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On June 21 2011 15:44 zaii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 15:30 starclaws wrote: According to the vote... everyone is blinded by MLG tour bullshit. Dreamhack is the biggest in the world. MLG is a joke of a tour around the US and they can't figure out small issues like audio and such. "everyone is blinded by MLG tour bullshit" ? explain. Dreamhack bigger then MLG is questionable. Not really, DH is way larger event than MLG. It isn't even close. If you ignore everything but the Starcraft 2 parts of MLG and DH, then yes, MLG isn't that far behind but overall, DH is huge.
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On June 21 2011 16:41 Chenz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 15:44 zaii wrote:On June 21 2011 15:30 starclaws wrote: According to the vote... everyone is blinded by MLG tour bullshit. Dreamhack is the biggest in the world. MLG is a joke of a tour around the US and they can't figure out small issues like audio and such. "everyone is blinded by MLG tour bullshit" ? explain. Dreamhack bigger then MLG is questionable. Not really, DH is way larger event than MLG. It isn't even close. If you ignore everything but the Starcraft 2 parts of MLG and DH, then yes, MLG isn't that far behind but overall, DH is huge.
How many events does DH host a year compared to MLG? and totaly prize money?
And there's still the fact that MLG is a league and DH is just one or two huge LANS.
See that's why I said questionable.
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It has to be that they were equal but in different ways I think.
Dreamhack: Streams (Better quality and more) Tournament format (more fair and can you say no extended series!) Coverage (Didn't have to miss a single game) Timezone (I am from Sweden so it was much easier for me to watch) Huk
MLG: Casters (Dreamhack had more but MLG had Tasotsis) Schedule (streaming was more consistent) Mainstage (only final game of Dreamhack showed player reactions when they won) Sc2 focus MC Antics
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Both had great games, but I go with DreamHuK
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MLG, cause of tastosis, double elimination and no stupid one bo3 in the semifinal and you're out.
(also it may be a luxory-problem, but i found 2 mlg-streams (red'n blue) better to handle, than switching between 5 streams to find the game that i find most interesting.
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On June 21 2011 16:35 zaii wrote: How does DH win Stream Stability? Black screens, plus lag whenever its ingame gives DH the win?
U must have 56k modem or something, the main stream and TB stream had no downtime for me. And about number 5 in your previous post, if you were watching the MLG C event there was alot of times the streams showed the same games. I have no clue why ur acting so defenive, both were great events.
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Free stream (MLGs was not intended to be free), every game game streamed,less commercials, more viewers, better players, better times for euros = DH was better
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On June 21 2011 17:38 BertiliO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 16:35 zaii wrote: How does DH win Stream Stability? Black screens, plus lag whenever its ingame gives DH the win? U must have 56k modem or something, the main stream and TB stream had no downtime for me. And about number 5 in your previous post, if you were watching the MLG C event there was alot of times the streams showed the same games. I have no clue why ur acting so defenive, both were great events.
Thats the thing i didn't have 56k and the DH streams were lagging. Not being defensive just wanted to state the facts.
On the MLG part yea i got that wrong, forgot the casters had breaks so they fused the streams.
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On June 21 2011 17:01 Krogan wrote: It has to be that they were equal but in different ways I think.
Dreamhack: Streams (Better quality and more) Tournament format (more fair and can you say no extended series!) Coverage (Didn't have to miss a single game) Timezone (I am from Sweden so it was much easier for me to watch) Huk
MLG: Casters (Dreamhack had more but MLG had Tasotsis) Schedule (streaming was more consistent) Mainstage (only final game of Dreamhack showed player reactions when they won) Sc2 focus MC Antics
i actually prefer MLG's double elimination, which i think is more fair, and yielded more games. the reason there was no extended series because it went from group play to single elimination not that extended series bothers me too much i would have liked to see bo5 for semi finals and third and bo7 for finals at dreamhack too :/
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MLG because of production, getting player interviews more often, seeing the crowd more often and the stream was more stable.
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MLG as a tournament without a doubt. They are purely a tournament and only three games which have a lot more potential. If they didn't do it better than dreamhack it would've been a shame.
DH Invitational > MLG Colombus 2011 > Dreamhack Summer > Dreamhack winter -- MLG 2010 > MLG Dallas 2011 in my experience at least
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Dreamhack was better for me.
+ It was at a better timezone for me, I did not have to ruin my whole sleep schedule. + Every! game was casted, I did not have to miss any of my favorite players. + MC Casting + Way better games, Dreamhack produced some amazing games. + Bigger talent pool. + Moon showed how good he is. + Relaxed atmosphere. + I also like to watch Quake, LoL etc. Halo and CoD are not interesting to watch.
- You didn't see the players. - Justin.tv, I seriously don't get this. The majority of the people who watched Dreamhack were probably Europeans (Because of the timezones) and Justin.tv is still really bad in Europe. - No Tastosis.
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I quite enjoyed Dreamhack, though not as much as MLG
Dreamhack pros: + more casters (day[9] of course but really enjoyed TotalBiscuit + TLO, even oGs.MC !) + better stream quality/stability + my timezone (ok it's a bad one, but still) + many players from europe that weren't in mlg
Dreamhack cons: - website was very messy, finding schedules and streams from the website was not clear - No post game interviews except for the finals - Uneven quality of streams (day9tv was cool, totalBiscuit cast was nice but no other cam than the SC2 game, didn't quite like the others as much) - players not on the main stage, without cams (=> less drama) - stream idle times, also last rounds on a monday (at least finals were in the evening so working people could watch) - justin.tv ads everytime you launched a stream
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MLG Colombus have my vote since I work on monday and I can't watch the semi-final / final
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I actually laughed out loud everytime the overlay guy writes something in Dreamhacks tournaments :D:D
Dreamhack did a few misstakes, the biggest one was no player + audience interaction.
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Dreamhack by a mile. Much higher quality stream that is free, you can watch any game you want to. Fair format for the players, and a very much higher quality set of players. The only thing that was better at MLG was having Tastosis. MC casting was amazing too
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dreamhack! Better match times! (well I live in Europe... )
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On June 21 2011 15:03 gaizka wrote:spoilers please :\
You read this thread and expected to not get any spoilers?
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Huk winning Dreamhack definately makes it better. and it was cute how july tried taking the grand prize check.
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