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On February 24 2009 03:43 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Yeah, why ISN'T JulyZerg in this poll? He won the Golden Mouse. It's not often that someone wins 3 Starleague titles... >_>
While it's true that accomplishments don't imply the best, I think they should still be a FACTOR in at least determining who belongs on the poll.
From what i heard he doesn't have enough overall wins to even be put in the mix which i find retarded. I believe the god of war should atleast be mentioned in this argument.
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On February 24 2009 11:15 TheAZNChineseTiger wrote:7mk; "He influenced so many ppl to pick Terran and mentored some of its best (Nada and iloveoov)." I said that because I read it somewhere that Boxer influenced Nada and iloveoov. I think it was WIkipedia. lol. I only knew a little about Nada, not a whole lot. thx for the description though!! 
Well yea he certainly was iloveoov's mentor, which is pretty funny because now technically iloveoov is boxers coach on SKT1
didn't know about him and Nada though, also seems a little odd since they never were in the same team (except of course just for the way that Boxer influenced every terran back then) but maybe thats just my lack of knowledge
mh and yeah screw reach and july, why is tossgirl missing? O_o
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Jaedong.
Simple reason being that when he peaks, he plays at the highest level the game has ever seen.
Peak Jaedong > any other player at any time (definitely including Flash and Bisu).
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Interpreted the poll question to mean "best in terms of raw skill", so I picked Bisu. Same pick if I interpret it in terms of changing the game in ways people wouldn't have thought possible. (Of course Boxer contributed more to SC strategy, but he did it when there was still a lot to be worked out. Bisu did it after the strats had become more or less stable, and consequently improvisation had become a lot harder.)
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United States17042 Posts
On February 24 2009 13:28 GeLaar wrote:
Interpreted the poll question to mean "best in terms of raw skill", so I picked Bisu. Same pick if I interpret it in terms of changing the game in ways people wouldn't have thought possible. (Of course Boxer contributed more to SC strategy, but he did it when there was still a lot to be worked out. Bisu did it after the strats had become more or less stable, and consequently improvisation had become a lot harder.)
by the second measure, inter.mind should be on the list as well -_-;; Sair/dt and forge first had been done before bisu
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On February 24 2009 13:47 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
by the second measure, inter.mind should be on the list as well -_-;; Sair/dt and forge first had been done before bisu
I certainly don't think Bisu's contribution was limited to a build order. He turned around the balance of a match-up with his style of play. Others, who, as you've pointed out, used similar build orders, were unable to achieve anything close to the same effect.
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On February 24 2009 13:23 mark718 wrote:
Jaedong.
Simple reason being that when he peaks, he plays at the highest level the game has ever seen.
Peak Jaedong > any other player at any time (definitely including Flash and Bisu).
I dunno, FlaSh when he peaks is nigh unstoppable...
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NaDa obviously. He has the most titles of any pro gamer, was absolutely dominant in his prime (like a lot of the players on this list), and he's been competitive for the longest period of time of any pro gamer.
Also, WTF at Oov being at the bottom of the list. He's accomplished a fuckload more than Jaedong, Bisu, or Flash. None of these kids even come close to the greatness that was prime Ilooveoov.
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On February 24 2009 09:15 Flamboyant wrote:
Boxer is overrated, Savior is in his slump and will never recover, Bisu is shining and it's limelight, Nada is boring and focuses on long games rather than interesting and entertaining ones, iloveoov is a hasbeen....meh
please kill yourself
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...crap boxer is the best starcraft player of all time
but voted nade b/c hes sexy
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Boxer always wins every poll
He wasn't as dominant as oov but he did have the most impact on starcraft.
For that I'm grateful. But his fanboys are getting out of hand
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Voted nada due to accomplishments and also an impressive win ratio for such a long career.
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On February 24 2009 13:15 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2009 11:15 TheAZNChineseTiger wrote:7mk; "He influenced so many ppl to pick Terran and mentored some of its best (Nada and iloveoov)." I said that because I read it somewhere that Boxer influenced Nada and iloveoov. I think it was WIkipedia. lol. I only knew a little about Nada, not a whole lot. thx for the description though!! didn't know about him and Nada though, also seems a little odd since they never were in the same team
NaDa and Boxer were on Ideal Space together but I'd hardly call Boxer NaDa's mentor.
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Bisu of course.The level of skilled players is so much higher now and Bisu is steamrolling everyone.
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the best is the most successful imo
NaDa~
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oov at the bottom of the list hurts ;(. go away fan boys =(
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On February 23 2009 08:44 LosingID8 wrote:
poll is tough to answer due to the vagueness of the question. if you look at it from the perspective that progamers are always getting better so therefore whoever is dominating right now should get the vote then i guess i would vote for bisu or flash.
however i'm looking at it holistically. who is the most successful progamer? who is the winningest progamer? who is ALWAYS a competitor and also qualifies for starleagues (with the rare exception of a couple seasons) since 2002? who is the player who came back from a complete slump into a full-blown comeback winning an OSL, getting 2nd in the next OSL and then winning shinhan masters?
to me the choice is simple.
nada.
This, Nada is the most successful player over a period of nearly 7 years, so that would have to have it, or it would just all be opinion.
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boxer put sc on the map for me and for many others, thus he gets my vote
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On February 24 2009 13:01 eatmyshorts5 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2009 03:43 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Yeah, why ISN'T JulyZerg in this poll? He won the Golden Mouse. It's not often that someone wins 3 Starleague titles... >_>
While it's true that accomplishments don't imply the best, I think they should still be a FACTOR in at least determining who belongs on the poll. From what i heard he doesn't have enough overall wins to even be put in the mix which i find retarded. I believe the god of war should atleast be mentioned in this argument.
I guess its lack of room for options, everyone already in the poll have far more fans and have done more in the scene so replacing one wouldn't work really well.
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