EPTDreamHack vs MLG Columbus
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Garth
United States353 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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strahlemann
Germany15 Posts
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Ryka
United Kingdom254 Posts
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On June 21 2011 06:35 strahlemann wrote: Dreamhack because: more broadcasted games on more channels, didnt miss games i was interested in You hit the point. I like to watch games live that im interested in , non watch vod or reps DreamHACK! <3 | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
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VGhost
United States3613 Posts
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
Only reason why Dreamhack is winning now imo is 1. because Huk won and 2. because it just ended a few hours ago which still makes you kinda be in that euphoria. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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yiodee
United States137 Posts
DH had almost every game displayed on at least one of their 5 streams(unlike MLG). Certainly both events can learn from each other. If they did we would have two perfect lan events. | ||
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
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exterminatus
Korea (North)142 Posts
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Domination
United States1177 Posts
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On June 21 2011 06:45 pallad wrote: You hit the point. I like to watch games live that im interested in , non watch vod or reps DreamHACK! <3 mlg was live too.. | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
Too many damn breaks though. I missed the finals because of that two hour break, I left to do stuff and totally forgot about it until it was over. Shit. | ||
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Chenz
Sweden1197 Posts
 ). MLGs streaming solution is much more stable (though not quite stable enough, but it's getting there) than JTV. I don't get why major events like NASL and DH is using it, JTV has proven again and again that it just can't stay smooth for several hours. I'd say both events are great, and hopefully they'll get even better in the future. | ||
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
B: Better streams. Always HQ and several of them to cover all games played, even the open bracket, which was one of the more entertaining ones, and spawning the purple Cytoplasm fan club on TL. C: Less commercials, less annoying commercials. D: oGsMC casting! E: Free HQ stream!! Sure they made the stream free at MLG because of the poor handling of it, but honestly MLG HD is like 360p Edit: The biggest letdown with DH was seperating players and crowd, using JTV (who made that decision? JTV fails time and time again) and having the finals on a monday. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
I wish MC had won though. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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nekuodah
England2409 Posts
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lukeppp
9 Posts
DH winter was by some distance the best SC2 event todate, anywhere. | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Plus other games like HoN, LoL (200k viewers lol!) and Quakelive TDM are a pretty viable watch too, relative to Halo and CoD anyway. All in all, Esports. | ||
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BigLighthouse
United Kingdom424 Posts
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Twitchzor
Sweden33 Posts
Nothing compares to Dreamhack Invitational though. People who think this Dreamhack or MLG C. was good and missed DHI- my god you missed something! Even IdrA said that tournament was "Impeccable". I hope we will be able to experience something that perfect in terms of E-Sports again. *edit* You should add an option "Haven't watched both". I feel that many will vote MLG without having seen this Dreamhack and vice versa. | ||
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darklordjac
Canada2231 Posts
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
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lurked
Canada918 Posts
MLG Columbus (217) 37% DreamHack (205) 35% Both were equally great (160) 27% It looks quite equally great to me ^^ Personally the games I watched in the MLG were more intense than the ones I watched at Dreamhack, but obviously it's because I didn't watch all of them, I suppose both events had their share of amazing games. But I watched all of the main stage MLG games(and a few series on the 2nd stream on 2nd monitor too), and I must admit that I was astonished by the entertainment quality of these games. MLG takes this one, but both events were really great to watch anyway. The production quality was also outstanding for both events, perhaps the small occasionnal lags during MLG were a little bit frustrating, and Dreamhack providing top-notch HQ stream for free makes me tend to prefer Dreamhack on this side, but it's a really close call. That's why I voted that "Both were equally great",  kudos to both events' teams! - Oh and On June 21 2011 06:33 Garth wrote: Dreamhack cuz huk won. great first reply btw  | ||
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Dyme
Germany523 Posts
MLG Columbus had a much better atmosphere. And Tastosis. It wins. Wonder why the "good room" at Dreamhack only was used for the Finals. Did they need it for Streetfighter? <.< | ||
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shizi
United States210 Posts
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grigorin
Austria275 Posts
+Lots of streams +MC casting --Justin.tv MLG +Stable stream +Tastosis -extended series | ||
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TheResidentEvil
United States991 Posts
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
Higher production values, players were on stage and louder crowd. | ||
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8D
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thirnaz
Sweden876 Posts
But them at equal but im biased since i live in jönköping ;p | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
Both were amazing anyways and HuK won Dreamhack. Though, MLG comes ahead in production and entertainment (even though I got to see the best TvT ever in Dreamhack! xD). | ||
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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pinnacle
United States86 Posts
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obsKura
Ireland1061 Posts
What I did not liked about both events: Bo3 even for the semi finals and placement matches and Grand Finals only Bo5. This is disappointing especially as lot of those matches were quite short and instead you had huge breaks. HuK, I love you! You so have earned it! <3 | ||
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
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1ManArmy
Netherlands895 Posts
MLG had that stylish smooth production feel + the amazing live enviroment. For me the live experience with the players actually interacting with eachother adds alot to the experience (Idra vs MC outside the booth.. MMA's Kamehameha, QXC's Interview, The Relay Race). Dreamhack on the other hand had that summerish campy feel, with all those people in the Day9 Tent watching the games together. Even though the players were not visible, the casters/live audience still gave a good sense of importance and the games were amazing aswell. Alot of extremely epic macro games were shown. Glad to see Huk finally showing what he is capable of Congratulations to him!So yeah, both events were amazing, and that made me a happy spectator. | ||
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Skoop
United States214 Posts
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Zaucy
Sweden13 Posts
On June 21 2011 08:24 pinnacle wrote: Both were great but I voted MLG because of the time difference for Dreamhack. Then I should vote for Dreamhack because of the time difference. Invalid argument lol. MLG: I wished there were more of a schedule of what players were up next, ect. It was very hard to keep track what players were going to play on what stream. The both streams should have some little list of what to see (when they know what players & match ups). Me and my friends had problems knowing what stream would show what match without streaming both at the same time (but muting the other one we didn't watch at the time). Also the MLG commercials was a lot louder than the stream it self, compared to DH commercials. But we enjoyed both events very much! | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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Zedders
