilled player of all-time, but overall BoxeR is the best and most important player.

Can't believe Bisu/Jaedong are above Iloveoov though.
RIP Aaliyah
TheAZNChineseTiger
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada92 Posts
February 24 2009 02:15 GMT
#234
7mk;
"He influenced so many ppl to pick Terran and mentored some of its best (Nada and iloveoov)."
I said that because I read it somewhere that Boxer influenced Nada and iloveoov. I think it was WIkipedia. lol. I only knew a little about Nada, not a whole lot.
thx for the description though!!
SlayerS_`BoxeR` FTW
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
February 24 2009 02:33 GMT
#235
obv nada............ This site has way more boxer fanboys then i thought
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
February 24 2009 02:42 GMT
#236
Jaedong above Flash and oov? This poll is pure fanboyism right?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-24 02:59:43
February 24 2009 02:59 GMT
#237
On February 24 2009 10:59 redtooth wrote:
how can you guys say anybody other than oov is the best sc player ever. leader of the macro revolution, he is the only man to have gone 27-0 in any matchup. comeon, think about it. we consider any player a god at a matchup if they go 8-0 in it, imagine 27-0. he just destroyed people, was a dominant and consistent MSL contender, fought back the OSL curse, and has one of the most championship victories in history. he was so good he almost ruined starcraft.

the best starcraft player is oov. at his peak, he set a new bar (check out his elo peak which was set at a time before the new 9001 game a week schedule) in starcraft progaming. even from a sideline role as a coach (before he became a player-coach) he impacted the starcraft world by creating the fantasy build (which should be called oov build btw). he indirectly caused the new mech TvZ trend that we hate so much now. nobody has had more impact on starcraft than iloveoov, whether it be revolutionary build orders or revolutionary macro, and nobody has been more successful. oov is the greatest player, and it is a shame that he is ranked last on this poll.


Because that's one way of defining the best player. He was the most dominant player of his time. He's not the most dominant nowadays, which is another way you might define best. He's also not the most consistent, which is yet another way to define best.

I agree though, he shouldn't be last. Definitely should be ahead of Bisu and Jaedong at least. Boxer deserves #1, not because he's best, but because everyone autovotes him in TL polls.
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eazo
Profile Joined March 2008
United States530 Posts
February 24 2009 03:35 GMT
#238
Boxer, but i think thats a little biased.
TheAZNChineseTiger
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada92 Posts
February 24 2009 03:52 GMT
#239
what's biased about it?
SlayerS_`BoxeR` FTW
yoofor
Profile Joined December 2007
United States143 Posts
February 24 2009 03:58 GMT
#240
damn, I cant find tossgirl in there
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