Power Rank 12/01/2007 - Page 9
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koryano321
United States309 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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Diggity
United States806 Posts
Expect nothing about any player except fakesteve because he is pimp | ||
trollbone
France1905 Posts
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Sanity.
United States704 Posts
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TheTyranid
Russian Federation4333 Posts
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
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boghat
United States2109 Posts
On December 15 2007 07:00 SuperJongMan wrote: lol, he fell off in survivor. ~_~ Yeah, if not for that, the choice would be much easier. If Jaedong wins though he should probably be an easy #1. I'm rooting for Stork however. | ||
TheTyranid
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Yes Stork did loose in Survivor and will miss the next MSL but that is a small price to pay for an absolute raping of Bisu and pulling his team from 10'th to 5'th place. Khan's is 7-1 in their last 8 before being 2-6. They are red hot and have a very good shot at the playoffs. Without Stork's 8 consecutive proleague wins (in all matchups) that would not be possible. In OSL, both had easy opponents in their groups, and ro8. UpMagic was like a gift for Jaedong since he is pretty much the worst TvZer out of decent Terrans. Bisu was the second worst matchup for Stork (Savior worst) and Stork demonstrated perfect PvP. Jaedong could not prove much vs. UpMagic. It was a pretty disappointing semi. If Stork wins, then based on PL especially and OSL obviously, he will take #1 over Bisu and JD (who he would have beat) and a slumped Savior. If Jaedong wins, then Bisu will probably stay at 1. I just don't believe Jaedong is playing as well as Stork especially due to his recent hiccup in PL. | ||
boghat
United States2109 Posts
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
I just hope he annihilates Upmagic 3:0 for the third place spot in this OSL, and starts performing in the PL. That said, Stork's position on this ranking is going to come down to his play in the finals, I guess. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
its very obvious that stork put a fucking lot of preparation into his series against bisu, which takes away from his pvt and pvz practice time i'm not making any promises about the power rank because in the end there are many factors to consider, i just want to put aside assumptions that stork's survivor group is a massive hinderance on his power rank placement | ||
koryano321
United States309 Posts
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Regardless. I'm pretty sure December's best is OSL's best. Especially if the score isn't 3-2. On December 15 2007 11:02 TheTyranid wrote: Stork winning OSL will make him a way more legitimate candidate for 1'st than Jaedong winning the OSL. In fact Jaedong will not get 1'st even if he wins the OSL because you can't really put Jaedong above Bisu. That's a terrible argument. You can't put Stork above Savior either then. Jaedong's worst match is Bisu. His second worst? ... Probably Stork or Savior. | ||
zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On December 15 2007 12:59 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: losing in survivor is hardly cause to look down on stork considering how dominant he's been everywhere else its very obvious that stork put a fucking lot of preparation into his series against bisu, which takes away from his pvt and pvz practice time i'm not making any promises about the power rank because in the end there are many factors to consider, i just want to put aside assumptions that stork's survivor group is a massive hinderance on his power rank placement 2 or 3 days of practice! Firm believer in "overpracticing" apparently. >.> On December 15 2007 11:42 boghat wrote: I don't care who takes Bisu's #1 spot away from him but if Bisu stays first that is really dumb. #1 players win Starleagues. This is supposed to be whoever is the hottest the past month but it never ever has been. If it was Mind should be #2 this month at the least. Eh, power rank is about who is the best more than it is who is hot. Being hot tends to indicate that someone has stepped up their game, but the difference between the top ten and bottom ten is those in the top ten are pretty much always going to be going deep into MSL/OSL and you know they're among the best of the best. If Stork wins this OSL, I wouldn't be surprised if he's at number 1, but just because Bisu has lost a few series doesn't mean he isn't capable of stomping everyone next season on his way to a 3rd MSL title and his first OSL. Losing to Stork in a PvP is nothing to be ashamed of (although getting 3-0ed always sucks) and Mind's play in proleague has shown that he wasn't a complete fluke (at worst I expect him to be like Hwasin and almost always make it to the semis, but unlike Hwasin he's consistent). | ||