Canada450 Posts
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
I always appreciated the constant player cams, the fact that you didn't have to choose between 6 streams, the video feeds of the audience, Tastosis, the MLG-GSL ties, and the double elimination and championship bracket of MLG | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
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chesshaha
United States1117 Posts
When watching MLG, it is exciting to see any pro player who is new to MLG can make it from the open bracket to Championship sunday in a more forgiving double elimination american style bracket. Dreakhack has a good old fasion world cup style, where group plays are first for the qualified players, then top players from each group moved into a single elimination bracket. Both formats are nice, while we had about same amount of talents from the player pool comparing MLG Comlubus with DHS11. Not sure who had more spectators in person and from online streams. | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1092 Posts
On June 21 2011 06:33 Garth wrote: Dreamhack cuz huk won. this 1000x this :D HuK played amazing was great to see... though production wise I think that MLG has it | ||
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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Doppelganger
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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et
Switzerland367 Posts
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On June 21 2011 09:36 et wrote: MLG by far. The audience being in the same room as the players really makes a difference, both for the viewers (audience of course, but also stream) and players, the games were far better (i didn't see anything as entertaining as losira vs mma or losira vs mc on dreamhack). I totally agree. People keep saying how amazing the games from this Dreamhack were - every single game I saw was disappointingly not up to the usual standards of the players. From the terrible performances of the highly touted guys like Kas and Happy to the mediocrity displayed by Idra and Thorzain. I don't know what was going on this weekend, but it seemed like everyone, even the usually impeccable Koreans, were making mistakes left and right. Bomber's TvZ suddenly went down the gutter, and July was lackluster the entire event. The only saving graces were MC's casting and Huk/Moon doing well. | ||
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ObsidianArbiter
United States9 Posts
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Freeheals
United States488 Posts
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Troopi
Denmark383 Posts
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rockerman101
United States85 Posts
On June 21 2011 06:33 Garth wrote: thanks 4 no spoiler alertDreamhack cuz huk won. | ||
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anatem
Romania1369 Posts
seeing the players compete is what matters to me, no MC show can make up for dozens of interesting series being unavailable (and a senselessly convoluted format thinning out great players somewhere far away from the stage where the as little as 5-10 star players are doing their thing beneath the mighty voice of day9). MLG had the vibe down perfectly, it felt more exciting because the off-stage action, but the delivery of the content was sub-par compared to DH in every aspect from duration to actual available content to tech problems, to casting diversity, to tournament format, to commercial interruptions. i bet the poll results would look very different had DH happened before MLG. loved MLG, but frankly, this DH set the bar for how an esports event is to be run at the very highest of standards. DH was a more professional event all around, and it sems to me of the big organizers these guys got the least to improve on by far. | ||
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TR
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
people work make the group stages friday and finals on sunday!!! | ||
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onedayclose
United States1145 Posts
1. I was able to get VODs quite quickly after the matches had concluded. 2. I could watch them in a spoiler free manner! 3. Dreamhack casted nearly every single match. Thank you Dreamhack! Also, thank you to Team Liquid for posting a thread that allowed me to reveal matches at my leisure without spoilers! I hope this kind of thing will continue for each and every big SC2 event in the future. | ||
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Suc
Australia1569 Posts
However, I can't just whine about Dreamhack, they put out 6 streams and gave us an amazing event for free, it's just that I found MLG a bit more enjoyable. | ||
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Dakota
United States62 Posts
Columbus had Tastosis I put they were equal. | ||
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BasharMentat
Chile22 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
Higher quality games, higher quality casting, better atmosphere. Non-laggy stream also. Dreamhack was good, dont get me wrong... | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
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Cryptos
United States35 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
+ Tastosis + More Games + Stable streams + Amazing Crowd and Atmosphere + Ton of stories/Drama + Player Cams Watching Dreamhack was a Heartache for me, Stream would lag/freeze every 5-7 secs, and it only happened on DeamHack streams. | ||
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Syorm
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ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
I must comment, however, on the rediculously amazing production on Day9tv during the event. The games on monday, the lack of constant action, and a weird time frame, for me put Dreamhack behind MLG Columbus, but the production on Day9tv at the very least was extremely extremely top notch! The moving pictures, the smooth animations, the eye-pleasing sponsor logos distinctly, but not distractingly in the bottom. Amazing stuff guys. Both had relatively annoying ads, however... I'd much rather more frequent ads than an ad every time the stream starts up, because I can't do much prolonged watching, and would rather not get every first 30 seconds of watch time eaten up by an ad. | ||
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MattRz
Chile1680 Posts
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Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
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JayDee_
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
The only thing MLG had over Dreamhack was that it had Tastosis. Oh, and Americans - there's a lot of Americans on this site represented by all the recent surveys. | ||
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Entropic
Canada2837 Posts
On June 21 2011 14:38 tyCe wrote: Dreamhack easily. All the games were broadcasted, the players were given better treatment, the players were better, and the games were simply better. The only thing MLG had over Dreamhack was that it had Tastosis. Oh, and Americans - there's a lot of Americans on this site represented by all the recent surveys. I thought Europeans were the most populous on this site O_o Actually seems pretty even b/w EU and NA http://www.teamliquid.net/poll/index.php?poll_id=478 | ||
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gaizka
United States991 Posts
On June 21 2011 06:33 Garth wrote: Dreamhack cuz huk won. spoilers please :\ | ||
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flamekin
United States72 Posts
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BertiliO
Sweden134 Posts
They should have the games played in that cool venue with booths from ro16. | ||
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starclaws
United States12 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On June 21 2011 15:30 starclaws wrote: According to the vote... everyone is blinded by MLG tour bullshit. Dreamhack is the biggest in the world. MLG is a joke of a tour around the US and they can't figure out small issues like audio and such. "everyone is blinded by MLG tour bullshit" ? explain. Dreamhack bigger then MLG is questionable. | ||
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Fus
