Power Rank 12/14/2008 - Page 10

On December 16 2008 12:35 Dazed_Spy wrote:
I havent watched all the games of flash vs fbh, however, one of them was a rush. In general, 3 games is a very small sample. Flash is a better tvt player than FBH, and would likely crush im in a series. Obviously upsets can happen. But a few b01's [and I think Sea can testify to this!] don't mean much in the long run.

On December 15 2008 22:45 Geo.Rion wrote:



Glaring mistakes? I didnt see those. Sea vs jaedong was the best TvZ i've seen in a long time. Against FBH JD didnt play this well, he committed some really ugly mistakes in game 1, and in the second he reacted poorly to the bunker rush. BUt the game against Sea JD played briliantly, with a good build, awesome defiler control. Sea's multitasking was amazing, his macro was the factor what kept him in the game. And not only he beat Iris in a close game. Iris didnt played poorly. Sea's macro and multitasking was good. He stumped Hwasin too on the same map days later. AND HE'S IN BOTH LEAUGES! Pusan isnt. he failed both offliners. Loosing in one of them that's ok, in both, that's poor. Sea will met Leta soon so then the discussion will end.

Here many ppl were saying Flash for 1st/2nd spot, he would beat Stork or Bisu if they meet. I said, let's wait for the game, it will happen. Well it happened, he lost to Stork, and he will have to face Bisu too. So wait tilt Sea meets some of his "rivals".

On December 15 2008 22:59 Fwmeh wrote:


A short note about Sea vs Jaedong. Look at the vessels. See how he floats his vessels right into waiting scourge. Watch that first push against 3 o clock. Tell me with a straight face Sea didn't make any mistakes.

He is however in both leagues, and is playing overall quite well. I still think Leta would have been a better 10.

On December 15 2008 20:59 Plexa wrote:
Same argument can be applied to the Jaedong game, however, Sea's control was really lacking throughout, and it was really his glaring mistakes which allowed Jaedong to stay in the game for so long and turn it into an amazing game. Once again, great game - but not something to take as "SEAS TVZ IS NO1".

On December 15 2008 20:59 Plexa wrote:
Not quite true. Yes Sea played two amazing games, thats a fact. However the fact that they were so close is indicative of the skill level being relatively close. What we see here is Iris (a player no where near the CBNC list) pulling off a really really close game against sea. That means they are on comparable skill level in TvT - not that Sea is a god of all things (if that were the case he would have raped him in under 20mins). Same argument can be applied to the Jaedong game, however, Sea's control was really lacking throughout, and it was really his glaring mistakes which allowed Jaedong to stay in the game for so long and turn it into an amazing game. Once again, great game - but not something to take as "SEAS TVZ IS NO1".

The thing is, close games happen all the time at all possible skill levels. Two amazing and close games by Sea cannot demonstrate effectively that Sea is PR material. Pusan is but one player who has far exceeded Sea for this month, and i choose him as an example because i know the most about his recent games. Pusan won a very close game with Stork on Colo (this was just as Stork started to lose games, so he was still pretty much the guy to beat). This means that Pusan's PvP is pretty much PR #2 level - that's saying something (he also beat kal so w/e ). He smashed through a number of mediocre terrans relatively easily and his pvt is showing no fault from the prelims. However his PvZ is kinda lacking atm, i'll you that, and he played a close game against Kwanro on colo - given that Pusan had to comeback and win - its safe to say that pusan's pvz is much better than kwanro's zvp, but still not at a level near Kal etc (well there is no evidence to suggest that). To top that off, losing in the finals against two up and coming zergs (by.hero and maGma) doesn't really bode well for an argument for strong PvZ. With that said, he has still performed better than Sea in proleauge and is fully justified to be placed ahead of him. I'm not saying that Pusan should be #10 (he should be cbnc because of his pvz), but Sea should be ranked lower than him.