EPTPower Rank 12/14/2008 - Page 19
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Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
He was slumping, but the moment he comes back he can very well be #1 again. Its too early just yet, since he need to keep playing this good. But if he keeps dominating until the new PR comes out, he should be on top. If he doesn't then he shouldn't. He's got nothing to prove compared to Sea or who-ever. Jaedong was THE BEST and only went down rankings coz HE slumped. He doesn't need another OSL or MSL or GOM win. If he plays like he did vs SKT1 every opponent would be an underdog. Whats the point of PR if the best player isn't on top? We just have to wait and see. | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
For CBNC, I think Pusan, Mind, and Leta are the most obvious choices. SangHo might also be worth considering. | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
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disciple
9070 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On December 25 2008 19:31 disciple wrote: whoever thinks JD is better than Bisu atm should get a medical treatment this is so absurd. | ||
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disciple
9070 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
You do realize that jaedong was once the best player on earth right? You realize his potential? Then why argue. He does not have to prove that he can win leagues, coz we know he can. He only has to prove that he is back in shape. I dont say that he's clearly better than Bisu. However im saying that if he's back in shape he is probably better or atleast very close in terms of skills, so for one person to think that he was better would not be wierd at all, maybe just abit biased. Thats why your post was absurd. | ||
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abakben
United States308 Posts
On December 25 2008 20:02 disciple wrote: your post above is more than absurd but I was not in the mood to quote you. thats the most pathetic thing about the JD fans. After Bisu vs JD @ Andromeda you were nowhere to be seen, but now you are all shitting rainbows. Like all good players Jaedong is capable of winning big games vs any opponent, no matter if he is in slump or not. If his 2 SLs are enough for you and you think his accomplishments are matching his skills, then yes, he has nothing to prove That is it. It becomes very annoying. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
was this after he won bisu 2-0 in the arena MSL, and right before he won Much, Free, BeSt and Stork in series from OSL and WCG? I don't see how this can strengthen your post. Again, yes he has to prove that he's back in shape, not that he's capable of winning titles. | ||
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disciple
9070 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On December 25 2008 21:08 disciple wrote: I brought up the game on andromeda because the situation now and then is quite similar. By that time bisu was in a slump and won the game, now was JD's time to play against the odds and win Jaedong fans were still all over the place though... anyway i wouldn't put jaedong above Bisu unless he manhandles everyone until next PR, since Bisu has been playing so good lately and has an amazing record in his last like 30 games. Bisu's record looks like flash's in his prime, which is scary. I just can't imagine how anyone could be favourite vs Jaedong if he plays like that... | ||
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Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
On December 25 2008 22:11 AnOth3rDAy wrote: Jaedong fans were still all over the place though... anyway i wouldn't put jaedong above Bisu unless he manhandles everyone until next PR, since Bisu has been playing so good lately and has an amazing record in his last like 30 games. Bisu's record looks like flash's in his prime, which is scary. I just can't imagine how anyone could be favourite vs Jaedong if he plays like that... Bisu would be. I would love to see a Jaedong vs Bisu Final. OMG,that would be one of the best finals. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 25 2008 10:26 Dazed_Spy wrote: k how is destination imbalanced? its one game away from being 50% in pvz, and is on a 6 game zerg win streak. If anything its trending to be imbalanced against Protoss.... Ah, I've been living in the past. Sorry about that, then. On December 26 2008 00:07 Darth Peter wrote: Bisu would be. I would love to see a Jaedong vs Bisu Final. OMG,that would be one of the best finals. I don't know how logical that would be, since Bisu lost to Jaedong when jaedong played like that. And Bisu played brilliantly, I don't really know how much better he could play. On December 25 2008 17:21 Darth Peter wrote: Jaedong plays Anytime and Kal this week. If he manages to beat both,and win an ace match in one of the matches,I think nobody can deny his strength. So I can't wait for it. Wait, where can you find out the proleague's schedule for the next week? | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On December 26 2008 00:19 Shikyo wrote: I don't know how logical that would be, since Bisu lost to Jaedong when jaedong played like that. And Bisu played brilliantly, I don't really know how much better he could play. because bo1 in proleague and bo5 in starleague are totally different things. Some of you make big fuss out of a proleague map, it's insane. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
Not to mention, we all know Jaedong tends to lose the first game in a b05, and while that normally allows him to warm up and rape his enemy, that wouldn't be helpful against someone of equal skill. Give him confidence, give him a game, you might lose the series 3-2. | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On December 24 2008 12:37 Kuja900 wrote: But power rank is not about what a player accomplishes, its about straight up how good they are. Head to head Free proved that he was better then Jaedong. this is the dumbest thing I`ve ever heard. | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On December 25 2008 19:31 disciple wrote: whoever thinks JD is better than Bisu atm should get a medical treatment don`t insult him, he didn`t talk about JD gettin` above bisu in the PR ( whoever thinks that should get a medical treatment indeed ). He clearly said that IF JD continues to play like this, he COULD very well be #1 again  also, On December 25 2008 21:08 disciple wrote: I brought up the game on andromeda because the situation now and then is quite similar. By that time bisu was in a slump and won the game, now was JD's time to play against the odds and win JD wasn`t HOT back then, like bisu is now | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On December 25 2008 02:46 Avidkeystamper wrote: But not everyone is in the OSL/MSL. Flash fails to beat most competent ZvT'ers. He's still third. You don't have to beat the best at every MU to be third. On first point, Jaedong will play 2 sets of "play-in" games for MSL and OSL next month. That's all. Meanwhile, the 5 dragons(Kal excluded) will play in Ro8 and higher during the next couple of months. That's my whole argument, that the starleagues move so slow that by the time Jaedong has a chance to redeem himself from his horrible failures of the previous GOM/MSL/OSL, it will be a few months from now. And projecting a player's 2-3 month performance based on a few PL games is ludicrous. On the second point, right now TvZ skills is less important than ZvT skills, due to map balance factor and just general greater number of top terrans as opposed to top zergs. It's for the same reason that Stork and Best can continue to dominate even though their PvZ skills are not impressive at all for a top tier player. | ||
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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
Now now, its hard to make a decision about who would be better when deciding between the best ZvP player and best PvZ player. But past games and history shows that Jaedong is leading currently 4-2 Bisu, so Jaedong should come out on top, if not for just his record, then the psychological advantage he has over Bisu since he's beaten him more often. Its just silly to bring back the "Bisu won on andromeda" when we can just simply bring up their total win/loss records to see who has the advantage | ||
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