Sweden1112 Posts
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
Dj wheat casting lol. Like 1 series casted every 1.5h lol. Do we have to really stare at the casters face for so long lol. 2 streams but both show same game with same casters lol. Easyyy DH | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On June 21 2011 16:09 Sea_Food wrote: Non muteable adds lol. Dj wheat casting lol. Like 1 series casted every 1.5h lol. Do we have to really stare at the casters face for so long lol. 2 streams but both show same game with same casters lol. Easyyy DH 1. Sucks to not have a volume control for your speakers in the 21st century or ad-block 2. oh you're a wheat hater 3. false 4. why you staring at their faces? 5. That only happened for the finals which was the last games and it gave spectators a choice of Tastosis or DJ9 | ||
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Sqalevon
Netherlands523 Posts
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Beaster-
United States46 Posts
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Hatorade
299 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
MLG <Strem quality> DH MLG <Strem stability> DH MLG <Casters> DH MLG <Coverage> DH MLG <Venue> DH MLG <Drama> DH MLG <Prize pool> DH 3-4 in an epic Bo7! | ||
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Sabu113
United States11047 Posts
Still MLG's dual streams with tastosis and almost constant games has to get the edge. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
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Nabes
Canada1800 Posts
why would you vote/read this thread if you have not seen the summer dreamhack? | ||
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Chenz
Sweden1197 Posts
On June 21 2011 15:44 zaii wrote: "everyone is blinded by MLG tour bullshit" ? explain. Dreamhack bigger then MLG is questionable. Not really, DH is way larger event than MLG. It isn't even close. If you ignore everything but the Starcraft 2 parts of MLG and DH, then yes, MLG isn't that far behind but overall, DH is huge. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On June 21 2011 16:41 Chenz wrote: Not really, DH is way larger event than MLG. It isn't even close. If you ignore everything but the Starcraft 2 parts of MLG and DH, then yes, MLG isn't that far behind but overall, DH is huge. How many events does DH host a year compared to MLG? and totaly prize money? And there's still the fact that MLG is a league and DH is just one or two huge LANS. See that's why I said questionable. | ||
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gladheateher1337
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Krogan
Sweden375 Posts
Dreamhack: Streams (Better quality and more) Tournament format (more fair and can you say no extended series!) Coverage (Didn't have to miss a single game) Timezone (I am from Sweden so it was much easier for me to watch) Huk MLG: Casters (Dreamhack had more but MLG had Tasotsis) Schedule (streaming was more consistent) Mainstage (only final game of Dreamhack showed player reactions when they won) Sc2 focus MC Antics | ||
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Sok4R
Germany124 Posts
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Mattes
Germany1116 Posts
(also it may be a luxory-problem, but i found 2 mlg-streams (red'n blue) better to handle, than switching between 5 streams to find the game that i find most interesting. | ||
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BertiliO
Sweden134 Posts
On June 21 2011 16:35 zaii wrote: How does DH win Stream Stability? Black screens, plus lag whenever its ingame gives DH the win? U must have 56k modem or something, the main stream and TB stream had no downtime for me. And about number 5 in your previous post, if you were watching the MLG C event there was alot of times the streams showed the same games. I have no clue why ur acting so defenive, both were great events. | ||
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RealRook
Czech Republic54 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On June 21 2011 17:38 BertiliO wrote: U must have 56k modem or something, the main stream and TB stream had no downtime for me. And about number 5 in your previous post, if you were watching the MLG C event there was alot of times the streams showed the same games. I have no clue why ur acting so defenive, both were great events. Thats the thing i didn't have 56k and the DH streams were lagging. Not being defensive just wanted to state the facts. On the MLG part yea i got that wrong, forgot the casters had breaks so they fused the streams. | ||
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flamekin
United States72 Posts
On June 21 2011 17:01 Krogan wrote: It has to be that they were equal but in different ways I think. Dreamhack: Streams (Better quality and more) Tournament format (more fair and can you say no extended series!) Coverage (Didn't have to miss a single game) Timezone (I am from Sweden so it was much easier for me to watch) Huk MLG: Casters (Dreamhack had more but MLG had Tasotsis) Schedule (streaming was more consistent) Mainstage (only final game of Dreamhack showed player reactions when they won) Sc2 focus MC Antics i actually prefer MLG's double elimination, which i think is more fair, and yielded more games. the reason there was no extended series because it went from group play to single elimination not that extended series bothers me too much i would have liked to see bo5 for semi finals and third and bo7 for finals at dreamhack too :/ | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
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busbarn
Sweden984 Posts
DH Invitational > MLG Colombus 2011 > Dreamhack Summer > Dreamhack winter -- MLG 2010 > MLG Dallas 2011 in my experience at least | ||
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Baituri
Netherlands1501 Posts
+ It was at a better timezone for me, I did not have to ruin my whole sleep schedule. + Every! game was casted, I did not have to miss any of my favorite players. + MC Casting + Way better games, Dreamhack produced some amazing games. + Bigger talent pool. + Moon showed how good he is. + Relaxed atmosphere. + I also like to watch Quake, LoL etc. Halo and CoD are not interesting to watch. - You didn't see the players. - Justin.tv, I seriously don't get this. The majority of the people who watched Dreamhack were probably Europeans (Because of the timezones) and Justin.tv is still really bad in Europe. - No Tastosis. | ||
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RenardDesMers
France76 Posts
Dreamhack pros: + more casters (day[9] of course but really enjoyed TotalBiscuit + TLO, even oGs.MC !) + better stream quality/stability + my timezone (ok it's a bad one, but still) + many players from europe that weren't in mlg Dreamhack cons: - website was very messy, finding schedules and streams from the website was not clear - No post game interviews except for the finals - Uneven quality of streams (day9tv was cool, totalBiscuit cast was nice but no other cam than the SC2 game, didn't quite like the others as much) - players not on the main stage, without cams (=> less drama) - stream idle times, also last rounds on a monday (at least finals were in the evening so working people could watch) - justin.tv ads everytime you launched a stream | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6170 Posts
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Karakaxe
Sweden585 Posts
Dreamhack did a few misstakes, the biggest one was no player + audience interaction. | ||
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Aristodemus
England1992 Posts
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
Better match times! (well I live in Europe... ) | ||
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Karakaxe
Sweden585 Posts
You read this thread and expected to not get any spoilers? | ||
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Dormdotz
Australia3 Posts
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Duredax
Sweden3 Posts
On June 21 2011 15:44 zaii wrote: "everyone is blinded by MLG tour bullshit" ? explain. Dreamhack bigger then MLG is questionable. Dreamhack is the worlds biggest LAN by fact. | ||
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Deleted User 176289
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Duredax
Sweden3 Posts
On June 21 2011 18:09 zaii wrote: Thats the thing i didn't have 56k and the DH streams were lagging. Not being defensive just wanted to state the facts. On the MLG part yea i got that wrong, forgot the casters had breaks so they fused the streams. Get better internet, I was downloading and still had 0 lags. | ||
