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crazeh
Profile Joined August 2010
91 Posts
July 01 2011 09:21 GMT
#21
I don't watch much Starcraft for a couple of months, come back and find Jangbi has gone 24-3...
FatBlackZombieMama
Profile Joined November 2010
France118 Posts
July 01 2011 09:46 GMT
#22
It seems Yellow will never clinch the #1 PR spot
I'm very impressed by Hoejja's and Jangbi's performance lately. Unexpected to say the least...
EPIIIIC!
hns
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany609 Posts
July 01 2011 10:03 GMT
#23
Prepare for uproar of Bisu fanboys D:
ZerO, Action, Neo.G_Soulkey & FlaSh fanboy~~
m4gdelen4
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
July 01 2011 10:11 GMT
#24
the url for Jaedong's "hipster picture to boot" is messed up. It only goes to first page of that thread.

awesome pic though :D
it does to blue what blue does to you
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 10:16:06
July 01 2011 10:15 GMT
#25
On July 01 2011 19:11 m4gdelen4 wrote:
the url for Jaedong's "hipster picture to boot" is messed up. It only goes to first page of that thread.

I told him that.. then he fixed it.. then he broke it again.

trollinks ¤____¤.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
July 01 2011 10:25 GMT
#26
YellOw was fucked up by stupid maps and the very best terrans all his life. He's probably the 3rd best ZvTer ever despite that (3rd highest vs T elo peak ever, this guy was a god of ZvT...). He deserved a gold more than anyone who hasn't one, and more than some who have.
He should have been n°1 this month. But Flash tied Nada, and became the greatest progamer ever. This very month.
Fucked up by terran was I saying ?
Nice ranking though =)
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 01 2011 10:50 GMT
#27
While I'm happy you've put Flash up there so resoundingly I have to say I think you should've written moar about him.
I hope Flash gets a fair chance to defend his position next month, and not get overtaken due to lack of play/play held back and worsened by his injury.

Also, nice little tribute to Yellow with the #2 spot, he deserved that one.

I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
July 01 2011 10:53 GMT
#28
On July 01 2011 19:25 corumjhaelen wrote:
YellOw was fucked up by stupid maps and the very best terrans all his life. He's probably the 3rd best ZvTer ever despite that (3rd highest vs T elo peak ever, this guy was a god of ZvT...). He deserved a gold more than anyone who hasn't one, and more than some who have.
He should have been n°1 this month. But Flash tied Nada, and became the greatest progamer ever. This very month.
Fucked up by terran was I saying ?
Nice ranking though =)


Have to disagree. If you lost, you lost. No ifs, buts, maybes, whatever. Those are just excuses. Yellow doesn't "deserve" a gold any more than other players who lost in the finals. Because he lost. And it's not like I don't know how you feel. My favorite player is Stork, and I make no excuses about any of his finals losses. You could say he lost to Jaedong, Flash, and Bisu at their peaks, and that perhaps goon range could've won that 5th game against Bisu. But the reality is that he still lost those matches.

As for maps, Savior had bad maps against him. Scratch that, he had maps that were literally anti-zerg against him, and still won. Katrina was suppose to be PvT heaven where Stork is unstoppable, yet Flash beat him senseless on Katrina.

In the end, if you are good enough, you will rise above the maps. As Yellow did not, he deserves this final #2 Ranking. Because despite all his success, he could not rise above #2.
Meh
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
July 01 2011 11:10 GMT
#29
On July 01 2011 19:53 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 19:25 corumjhaelen wrote:
YellOw was fucked up by stupid maps and the very best terrans all his life. He's probably the 3rd best ZvTer ever despite that (3rd highest vs T elo peak ever, this guy was a god of ZvT...). He deserved a gold more than anyone who hasn't one, and more than some who have.
He should have been n°1 this month. But Flash tied Nada, and became the greatest progamer ever. This very month.
Fucked up by terran was I saying ?
Nice ranking though =)


Have to disagree. If you lost, you lost. No ifs, buts, maybes, whatever. Those are just excuses. Yellow doesn't "deserve" a gold any more than other players who lost in the finals. Because he lost. And it's not like I don't know how you feel. My favorite player is Stork, and I make no excuses about any of his finals losses. You could say he lost to Jaedong, Flash, and Bisu at their peaks, and that perhaps goon range could've won that 5th game against Bisu. But the reality is that he still lost those matches.

As for maps, Savior had bad maps against him. Scratch that, he had maps that were literally anti-zerg against him, and still won. Katrina was suppose to be PvT heaven where Stork is unstoppable, yet Flash beat him senseless on Katrina.

In the end, if you are good enough, you will rise above the maps. As Yellow did not, he deserves this final #2 Ranking. Because despite all his success, he could not rise above #2.

