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Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
February 03 2011 21:36 GMT
#141
oops
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
February 03 2011 21:41 GMT
#142
I don't see why a single person can vote anything other than IM.

Imagine if Flash and Jaedong were on the same team in BW...
Slivered Skin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada347 Posts
February 03 2011 21:47 GMT
#143
People are voting for teams with powerful players, but not necessarily powerful teams. Sure, people like MVP, Nestea and MC are beasts on their own, but all it takes is a single bad map or a single cheesy loss for the entire team to lose momentum and lose.

I'm going against the flow and voting for the underdog here. ZeNex has a considerable lineup of decent players, and they should be able to take out a few of the more prestigious teams out there.

Now watch as they get eliminated by Slayers first round.
Those most oft mated find love’s motive in a word: inebriated - Get well Violet!! And sC!! T_T
PhantomHybrid
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom47 Posts
February 03 2011 21:59 GMT
#144
I voted IM Nestea and MVP are just so good atm. I feel OGS vs IM will be the true final whoever wins that will win the tourny. Unless Zenex have some cheesey wins and I feel that many of there players like that style. Byun is awsome however.

I just feel the way it plays out MVP could easily take out the whole OGS team.
Woo
ThisIsEdg3
Profile Joined November 2010
England45 Posts
February 03 2011 22:04 GMT
#145
IM has Nestea and MVP. I don't even know any other IM players but these two should be more than enough for victory.

If Nestea and MVP are beaten though, oGs will win, MC is the boss.
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
February 03 2011 22:07 GMT
#146
It's crazy how ZeNex is in last even though they are been doing great in team tournaments.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
February 03 2011 23:06 GMT
#147
hmm IM has definetly the best two players... I think only oGs can beat them with MC
BigJoe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States210 Posts
February 03 2011 23:51 GMT
#148
think oGs will win but IM also has some good players. If oGs doesn't slip up then they should pull out on top.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 00:01:31
February 04 2011 00:01 GMT
#149
IMLosira, IMYoda, IMGanzi, IMMvp IMNestea

voted Startale
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
BennyTurner
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia49 Posts
February 04 2011 00:09 GMT
#150
I really can't see anyone on oGs beating both Nestea and MVP. MC might get through one of them but I can't see him beating both of them...
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SniperSamS2
Profile Joined February 2011
United States8 Posts
February 04 2011 01:09 GMT
#151
SCV Life with tester and fruit dealer winner of the 1st season of gsl
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Beneather
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada451 Posts
February 04 2011 01:34 GMT
#152
I vote for TEAM LIQUID... no TL? THEN GO OGs!
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DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
February 04 2011 02:11 GMT
#153
Gotta show some love for OGs ^_^
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
February 04 2011 02:46 GMT
#154
On February 04 2011 06:47 Slivered Skin wrote:
People are voting for teams with powerful players, but not necessarily powerful teams. Sure, people like MVP, Nestea and MC are beasts on their own, but all it takes is a single bad map or a single cheesy loss for the entire team to lose momentum and lose.

I'm going against the flow and voting for the underdog here. ZeNex has a considerable lineup of decent players, and they should be able to take out a few of the more prestigious teams out there.

Now watch as they get eliminated by Slayers first round.


All-kill format puts a TREMENDOUS advantage on having 1-2 amazing players over 4-5 good ones.
Look at SWL 2010-2011.

KT is undefeated and their lineup is basically: Flash, Stats, and stable of scrubs
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
February 04 2011 03:15 GMT
#155
I really don't understand why zenex is last :S I think they'll be in the finals.
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Slivered Skin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada347 Posts
February 04 2011 04:13 GMT
#156
On February 04 2011 11:46 xxpack09 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2011 06:47 Slivered Skin wrote:
People are voting for teams with powerful players, but not necessarily powerful teams. Sure, people like MVP, Nestea and MC are beasts on their own, but all it takes is a single bad map or a single cheesy loss for the entire team to lose momentum and lose.

I'm going against the flow and voting for the underdog here. ZeNex has a considerable lineup of decent players, and they should be able to take out a few of the more prestigious teams out there.

Now watch as they get eliminated by Slayers first round.


All-kill format puts a TREMENDOUS advantage on having 1-2 amazing players over 4-5 good ones.
Look at SWL 2010-2011.

KT is undefeated and their lineup is basically: Flash, Stats, and stable of scrubs


While this is most definitely true with BW, SC2 is still a very new game still in it's infancy stages of development. We regularly see decent players get trashed by lesser ones using unusual or uncommon builds, and the proper BOs for each match-up haven't been fully defined yet. Just look at that 3-roach+ling build that's been floating around TL; the original author claimed to have beaten some decent pros with it, even though he was not necessarily at their caliber.

Because of this, even teams with powerful players such as oGs and IM can be knocked out relatively early on if they face/use the wrong strat. We also can't discount the maps that we're going to be seeing; a good number of them have certain "gimmicky" features, such as destructible rocks or smoke screens, that can suddenly swing a game completely around. The new maps will also bring in an unknown factor as well, which certainly wont help. Just look at the last ZOTAC cup - MVP was beaten by Puzzle, MC was taken out by sC, NesTea was killed by aLive.

I guess what I'm trying to say here is that it's incredibly hard to predict the winner of the GSTL. Too many unknowns, too many variables, too many uncertainties. Hell, we don't even know half of the players that will most likely be participating. Anything could happen. And in this scenario, I'm rooting for the team with:
a) the largest lineup and the most options.
b) the team that has players with, I find, a good amount of potential.
Those most oft mated find love’s motive in a word: inebriated - Get well Violet!! And sC!! T_T
Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
February 04 2011 05:22 GMT
#157
between Nestea and MVP, IM has it no problem
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51129 Posts
February 04 2011 08:30 GMT
#158
On February 02 2011 05:03 zerious wrote:
1. Send (T)MVP.
2. Profit.


haha the KT formula!
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Kici
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland57 Posts
February 04 2011 10:53 GMT
#159
When this tournament starts?
Boxer :*
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
February 04 2011 12:31 GMT
#160
hoping prime, expecting IM.
but as for prime, mkp can be sniped easily, while any team up against IM has to have 2 snipers ready
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
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