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
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Chenz
Sweden1197 Posts
On June 21 2011 19:52 Duredax wrote: Get better internet, I was downloading and still had 0 lags. It has nothing to do with one's internet, JTV has major problem, at least in europe. You might have been lucky with which servers you got connected to, or you just didn't watch during some of the numerous times JTV failed some of us. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On June 21 2011 19:52 Duredax wrote: Get better internet, I was downloading and still had 0 lags. it's not the internet. | ||
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sambo400
United States378 Posts
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j0br
Denmark5 Posts
MLG has to step up. For starters they could make a new website, where people don't need to go to TL to find a direct link to the "buy event" page. Second, Vods, Vods, Vods. It is just not good enough that they don't upload vod's while the event is running. Third, better information about brackets, schedules, etc (mabye a result of their bad website) Fourth, the price is too high (compaired to what they offer, i think GSL is fair priced) Fifth, More streams is nice, and compaired to Dreamhack, is just not there yet. MLG is a cool event and the games were really great, but in my opinion it is by far the least cool big SC2 tournament. Edit, I agree with the people complaining about the missing ingame music at DH. Let me know if you disagree. | ||
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Grimskov
Greece41 Posts
 Day[9]TV tent was cool, but not even close to what we experienced while watching MLG. EDIT: Tastosis was a huge + as well. | ||
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MFMulti
Sweden69 Posts
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
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gladheateher1337
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ChriseC
Germany440 Posts
mlg was very good but i missed good quality streams^^ | ||
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
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Latham
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
Both delivered awesome players, great coverage, sweet games... so both get mad props! | ||
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EliteReplay
Dominican Republic913 Posts
so i could watch anymatch. and BTW will be replays of dreamhack? | ||
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Zorkey
Netherlands167 Posts
so i went for MLG. | ||
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
. Almost entirely because I'm a total Huk fanboy but possibly also because I watched all of the games I wanted to watch in a row! VODs are great for those of us who live VERY far away from all these fancy events . | ||
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101998
United States318 Posts
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Larryx
Poland148 Posts
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Sajiki
Germany522 Posts
On June 21 2011 06:49 FlopTurnReaver wrote: Definitly MLG, just the athmosphere was so much better (sry, but games in a tent without the players in sight..) Also there were more games, more players, more drama.. just generally more excitement. Only reason why Dreamhack is winning now imo is 1. because Huk won and 2. because it just ended a few hours ago which still makes you kinda be in that euphoria. totally this! | ||
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warmus
United Kingdom196 Posts
Excitement in esports is everything, as it incorporates all other aspects such as player skill, specific rivalries, caster hype, everything combines to create "excitement" and that is where MLG dominated dreamhack. MLG vs. DH as a lan event is not even close, as a bunch of games, its debatable. P.S Gratz huk, well deserved, some great play this weekend | ||
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mdma-_-
Nauru1213 Posts
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Karakaxe
Sweden585 Posts
1. Player + audience interaction (you can't cast an entire event without actually showing us any players except in the finals, that's really bad) 2. Semi finals can't be bo3, should be bo5 3. Finals can't be bo5, should be bo7 4. Have a real host (aka 2GD at the invitational) 5. Needs to use Dream Arena Extreme ALOT more (it's perfect, why don't they use it more? When they cast SC2 there, there are actually more people outside who wants to get in than there are people inside watching.) | ||
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Grotchen
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kiy0
Portugal593 Posts
You can't compared both events through the same "glasses". On the other hand, as a consumer looking for entertainment, MLG won by a long margin. 2 streams were more than you could follow (DH had 5, but you could only really watch the main stream, as TotalBiscuit and Raelcun are... uh... i'll let you decide on that one...), and the overall quality of games were slightly better in my opinion. Still, keep good events coming. ^ - ^ | ||
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Zeetee
United States153 Posts
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Keype
Sweden455 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
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ziegler
United States3 Posts
MLG wins for deeper talent pool and ending on Sunday, not Monday when I'm at work and can't watch | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
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ScaringKids
Portugal819 Posts
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Germany184 Posts
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Day000
Belgium58 Posts
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Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
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Galetmonster
Sweden151 Posts
On June 21 2011 20:30 Grimskov wrote: I don't understand why in DH they used that awesome Main Stage only for the finals Day[9]TV tent was cool, but not even close to what we experienced while watching MLG. EDIT: Tastosis was a huge + as well. Because there are more than just sc2 at dreamhack that needs the arena Counter strike League of legends Heroes of newerth Bloodline champions FIFA Street fighter Quake | ||
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Mairou
Finland144 Posts
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az1234er
France35 Posts
Better commentator at the mlg too, day9 was less bias and less loud | ||
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MLGrben
United States129 Posts
Hopefully both MLG and Dreamhack continue to improve at a rate that is nuts. PS. I want to plug MLG into Dreamhack winter if they will have us. | ||
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MrKn4rz
Germany2153 Posts
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Tuk
United Kingdom223 Posts
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Khenra
Netherlands885 Posts
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Galetmonster
Sweden151 Posts
On June 22 2011 01:54 Mairou wrote: Dreamhack had better players and better streams(only commercials between game series and able to choose from many different streams) Only thing that i didnt like was that they didnt show any players in stream until final game. They should show players reactions after game imo and instantly interview them. [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZSPGBUuZHU[/video] | ||
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CheM
Canada100 Posts
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bode927
United States164 Posts
I liked Dreamhack's schedule set-up a bit more, because you knew exactly which matches would be on at which times, where as MLG was more sporadic and harder to keep up with. I also like MLG's open bracket as an added stipulation to throw a little bit of twist into who goes into the final brackets. It's a bit more exciting than Dreamhack's group play, although both are decent Also Dreamhack's VODs were more accessible than MLG's were via Day9's Blip account. All that said, both were super great, and i watched both as much as I could. If we formed a hybrid lan with great shots of the crowd and the atmosphere at the event, plus day9, wheat, and tastosis casting, plus a schedule which was tightly organized, posted, and adhered to, as well as a mixed in open bracket, you'd have a very good event to spectate online. Dreamhack did the best job with this so far, but I would be super happy to see some side streams set up so that every big game was broadcasted... Like at MLG, every championship bracket game... It would be cool if they had them set up to be observed, even from 1 players POV with some backround music or something. | ||
