This "Evolution of E-sports" announcement has been the best thing so far in e-sports for my taste. I'm really looking forward to the overall, global, growth of e-sports, especially with this unprecedented partnership between so many organizations.

badeanden

Norway56 Posts

April 04 2013 14:26 GMT

#22

For me the whole system is so far very confusing. I don't really understand who can compete where, and how the point system work or anything. And how will it affect the already excisting tournaments beside from changing the names? I slightly disapprove so far, because i find the system hard to understand, and I'm afraid there will be only koreans and no NA players in the finals. But I have a very open mind so feel free to convince me this is a good thing

+ I disagree with the fact that IEM got Europe instead of Dreamhack. Will Dreamhack tournaments not count? and this makes Dreamhack so much less important, and IEM SO much more important. I don't like when blizzard side with a tournament.

DusTerr

2520 Posts

April 04 2013 14:44 GMT

#23

If this ends up with a EU and NA version of GSL I'm all for it!

ErrantKnight

Switzerland186 Posts

April 04 2013 15:10 GMT

#24

I think they have to do something against korean global dominance such as putting all the koreans that come to play on NA or EU in the same side of the global bracket., for the rest I approve the new system.

Slardar

Canada7593 Posts

April 04 2013 15:10 GMT

#25

After reading SK.MC's criticisms, Strongly Disapprove seems to be the obvious choice.

bartus88

Netherlands491 Posts

April 04 2013 15:12 GMT

#26

I slightly disapprove because I don't think forcing players to a location is a good idea, I liked the previous method of just going by nationality. Also the changes to GSL are not that great in my opinion. But WCS will probably end up as an awesome tournament, even though I dislike the system.

Edit: I strongly agree with MC's statements: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203

Koerage

Netherlands1220 Posts

April 04 2013 15:52 GMT

#27

they released too little details to my liking, all seems like they think "that'll come in time", they did know they would do this statement so dunno why they didnt work it out more. what i've read thus far, im not happy with it, looks like the koreans that are not in code S are gonna have a very hard time to get to the finals, whereas they cannot compete in MLG's/IEM if they chose for korean. So we'll not have code S regulars like MVP, Life, Leenock etc coming to foreing events because it looks like they cant because they compete in code S, the korean qualifier.
now if i misunderstood all and it actually does not lock the top koreans out of MLG/IEM, its actually quite a nice step, but the WCS should've been a different tournament, other than MLG/IEM/code S so the top players can go to all - because this almost turns MLG into a NA tourney, code S into korean (which it already was) and DH/IEM to european matches. I'd have preferred something like last years WCS, but just make it invited events with some qualifiers, smaller scale (because they occur more often) and have the big tourneys running like before.

JtoK

Germany232 Posts

April 04 2013 16:17 GMT

#28

Really good!

Billinator

United States86 Posts

April 04 2013 16:20 GMT

#29

I don't really know what the whole thing entails. !
1.6 million dollars is good but I don't know if its acually good for player conditions and such

looken

727 Posts

April 04 2013 17:23 GMT

#30

i think its great news

Newbdizzle

United States18 Posts

April 04 2013 17:47 GMT

#31

ALL the free HD streams! o/

Koerage

Netherlands1220 Posts

April 04 2013 18:15 GMT

#32

Well i'm reconsidering abit after reading 2day's interviews with + Show Spoiler +

Roro and Bomber

(groupA winners!). Think we'll have to see, I do hope it will not affect the koreans too much tho, i still feel they're the most important part of competative SC2

scnlimit

United States7 Posts

April 04 2013 18:43 GMT

#33

Does no one else really have a problem with the idea of Koreans just taking over all of the servers? Like, I'm all for seeing great players, but I think it would also be interesting to see the separate regions going at it later and not all getting dominated by Koreans.

Kazeyonoma

United States2912 Posts

April 04 2013 18:54 GMT

#34

it's meh to me, i feel like the system is okay, and it has potential, but until the point system is released, i worry it can be abused, and discouraging koreans from coming to events to play is bullshit to me. I was looking forward to MLG Anaheim so much this year especially with IPL6 cancelled, but now I can count on hardly any koreans showing up, so I can what, watch Polt steam roll everyone (awesome btw i love team polt) yeah i'm sorry, I get the whole 'cheer for your national hero' mentality, but it's like that day9 daily 100, where the little kid from south africa showed up to WCS and was explaining that you can drop on island maps... that's the kind of shit we're promoting by region locking players.

I pay and attend events because i want to watch the best of the best, not to watch 'murica beat up on other muricans. Just look at last years WCS NA that ran concurrent with MLG Anaheim. no one watched WCS NA at the venue while thousands crowded the stages that had their favorite koreans playing. The KesPA mini tournament drew huge crowds because the players and the skill potential from them was exciting, NOT their nationality.

Not to mention this completely screws NASL and DreamHack from participation unless they have a 'ffa points all players can attend these events for a 'max point pool' from them (similar to the ATPTennis system) but then that actually helps those events become more popular, while the region locked tourneys will see decreased numbers.

I'm happy that blizz is getting involved and pumping money into it like competitors are for their respective games, and i thinkt he system will eventually get ironed out better, but right now the system just looks like it totally fucks over a lot of orgs and teams and players because the plan didn't detail enough on how it would affect those not in code S, or not in the WCS series.

don't even get me started on how i'm praying Gom somehow reimburses loyal subscribers (since gsl open 1 mind you!) is getting massively ripped off now that higher stream quality with less lag is now available FOR FREE on twitch, and what was supposed to be 5 seasons is now probably 3-4.

ugh.

Kazeyonoma

United States2912 Posts

April 04 2013 18:58 GMT

#35

On April 05 2013 03:43 scnlimit wrote:
Does no one else really have a problem with the idea of Koreans just taking over all of the servers? Like, I'm all for seeing great players, but I think it would also be interesting to see the separate regions going at it later and not all getting dominated by Koreans.

No I don't have a problem with it because if the players want to 'win their own moneys' they should have to put in the time and effort to earn it. It's not like koreans are genetically predisposed to just be better, they work harder, practice smarter, and have sacrificed more to get the team environments they need to excel. If i wanted to watch random players beat up on each other that while high skilled won't ever take a game from a korean, I can just watch Diamond league tournaments or local LAN tournaments.

And no separate regions going at it later, 'not all getting domianted by Koreans' is exactly what will happen at the season finals every season. It'll be a huge farce. CHEER FOR EUROs with no real korean competition! CHEER FOR NA! with no real korean competition, MEET at the Season 1 Finals! top 5 koreans. rinse repeat for 3 seasons. rinse repeat for WCS. So instead of allowing the potential for having the top 16 or so players of the WORLD competing at the finals each season and at blizzcon eventually, we'll have the top 5 koreans, and then 11 others who are just there to try their best. A for effort, here's a trophy for trying so hard.