TheTyranid
Russian Federation4333 Posts
On December 15 2007 21:20 SuperJongMan wrote: That's a terrible argument. You can't put Stork above Savior either then. Jaedong's worst match is Bisu. His second worst? ... Probably Stork or Savior. True, but if Jaedong gets thrashed in the finals (3-0) Bisu will probably get second place still. If the finals is going to be close and both players bring their a-game, they will take the top two spots with the winner taking first. The thing with Jaedong is that he had a very easy road to the finals. Neither Light nor UpMagic are serious opponents. So if a player cruises through easy opponents but then gets raped by a serious opponent, he did not do that well. Jaedong's play will determine his place on PR. | ||
TheTyranid
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Stork one sided victory. 1.Stork 2.Bisu (If Bisu looses to Up, he could drop to 3'rd in this case. Guaranteed if Up rapes him.) 3.Jaedong (cruising through easy opponents, loosing to strong opponent) Close (3-2) victory. Winner 1'st. looser 2'nd Jaedong one sided victory 1.Jaedong (elevating weakest matchup RIGHT when it matters most) 2.Stork 3.Bisu 4. Savior gets fourth because he has been consistently getting knocked out from SL's and is getting pushed aside by the newer dominating players. Unfortunately only his ZvP and 2v2 R have been giving him success lately 5. Mind has been doing well in proleague. He is helping his team rise from the bottom 4 to 5'th place. This is exactly what he needs to secure the momentum from his MSL tear. 6. Up played so bad against JD. However, if he does well vs. Bisu he might get 6'th. He also made it to MSL. 7. Sea. He is doing really well in proleague. He is looking good in OSC and if he doesn't Midas and gets 4'th place he will get the 6'th spot over Up. He is also about to make MSL 8-9? Hwasin will drop several spots. He got knocked out of an SL again! and his STX team is slumping badly. 8-9? Much. Is another OSC hopeful and is the CJ ace. 10. Yarnc. He has been playing hot lately. The OSC finals will be the thing that decides the bottom places in the PR among Sea, Much, Yarnc, and Up(maybe). GGPlay is doing well in Proleague but he lost to 3-10 TvZ Shine and didn't make MSL?!?!? edit: Oops. GGPlay was not on the PR anyway. Light is the one who will be booted. He is inconsistent and gets PR spots when he is on a streak ( much like Yarnc). Now that his (OSL) streak has ended, he has no place on the PR. His PL record is not too hot either. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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boghat
United States2109 Posts
On December 16 2007 02:18 zer0das wrote: 2 or 3 days of practice! Firm believer in "overpracticing" apparently. >.> Eh, power rank is about who is the best more than it is who is hot. Being hot tends to indicate that someone has stepped up their game, but the difference between the top ten and bottom ten is those in the top ten are pretty much always going to be going deep into MSL/OSL and you know they're among the best of the best. I agree with you somewhat but not really. If you want to decide who is "best" then look at the KeSPA ratings. In a game that has as many highly competitive players as this one 'best' has limited significance. I'm a huge Savior fan but Mind beat him (and Bisu) in a Bo5 when it counted. If results were the main determining factor then Mind should be higher right now. Performance plays a big part though and is why I actually do like the positioning of this month's Power Rank. There comes a point where 'who is best' becomes too subjective though. The argument, "but the difference between the top ten and bottom ten is those in the top ten are pretty much always going to be going deep into MSL/OSL and you know they're among the best of the best" is just dumb. Take a look at the older Power Ranks. I guess I don't really have much of a disagreement. I think this month's Power Rank is fine and if Steve is really watching every, or most, games then I'm sure next months will be good too. I look forward to it. | ||
MoRe_mInErAls
Canada1210 Posts
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