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riderLyrae
United States45 Posts
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iMalware
United States32 Posts
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Drew34000
United States7 Posts
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Pezo
England156 Posts
Plus i was able to watch other games such as Quake Live TDM etc | ||
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Pipeline
Sweden1673 Posts
My only complaint for Dreamhack was that only the finals were broadcast in the Dreamarena Extreme. Obviously it would have been better to have the playoffs in the main arena instead of the player area. For the people complaining about lag or constant buffering all I can say is that it wasn't Dreamhacks fault. Justin.TV is to blame for that (the day 2 Europe blackout for example). My favourite part of Dreamhack summer was MC co-casting twice with Totalbiscuit! | ||
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alepov
Netherlands1132 Posts
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mister.bubbles
Canada171 Posts
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Waterhaak
Netherlands525 Posts
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
- Better playerpool - Better format - Muuuch better streaming quality + More streams, no games were missed. - FREE!!!! (Yes Columbus was free but that was just because of the major fuck-up called MLG Dallas) - Better non-starcraft tournaments. | ||
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Phant
United States737 Posts
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sefio
103 Posts
On June 22 2011 04:21 labbe wrote: Dreamhack because of: - Better playerpool - Better format - Muuuch better streaming quality + More streams, no games were missed. - FREE!!!! (Yes Columbus was free but that was just because of the major fuck-up called MLG Dallas) - Better non-starcraft tournaments. Thanks, now I don't have to think what I should write. I would say the first three things made Dreamhack much better. And less downtime. MLG was good too though. | ||
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sefio
103 Posts
On June 22 2011 02:05 MrKn4rz wrote: MLG because of Tastosis... cant compete with that. Dude.. MC & TB > Tastosis any day :D | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
I do love Dreamhack's VOD policy, though. | ||
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Azuroz
Sweden1630 Posts
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LittleJohn
Sweden204 Posts
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luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
On June 22 2011 04:59 Node wrote: I preferred MLG mainly because I was awake for most of it. I do love Dreamhack's VOD policy, though.I had exactly the opposite but the VOD policy of Dreamhack was really awesome and since it whent on on Monday I was very pleased Plus, of course Huk won although that White Ra and Hasu whent out with really horrible performances sucked especially since WR totally smashed his group and then seemed to totally tilt. Not saying they would have won but the way they lost was disapointing. | ||
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celox
United States1 Post
On June 21 2011 06:33 Garth wrote: Dreamhack cuz huk won. My thoughts exactly | ||
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Phyxx
Denmark681 Posts
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Frajs
Sweden4 Posts
Dreamhack is awesome at what it is supposed to do, and so is MLG. I don't really think you can compare it until Dreamhack makes the same efforts to incorporate a giant crowd, and not just for the final mind you. I also really like the loser brackets. I was very pleased with the GLHF coverage of the BYOC at Dreamhack, even though mr. Awesome-voice-for-nighttime-radio was missing (TheGunRun, right?), I found myself watching other streams muted while listening to GLHF more than once. Also I'm glad that it got delayed so I had something to watch later at night But as usual I wander off the point (there's a better expression here, right?) and that's enough before I make a wall of text Edit: I never feel like I can express what I mean, so whatever: They're great at different things and for different reasons. (Also I love djWHEAT's annoying and equally pleasing nasal voice. And he's awesome.) | ||
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Legace
Sweden342 Posts
On June 22 2011 05:13 luckybeni2 wrote: I had exactly the opposite but the VOD policy of Dreamhack was really awesome and since it whent on on Monday I was very pleased Plus, of course Huk won although that White Ra and Hasu whent out with really horrible performances sucked especially since WR totally smashed his group and then seemed to totally tilt. Not saying they would have won but the way they lost was disapointing. Losing to Moon whom also pushed Naniwa out of the tournament to later lose a tight final, I wouldn't really put much emphasis on it. Although I'd would have liked to see more "SPECIAL TAKTIKKS" from grandpa toss. Topic; For me atleast, Dreamhack was the more enjoyable event. * Better quality streams (for free). * Better coverages, ALL games where broadcasted. * Barely noteable delays, because of GoOdy and Xlord * Better tournament format except for BO3 semis. BO5 final could be argued. * Insanely fast VODs. * Better tournaments for other games to kill the downtime (if the VODs of games you missed weren't enough) * Moon and HuK flippin' a huge middle finger at all the haters. * IdrA losing to MC, again. * McBiscuit/TotalMC casting. | ||
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DrunknMaster
Sweden9 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On June 21 2011 19:52 bokeevboke wrote: Both > GSL for sure. If you prefer watching chobos instead of the best players in the world. Mlg for me. | ||
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JouriCarver
United Kingdom59 Posts
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j4ckd4v13z
United Kingdom98 Posts
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Hikari
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Gurgl
Sweden308 Posts
I haven´t had any streamissues at any of the dreamhackevents and the quality is better than MLGs HD while being free. Last MLG was good from a viewer perspective and I hope they keep improving but they have some way to go to reach DH in terms of quality of the streams. From a player perspective MLG seem to treat their players in the open bracket pretty badly(Thorzain and Morrow don´t want to go to Anaheim because of that f.ex). The format of MLG is messed up to be honest, I hope they take a look at that and make the necessary changes. It´s really annoying on the MLG stream that you get a commercial whenever you change quality or have to refresh it. I'm willing to pay for a stream without commercials that works as well as the DH stream but not for one with the ridiculous amount of commercials you get with the MLG stream. Dreamhack could improve their streaming website so it´s easier to see which games are being streamed where. It would be awesome to be able to see next to each stream which game is being casted atm. MLGs website is really difficult to navigate, I´ve given up on trying to find stuff on their site, it´s faster to just google for MLG schedules or whatever I´m looking for. I voted that both events were equally awesome, there are still things to improve but ESPORTS looks very promising with events like this. Well that turned out to be a wall of text, hopefully someone with influence reads it and improves something :p /end rant | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
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tonning
Norway111 Posts
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FragRaptor
United States184 Posts
MLG Columbus really laid an egg of story telling that really affected the wants of the crowd at dream hack. The koreans took Columbus and so everyone was extremely excited that huk won. The buzz of both tournaments really worked well in cohesion, thanks to none other than our favorite story teller, Day9! | ||
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Midgetman101