YellOw>Sync and quite a few others. You can have lucky SL runs, even though they are rare.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/98 is worse than anything sAviOr had to play on (and the only ZvT win was... YellOw...).
Honestly, I've watched Coca Cola OSL final quite a few time and I'll say it. YellOw deserved to loose against Oov, Nada, even Xellos, but not against Boxer that day. He played better starcraft that dar, and he would have won if the 5th map had been Neo Jungle Story or Neo Legacy of Char. And BW history would have been completely changed. You're free to disagree, but that's how I feel.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
July 01 2011 11:12 GMT
#30
Yellow <3

Personally I'd have JD below Hydra but it's not that big a deal, list is solid
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
July 01 2011 11:14 GMT
#31
nice to see jangbi back in here.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 11:29:46
July 01 2011 11:29 GMT
#32
omfg, i love the bittersweet irony in yellow being number 2 =) byebye kong, you will always be remembered.

overall its a powerrank i can agree on, although i personally would have put bisu above hydra. but maybe thats just the fanboy in me speaking...

"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 01 2011 12:05 GMT
#33
On July 01 2011 19:53 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 19:25 corumjhaelen wrote:
YellOw was fucked up by stupid maps and the very best terrans all his life. He's probably the 3rd best ZvTer ever despite that (3rd highest vs T elo peak ever, this guy was a god of ZvT...). He deserved a gold more than anyone who hasn't one, and more than some who have.
He should have been n°1 this month. But Flash tied Nada, and became the greatest progamer ever. This very month.
Fucked up by terran was I saying ?
Nice ranking though =)


Have to disagree. If you lost, you lost. No ifs, buts, maybes, whatever. Those are just excuses. Yellow doesn't "deserve" a gold any more than other players who lost in the finals. Because he lost. And it's not like I don't know how you feel. My favorite player is Stork, and I make no excuses about any of his finals losses. You could say he lost to Jaedong, Flash, and Bisu at their peaks, and that perhaps goon range could've won that 5th game against Bisu. But the reality is that he still lost those matches.

As for maps, Savior had bad maps against him. Scratch that, he had maps that were literally anti-zerg against him, and still won. Katrina was suppose to be PvT heaven where Stork is unstoppable, yet Flash beat him senseless on Katrina.

In the end, if you are good enough, you will rise above the maps. As Yellow did not, he deserves this final #2 Ranking. Because despite all his success, he could not rise above #2.


The joke here is that Yellow did win enough games, in a final, to win a title. They just all got regamed.
Remember Violet.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 01 2011 12:51 GMT
#34
The order of the rank looks okay, but some of the things you are saying don't make sense. Hydra beat hyvaa. He lost to Juni. Zero did drop a PL match, to Kal.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
July 01 2011 13:22 GMT
#35
Typo on ZerO's description? He got second in the ABCMart MSL, not PDPop MSL
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
July 01 2011 13:56 GMT
#36
I actually think you are underranking (T)firebathero. He has played some stellar games and even his losses have shown some great maturity on his part. His loss in particular against Best, for example, shows just how far he has come as a player, and considering he is regularly going up against opposing team Ace players (who, when playing vs. ACE, really only need to prepare for a vTerran threat unless ggaemo gets sent out) FBH is playing some excellent starcraft.
the last wcs commissioner
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
July 01 2011 14:20 GMT
#37
Can you please put some more effort into Flash next time? This is pretty dumb: he may be the OSL winner, but that's the only meaningful thing he did ALL of June. His only two other wins are due to the caliber of his opponents, and he lost to every player that's considered A-level (Bogus is arguable). Now that he's going to be taking a break for probably most of July you would think there has to be more rationale for him to be number one. Posting his achievements list is a massive cop-out when he's clearly not the same Flash that won all those OSL/MSLs, and at the moment he will surely lose to Jaedong/Hydra/Bisu in a Bo5.
kassi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
July 01 2011 14:21 GMT
#38
Yellow~~ Love the #2 tribute. For all the people that are upset he never got a medal, I look at it this way: there are plenty winners that have been forgotten or have lost their #1 glory, but Hong Jin Ho has become a legend. What would have happened had he won? I don't know, but I feel it would have been hard to beat the love that he has now =)

And go Hoejja! It's amazing how Jangbi, Hoejja and Best have all started doing well... Breaking the pae-wang line!
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
July 01 2011 14:35 GMT
#39
On July 01 2011 23:20 DarkOptik wrote:
Can you please put some more effort into Flash next time? This is pretty dumb: he may be the OSL winner, but that's the only meaningful thing he did ALL of June. His only two other wins are due to the caliber of his opponents, and he lost to every player that's considered A-level (Bogus is arguable). Now that he's going to be taking a break for probably most of July you would think there has to be more rationale for him to be number one. Posting his achievements list is a massive cop-out when he's clearly not the same Flash that won all those OSL/MSLs, and at the moment he will surely lose to Jaedong/Hydra/Bisu in a Bo5.

Flash won't meet Bisu because he's getting seeded every SL except the recent 2, while Bisu can't pass the prelims
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umad?
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
July 01 2011 15:09 GMT
#40
On July 01 2011 21:51 Mortality wrote:
The order of the rank looks okay, but some of the things you are saying don't make sense. Hydra beat hyvaa. He lost to Juni. Zero did drop a PL match, to Kal.

That's the problem of writing for six hours. I will change the stuff.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
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