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Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
June 24 2011 09:33 GMT
#301
I voted for DH.

Reasons:
1. As people noticed both MLG and DH run at times that were bad for the other continent. So MLG cannot get my vote in that matter. Ok this point shouldnt be considered so no points given ;P
2. Vods. Missed almost all the games on monday and could watch them easy with vods later. Than we have MLG... Didnt see the finals of MMA vs Losira and when i tried to find the vod i only could find their previous match... Plus for DH
3. Interaction with the on site viewers. Well MLG has a slight advantage over DH Summer 2011 but..
Lets look at it from the other perspective. Due to the closeness of the people MLG coundnt cast the most anticipated matchup - the rematch of Thorzain vs MC.... So i would make it a draw with slight favoring of MLG.
4. Streaming of the matches.
Lets see. MLG - 2 streams with lots of breaks (for the celebrity casters...) sometimes even showing the same match... In all many games weren't streamed.
Now DH: 5 english streams, 1 german , 1 finish. Covering all matches and even some of the BYOC qualifiers. Perfect scheduling (well almost perfect. Who in the right mind puts Goody in a group with 2 other terrans that are known for their macro style...). All streams were true HD and free with instant vods.
And back to casters... There is no comparison TotalBiscuit & oGsMC > Tastosis.
Point for DH
5. Length of the tournament
Both run for 3 days. MLG has a slight advantage do to the fact it didnt finish on monday !!!
But on the other hand DH offered more to the players who fail their groups or BYOC#1. Both on sunday and monday there were additional BYOC tournaments (#2 and #3) that had some prices and more important the slots for the next DH.
Point for DH
6. Price pool
MLG - if you dont win it wont cover your expenses in going there...
DH - Hell im at top of western esports money ^^
sogek1ng
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway8 Posts
June 24 2011 12:35 GMT
#302
MGL for the matches, DH for the streams.
Siege is here
Zyori
Profile Joined June 2011
United States48 Posts
June 24 2011 13:46 GMT
#303
Having attended both of these events, its really hard to compare them. The actual starcraft tournament at DreamHack is relatively small compared to that of MLG. DreamHack is more about the people that come and bring their own systems to game nonstop for 3 days. MLG is much more about the players and giving the live viewers a great showing.

Both events were totally awesome, but I have to give it to MLG Columbus. The event was a lot bigger for StarCraft and the audience just wasn't the same in Sweden.
Twitter: @ZyoriStarCraft | Website: http://www.hypercrew.com
Stallion
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand67 Posts
June 24 2011 14:09 GMT
#304
i think this poll will slant towards dream hack a bit because HuK won but i think both were very good tournaments
theliman2000
Profile Joined August 2010
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 14:39:34
June 24 2011 14:39 GMT
#305
USA! USA!
DrunkenJedi
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany175 Posts
June 24 2011 14:41 GMT
#306
I loved Dreamhack but MLG Columbus wasn't that bad either. At least better than last MLG.
"Don't worry, I use Special Tactics this time, no problem."
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 14:49:23
June 24 2011 14:41 GMT
#307
On June 21 2011 06:48 VGhost wrote:
I feel like MLG had better scheduling in theory, Dreamhack streams were better. MLG player pool and finals were better, extended series and all. Monday finals brackets playoff really got me, too. Voted MLG.

I feel just the opposite. I feel like the MLG production was better than the MLG one. The dreamhack player pool was imo much stronger that of MLG on an average. That being said, the top tier didnt change too much. MLG finals was totally uninteresting for me since it didnt involve any foreigner drama. Dreamhack on the other hand was great due to HUKs astonashing play.

All in all, I think MLG has a better production/potential while Dreamhack actually had a final to keep me interested.
On June 24 2011 22:46 Zyori wrote:
Having attended both of these events, its really hard to compare them. The actual starcraft tournament at DreamHack is relatively small compared to that of MLG. DreamHack is more about the people that come and bring their own systems to game nonstop for 3 days. MLG is much more about the players and giving the live viewers a great showing.

Both events were totally awesome, but I have to give it to MLG Columbus. The event was a lot bigger for StarCraft and the audience just wasn't the same in Sweden.

Sorry if youre a player and I dont know who you are of you but I have to ask.

Are you a player or just a spectator that has attended both venues ? How come you decided to go to Sweden? I heard there were more spectators at DHS than MLG. This might be wrong tho.
4649!!
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 15:39:31
June 24 2011 15:39 GMT
#308
*Edit

wrong post >o<!!
Liquid
JtG
Profile Joined April 2011
Czech Republic3 Posts
June 24 2011 16:02 GMT
#309
Since there is no chance of me getting to any of these events in the near future, as a mere stream-watcher I have to go with Dreamhack because of better streaming quality for free - I didn't experience any lag and I've had both main stream playing all day at HD quality. Altough its lack of Tastosis concerns me. But I guess 3 main stream might be too many (because I would never give up TB ^^) or at least technically more difficult than just two.
"I work out like a motherfucker. And I watch porn to learn stuff."
Zyori
Profile Joined June 2011
United States48 Posts
June 25 2011 05:58 GMT
#310

Sorry if youre a player and I dont know who you are of you but I have to ask.

Are you a player or just a spectator that has attended both venues ? How come you decided to go to Sweden? I heard there were more spectators at DHS than MLG. This might be wrong tho


I'm not a player, I went to DreamHack has a spectator. I've done some media stuff at MLG, but I have not played in any of the tournaments. A couple of my friends are doing a semester abroad so I planned a trip to visit around DreamHack; I figured I could kill two bird with one stone.

As far as spectators, there were certainly more people at DreamHack than MLG; however, the majority of them didn't seem to care about StarCraft at all. Day9's tent was generally full but it wasn't very big, probably about 1/6 of the seating in the starcraft mainstage area at MLG. The stage that Totalbiscuit was casting on was relatively small also. Probably about 50 seats or so.

At MLG the players are instantly swarmed by fans asking for pictures and autographs after they play matches. A lot of the big players try to minimize their time on the floor so they don't get swarmed with fans. At DraemHack the players were just mingling outside the player area and it was no big thing. Occasionally someone would ask MC for a picture, but that was about it. I spoke to Ret for a while and said that he liked MLG better because it was much more exciting for the players.
Twitter: @ZyoriStarCraft | Website: http://www.hypercrew.com
senex
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden25 Posts
June 26 2011 12:23 GMT
#311
On June 22 2011 02:00 MLGrben wrote:
Dreamhack was sick, I watched a ton. Wish I could see our events from a spectator point of view instead of in the back trying to make sure it all works with the rest of the crew.

Hopefully both MLG and Dreamhack continue to improve at a rate that is nuts.

PS. I want to plug MLG into Dreamhack winter if they will have us.


DreamHack welcomes all, we be interwebz....
BossDH
mandazi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States9 Posts
July 19 2011 06:39 GMT
#312
NASL for sure.
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