United States825 Posts
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
Dreamhack had to much money to throw into single BO3s.... | ||
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
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meams
United States41 Posts
Dreamhack should have allowed for the players to engage the crowd directly, as was done in MLG columbus. Watching MC react to all his American Fans was a great treat. Same goes for July and all the other Korean pros that probably didn't realize they had such gigantic followings here in the US. The GOM studio doesn't really have that many people packed in every day -- so seeing these mega-crowds for group stage games is probably pretty chill for them. I watched both tourneys. I would've watched 'em both regardless of relative quality. But i must say, objectively, that MLG Columbus took the win. Although Dreamhack is a much cooler name and scores bonuspoints fo having Day9 run it and post everything on his stream/site. It was better organized than MLG's Vods and shit like that. Day9's crew FTW. | ||
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applejuice
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MacroNcheesE
United States508 Posts
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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AcideL
United States1 Post
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
Separating the "main stage/tent" from the players made the crowd incomparable to the one at MLG. That energy really comes through in matches and I missed it very much. | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
Things DH had that were better: 5 streams not total Korean dominance + Show Spoiler + (thx HuK <3) MC + TB casting HuK vs Tarson Oh and MLG seemed to have had more drama. | ||
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
Also dreamhack seems like a more badass tounaments name than MLG. | ||
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EnWara
United States55 Posts
You can't go wrong with either tournament. | ||
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Coffins
Canada85 Posts
On June 22 2011 10:55 Bear4188 wrote: MLG was a lot more exciting for me. Separating the "main stage/tent" from the players made the crowd incomparable to the one at MLG. That energy really comes through in matches and I missed it very much. Yeah same here, the crowd gave me more nerdchills than half the games did :x | ||
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Satyric
68 Posts
Although I'm kind of sad that only the finals were played on stage, this probably wont be an issue at DHW11, seeing as SC2 has the highest community support out of all other games being played (on site, LoL was bigger online). But yeah, it's difficult to compare seeing as MLG and Dreamhack are very different. DH is so much more than just the tournaments. Edit: No thunderstorm would ever interfere with the swedish internets :-) | ||
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TMmingus
Sweden13 Posts
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kovac
Sweden123 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
MLG Dallas was much more enjoyable to watch, at least in the down time we could see the crowd. While still insulated, the crowd was much closer and much more apparent in the MLG tournament. You could here them better and saw them much more often. It gave the games more significance. The production was better, the stage was better, the lighting, I wasn't at either- but from the stream, IMO, it wasn't even a close call. | ||
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gm.tOSS
Germany898 Posts
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AfterEleven
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Satyric
68 Posts
On June 21 2011 16:47 zaii wrote: How many events does DH host a year compared to MLG? and totaly prize money? And there's still the fact that MLG is a league and DH is just one or two huge LANS. See that's why I said questionable. Don't know if this is responded to already, but DH has 5 SC2 events planned this year with a total of 810k SEK (roughly 127k USD) in prizes. So looking at facts MLG has like ~200k USD in prizes this year, with 6 events. But then again, over 17000 people attended at last DHW. Just looking at SC2, MLG is bigger when it comes to prizes and events, but looking at esports, I think they're pretty even. | ||
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lololol
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zYwi3c
Poland1811 Posts
MLG = Tastosis, MC and his ceremony, cameras in booths ( not only finals ), more games ( winner / losers brackets ), CROWD, Crowd + players in 1 place, at start we could see interviews with players - JP. Yeah, maybe Dreamhack had more streams etc, but overall imo MLG >>> Dreamhack | ||
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
I actually switched to the SVT stream, listening to swedish commentators, and they also had some interviews at the end, and was closer to the crowd. I found this stream to be much more professional then the Day9 stream. Sweden IS the internet. Truly amazing swedish stream. I think in time, TL need to learn swedish over korean ^^ | ||
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Zetter
Germany629 Posts
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anatem
Romania1369 Posts
On June 22 2011 09:14 meams wrote: The advantage MLG holds over Dreamhack is the dual-stream format for the majority of the games. The ability for me to turn of a TvT and instead watch a different matchup is a great benefit. The Red Stream/Blue STream was brilliant, especially since they had all my favorite casters running the various streams.] bro, you do know there were 5 english streams at DH showing all the games on a set schedule, while MLG had 2 streams which showed a pathetic amount of games and most of the time they were during break or showed the same game on both streams | ||
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Raol
Romania56 Posts
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Debarbie
Sweden204 Posts
Dreamhack is a big lan that has it tournament, Dreamhack focus is not on the tournament, its just a BIG + | ||
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Introvert
United States4741 Posts
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Uhaeiub
Germany8 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
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InFdude
Bulgaria619 Posts
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NicoLoco
Norway159 Posts
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noezke
England514 Posts
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Also, I felt that the quality of the games during the group stage was not high enough because players had to play all five matches in a roll. Some mixing would have helped a lot, I think. I missed Tastosis :/ and for some reason did not enjoy Day9's casting this time.. Perhaps he was too tired. Still, voted for Dreamhack. | ||
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Ravar
United States447 Posts
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Todes
Denmark29 Posts
MLG was good, real good! though i must admit i enjoyed DH more.. so.. my vote went to DH. | ||
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Moxi
708 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain17971 Posts
However, both events were absolutely top notch in terms of game quality, caster quality and sheer awesomeness. Looking forward to the next LAN! | ||
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Hypoxia
United States31 Posts
Americans screaming > Europeans clapping. | ||
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sefio
103 Posts
On June 23 2011 00:42 Hypoxia wrote: Voted MLG based on fan reactions (as I could gather from streams). Americans screaming > Europeans clapping. Well that's shocking looking at your location :D | ||
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Centorian
United States95 Posts
I think people are still riding off the excitement of the Huk win (which was awesome btw). | ||
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em0rej007
France36 Posts
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KangaRuthless
United States304 Posts
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Zevah
Argentina187 Posts
mlg just seemed better for me | ||
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elsrickle
Canada53 Posts
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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Jandos
Czech Republic928 Posts
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2904 Posts
The only times we got to see player cams was at the finals. | ||
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Fanta_Rules
Sweden669 Posts
On June 22 2011 00:34 Karakaxe wrote: Things Dreamhack needs to fix in no particular order: 1. Player + audience interaction (you can't cast an entire event without actually showing us any players except in the finals, that's really bad) 2. Semi finals can't be bo3, should be bo5 3. Finals can't be bo5, should be bo7 4. Have a real host (aka 2GD at the invitational) 5. Needs to use Dream Arena Extreme ALOT more (it's perfect, why don't they use it more? When they cast SC2 there, there are actually more people outside who wants to get in than there are people inside watching.) This. | ||
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BertiliO
Sweden134 Posts
On June 23 2011 01:24 Centorian wrote: How is Dreamhack beating MLG? Don't get me wrong, Dreamhack was great, but MLG was better in every aspect except stream quality. If MLG continues to improve at the rate they are improving it will become THE foreign tournament. I think people are still riding off the excitement of the Huk win (which was awesome btw). I don't know why some people feel like they need to force their opinions on others. The majority of people obviously don't agree with you that mlg was better in every aspect except for stream quality, yet you speak like your representing the whole comunity. | ||
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FenneK
France1231 Posts
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EtR Gravity
United States37 Posts
On June 21 2011 06:34 MrMotionPicture wrote: Both seemed pretty cool to me. I feel differently. They were actually quite a few games in both tourneys that I wanted to see but weren't streamed. Both were great IMO. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
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TroubL
Lithuania126 Posts
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Excelle
Sweden200 Posts
MLG had to many ad breaks, and always the same.. there was ad breaks here to but didt fall asleep. | ||
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Vectoor
Sweden62 Posts
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koksnuss
Germany2 Posts
DAY9! | ||
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Dissonance23
United States259 Posts
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Weson
Iceland1032 Posts
Dreamhack could have had better production with player interviewes. On the other hand Dreamhacks streams were much better and HD were free. So i ended up voting that they were equal. | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
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mholden02
387 Posts
MLG has many tech and scheduling problems to still iron out, but at the end of Dreamhack i felt pleased with a well run tournament and a satisfying winner - At the end of MLG I felt like I'd come off a 3 DAY ****ING EMOTIONAL ROLLER COASTER from all the drama, memorable moments, and amazing crowd - I was worn out from the ups and downs. I was totally emotionally invested in MLG in a way that I was not with Dreamhack. I felt like I was at MLG, but watching Dreamhack on my computer - that sums it up. So MLG gets the nod. Ideally MLG will learn how to run a tournament as smoothly as Dreamhack, and Dreamhack will learn how to create the MLG atmosphere through player cams, interviews, more crowd interaction ect ... Either way they're both great for E-Sports. | ||
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
Sure 5 streams is nice, but who's really gonna be able to watch all 5. Sometimes, I don't mind not having a choice. It's up to the content broadcaster to bring me good games, I don't mind missing less interesting games. Overall MLG had more energetic crowd, more player/community interactions, no final on Monday, and overall more epicness. Dreamhack is only the more recent event, which is why it has decent votes. | ||
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Ednar
Sweden6 Posts
Also, for those who attended the event, it was great to be able to walk between the Day9 tent and TotalBuscuit stage with no hassle. This could not have been done with the big stage. It was also possible for us to easily be able to talk to the players, or watch them play, at any given time. All in all, Dreamhack is a lan, and great as such. It also happens to host a really good SC2 tournament just because they can. Obviously the admins want it to be as good as possible, and I think that they did a great job with the limited recourses they had. Both are excellent events. | ||
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CosmicHippo
United States547 Posts
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Jackhammer19
United States18 Posts
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Aus.Force
Australia1278 Posts
Both provided some epic games though. | ||
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Tali
United States41 Posts
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
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NicoLoco
Norway159 Posts
On June 23 2011 01:24 Centorian wrote: How is Dreamhack beating MLG? Don't get me wrong, Dreamhack was great, but MLG was better in every aspect except stream quality. If MLG continues to improve at the rate they are improving it will become THE foreign tournament. I think people are still riding off the excitement of the Huk win (which was awesome btw). I don't think that is a fair statement. There where no lag-screens in DH, the quality of players was much higher (by quite some margine), the event itself is just huuuuge and there where little to no hiccups. That being said, I voted for MLG just for crowd reactions. I agree with the guy 3 posts before me who states that crowd at DH where just clapping while the Americans at MLG where off the hook roaring! | ||
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Nevarix
Sweden294 Posts
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lololol
5198 Posts
On June 23 2011 05:51 EtR Gravity wrote: I feel differently. They were actually quite a few games in both tourneys that I wanted to see but weren't streamed. Both were great IMO. What? There were 5 english streams and 4 in other languages. | ||
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T-oastbro-T
Germany378 Posts
On the other hand, the DH-streams were much better in my opinion. Firstly, there was never dead air while matches were being played somewhere else, due to the number of streams. Secondly, the quality of the streams itself was far ahead of MLG's, who seem to have used some kind of softening-filter on the picture to make it look smoother. This may have covered the fact, that the streams weren't broadcasted even close to HD (even with the HQ-option), but in return blurred everything beyond recognition, especially the supply-count in the upper-right corner. In the end, I enjoyed both events very much. There were plenty of awesome matches and the production was very professional, especially the casting. Will watch MLG Anaheim as well as the next Dreamhack. =) EDIT: The updates of the standings and match-results were better at MLG. The binarybeast-site Dreamhack used was obviously not prepared for the load of that many visitors and thus crashed regularly. | ||
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qqK
Germany282 Posts
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CAPSLOCKED
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WwA-Ace
66 Posts
On June 21 2011 06:49 FlopTurnReaver wrote: Definitly MLG, just the athmosphere was so much better (sry, but games in a tent without the players in sight..) Also there were more games, more players, more drama.. just generally more excitement. Only reason why Dreamhack is winning now imo is 1. because Huk won and 2. because it just ended a few hours ago which still makes you kinda be in that euphoria. Dude... Let's see commercials and laggy stream + supposedly double stream where the other pair of casters is taking a break while games are going on. Quality of streams was better only I have to agree with the atmosphere which is why I voted for equally great. One thing about dreamhack is the bo3 in quarter final and semi final which seamed like a pity to me. Group stages were better than MLG IMO. | ||
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
So hard to say. | ||
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uSiN
United States208 Posts
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Kong John
Denmark1020 Posts
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Vinx
Canada259 Posts
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wouterdl
Belgium33 Posts
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Nego
United States15 Posts
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Eckman
Germany5 Posts
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JonB
Sweden325 Posts
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TuElite
Canada2123 Posts
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ThePhan2m
Norway2750 Posts
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bUubzila
Poland12 Posts
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czar
United States3 Posts
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Zketch
Sweden34 Posts
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NemesysTV
United States1088 Posts
On June 21 2011 06:33 Garth wrote: Dreamhack cuz huk won. Same and epic ceremony :O | ||
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Karthane
United States1183 Posts
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iMudkipz
Sweden17 Posts
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Project Psycho
United Kingdom329 Posts
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Tom_Morrow
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QuoC
United States724 Posts
dream? MyStErIoUs! check. hack? LEET! check. yep, dreamhack cause of the name. | ||
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holycrapitsTony
United States330 Posts
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Me1234
Germany219 Posts
dreamhack a bit more because I got to watch different stuff, not just SC2. I know MLG has other stuff too but I dont care about Halo or COD | ||
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Raid
United States398 Posts
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WhiteraCares
Sweden339 Posts
Professionalism and great production value makes me hot. | ||
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neooffs
Brazil34 Posts
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kalteras
United States72 Posts
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Herry
England681 Posts
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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Frankon
3054 Posts
Reasons: 1. As people noticed both MLG and DH run at times that were bad for the other continent. So MLG cannot get my vote in that matter. Ok this point shouldnt be considered so no points given ;P 2. Vods. Missed almost all the games on monday and could watch them easy with vods later. Than we have MLG... Didnt see the finals of MMA vs Losira and when i tried to find the vod i only could find their previous match... Plus for DH 3. Interaction with the on site viewers. Well MLG has a slight advantage over DH Summer 2011 but.. Lets look at it from the other perspective. Due to the closeness of the people MLG coundnt cast the most anticipated matchup - the rematch of Thorzain vs MC.... So i would make it a draw with slight favoring of MLG. 4. Streaming of the matches. Lets see. MLG - 2 streams with lots of breaks (for the celebrity casters...) sometimes even showing the same match... In all many games weren't streamed. Now DH: 5 english streams, 1 german , 1 finish. Covering all matches and even some of the BYOC qualifiers. Perfect scheduling (well almost perfect. Who in the right mind puts Goody in a group with 2 other terrans that are known for their macro style...). All streams were true HD and free with instant vods. And back to casters... There is no comparison TotalBiscuit & oGsMC > Tastosis. Point for DH 5. Length of the tournament Both run for 3 days. MLG has a slight advantage do to the fact it didnt finish on monday !!! But on the other hand DH offered more to the players who fail their groups or BYOC#1. Both on sunday and monday there were additional BYOC tournaments (#2 and #3) that had some prices and more important the slots for the next DH. Point for DH 6. Price pool MLG - if you dont win it wont cover your expenses in going there... DH - Hell im at top of western esports money ^^ | ||
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sogek1ng
Norway8 Posts
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Zyori
United States48 Posts
Both events were totally awesome, but I have to give it to MLG Columbus. The event was a lot bigger for StarCraft and the audience just wasn't the same in Sweden. | ||
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Stallion
New Zealand67 Posts
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theliman2000
United States45 Posts
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DrunkenJedi
Germany175 Posts
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
On June 21 2011 06:48 VGhost wrote: I feel like MLG had better scheduling in theory, Dreamhack streams were better. MLG player pool and finals were better, extended series and all. Monday finals brackets playoff really got me, too. Voted MLG. I feel just the opposite. I feel like the MLG production was better than the MLG one. The dreamhack player pool was imo much stronger that of MLG on an average. That being said, the top tier didnt change too much. MLG finals was totally uninteresting for me since it didnt involve any foreigner drama. Dreamhack on the other hand was great due to HUKs astonashing play. All in all, I think MLG has a better production/potential while Dreamhack actually had a final to keep me interested. On June 24 2011 22:46 Zyori wrote: Having attended both of these events, its really hard to compare them. The actual starcraft tournament at DreamHack is relatively small compared to that of MLG. DreamHack is more about the people that come and bring their own systems to game nonstop for 3 days. MLG is much more about the players and giving the live viewers a great showing. Both events were totally awesome, but I have to give it to MLG Columbus. The event was a lot bigger for StarCraft and the audience just wasn't the same in Sweden. Sorry if youre a player and I dont know who you are of you but I have to ask. Are you a player or just a spectator that has attended both venues ? How come you decided to go to Sweden? I heard there were more spectators at DHS than MLG. This might be wrong tho. | ||
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blae000
Norway1640 Posts
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JtG
Czech Republic3 Posts
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Zyori
United States48 Posts
Sorry if youre a player and I dont know who you are of you but I have to ask. Are you a player or just a spectator that has attended both venues ? How come you decided to go to Sweden? I heard there were more spectators at DHS than MLG. This might be wrong tho I'm not a player, I went to DreamHack has a spectator. I've done some media stuff at MLG, but I have not played in any of the tournaments. A couple of my friends are doing a semester abroad so I planned a trip to visit around DreamHack; I figured I could kill two bird with one stone. As far as spectators, there were certainly more people at DreamHack than MLG; however, the majority of them didn't seem to care about StarCraft at all. Day9's tent was generally full but it wasn't very big, probably about 1/6 of the seating in the starcraft mainstage area at MLG. The stage that Totalbiscuit was casting on was relatively small also. Probably about 50 seats or so. At MLG the players are instantly swarmed by fans asking for pictures and autographs after they play matches. A lot of the big players try to minimize their time on the floor so they don't get swarmed with fans. At DraemHack the players were just mingling outside the player area and it was no big thing. Occasionally someone would ask MC for a picture, but that was about it. I spoke to Ret for a while and said that he liked MLG better because it was much more exciting for the players. | ||
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senex
Sweden25 Posts
On June 22 2011 02:00 MLGrben wrote: Dreamhack was sick, I watched a ton. Wish I could see our events from a spectator point of view instead of in the back trying to make sure it all works with the rest of the crew. Hopefully both MLG and Dreamhack continue to improve at a rate that is nuts. PS. I want to plug MLG into Dreamhack winter if they will have us. DreamHack welcomes all, we be interwebz.... | ||
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mandazi
United States9 Posts
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