EPTGSTL Winner?
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go BoxeR!!! | ||
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pred470r
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decaf
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I like IM better anyways. Nestea is a baller. | ||
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zerious
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 MVP.2. Profit. | ||
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LittLeD
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Voted IM | ||
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Latham
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teh_longinator
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+ Show Spoiler + because they had NesTea and MVP, two first place winners. | ||
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gideel
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i wish  | ||
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Triscuit
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eddytlaw
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Cause i heard that technicall TL is part of oGs or something. | ||
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knyttym
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Would like to see TSL do well though. | ||
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Antoine
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Bomber | ||
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aPhanther
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Anyway, I voted OGS because of TL bias  | ||
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Velocity`
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LaO-Tyros_Reffa
Netherlands50 Posts
On February 02 2011 08:29 Callous wrote: Doesn't oGs stand for 'Old Generation Starcrafters' rather than 'Old Generations'? Anyway, there's no way IM or oGs is going to lose this, they have the best players by far. Wish Liquid` was invited to this league though, would've been awesome. It wasn't by 'invite' afaik, it's based on points scored in the GSL's so far. 1.6 point per S-class player, 1 point per A-class player. Liquid just doesn't have enough players 'in' there - YET | ||
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MrMotionPicture
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noD
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ogs is a several monsters team and i want to change xD | ||
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Mentalizor
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ZergMaestro
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Inside.Out
Canada569 Posts
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
*looks at ZOTAC cup results* | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On February 02 2011 09:06 GenesisX wrote: I want oGs but... + Show Spoiler + *looks at ZOTAC cup results* I don't think the players who were still in the GSL took that tournament very seriously. | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
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p4NDemik
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
IM SCV are my favourites | ||
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arterian
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Azuricate
Sweden35 Posts
2nd IM Definitely | ||
semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
On February 02 2011 06:17 eddytlaw wrote: Def OGS...will any TL players play? or is it just Koreans. Cause i heard that technicall TL is part of oGs or something. TL is not part of Ogs. TLAF-Liquid` will not play in this GSTL. | ||
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Trion
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HeroHenry
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speedphlux
Bulgaria962 Posts
BTW, why no TLAF-Liquid in that tourney ? I've heard these guys were good and actually way more entertaining then ... say ... ZeNEX. Just sayin'. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9016 Posts
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chowZilla
Canada57 Posts
oGs only has the best protoss (MC) IM has better odds but i'd like to see a group match between the 3 zomg nerd boner | ||
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Realpenguin
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IM baby all the way | ||
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Trizz
Netherlands1318 Posts
you heard it here first. | ||
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Offhand
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Kibibit
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misirlou
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Phayt
Canada346 Posts
That's just sad. Startale gets my vote for sure. | ||
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jalstar
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kagemucha
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On February 02 2011 14:44 kagemucha wrote: IM is gonna take this They have 2 killer aces, NesTea nd MVP. oGs is good, but I honestly can't think of anyone really good on oGs besides MC really. The other oGs guys aren't producing results. Nada, Ensnare, StC, TOP, Cezzane, and Inca can take out all but the very top players. So 4-2 in oGs's favor if it isn't winner stays format. | ||
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beat farm
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War Horse
United States247 Posts
Startale looked really solid. Bomber is legit even if he still isn't in Code A | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
TSL: 1 GSL winner oGs: 1 GSL winner Incredible Miracle fighting! ^^ | ||
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Wren
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Kazzabiss
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Sarchasm
South Africa64 Posts
decided on TSL | ||
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Morisal
United States95 Posts
On February 02 2011 15:54 Wren wrote: Gonna be the best Terran that takes down the team competition. Terran are nastily overpowered and MVP is really playing well right now. He's probably enough to carry the team to the win. balance discussion on team match thread -_- seriously? | ||
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zecherShock
Netherlands25 Posts
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kagemucha
United States326 Posts
On February 02 2011 14:58 jalstar wrote: Nada, Ensnare, StC, TOP, Cezzane, and Inca can take out all but the very top players. So 4-2 in oGs's favor if it isn't winner stays format. I thought it was winners stay, but if it isn't then I would def. agree that IM doesn't have the depth to win this. Can't find official rules anywhere, someone point me to the right direction? | ||
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Narcind
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Befree
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I think ST is probably going to win this one. I think IM is being way overrated at 38% of the vote. | ||
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mardi
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Xerrea
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Pixel.
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On February 02 2011 16:52 kagemucha wrote: I thought it was winners stay, but if it isn't then I would def. agree that IM doesn't have the depth to win this. Can't find official rules anywhere, someone point me to the right direction? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187502 Its winner stays. Thats why I think IM's got this | ||
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CarlMikael
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Skillig
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jlim
Spain943 Posts
These are my feelings too. | ||
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StarN
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Cosmos
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CrazyCow
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Deadlyfish
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sVnteen
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Torch and Ace ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeee | ||
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Aragos
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Torumfroll
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MrJargon
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Voted Prime btw | ||
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QuixoticO
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f0X
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chrisolo
Germany2606 Posts
I do not care, if they are not competing. You'll always be the winner of the hearts ♥ ツ (dunno, if you can say this in english, because it is a german saying, but I guess everyone understands it^^) | ||
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sluggaslamoo
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seRapH
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On February 03 2011 03:58 sluggaslamoo wrote: Why is team liquid not competing? They didn't qualify. The qualification was based on # of Code S and Code A players, with the top 8 teams able to participate. team liquid was ranked 9th | ||
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darmousseh
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The Final Boss
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Kazzabiss
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http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/leagues/834_ZOTAC_Team_Invitational/player_stats | ||
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Sablar
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emc
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Fenrisulf
United States325 Posts
MC seems to be in a slump lately and he seems to be only one capable of taking MVP out right now... I can still hope though.... | ||
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antzilla
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DisaFear
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
Ro8 Match 1: ST vs fOu Ro8 Match 2: Prime vs TSL Ro8 Match 3: oGs vs IM Ro8 Match 4: ZeNEX vs SlayerS | ||
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WhiteWolfx
Australia66 Posts
On February 02 2011 04:16 EmilA wrote: Voted oGs but might as well be IM. But odds are that nestea drone drone drone and ogs win. you have no idea how hard i laughed when i read that message, even though i sorta agree with you, i think nestea can beat mc the way he is now =) | ||
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Kici
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Kici
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havox_
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ishboh
United States954 Posts
IM TSL in that order i think... edit: (in likelihood to win, not in overall standings at the end...as it looks like IM and oGs are playing first round) | ||
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Klamity
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Yorku
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KDN
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lurked
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With that in mind, I think oGs, IM, TSL and fOu have the most chances to win. | ||
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znowstorm
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Proto_Protoss
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Proto_Protoss
United States495 Posts
On February 04 2011 04:18 sudo.era wrote: Could anybody enlighten me as to why Team Liquid isn't in the running? If memory serves me correctly TL guys play on the oGs team sometimes, but for this specific tournament i'm sure they didn't. Not to bash the TL guys but TL on their own would hardly stand a chance in a team league, except for Jinro of course but he cant win it on his own. | ||
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Kazzabiss
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On February 04 2011 01:53 lurked wrote: I really think that oGs will win, as the team league will reward the teams with the most solid and constant players, not the "1star player" teams. With that in mind, I think oGs, IM, TSL and fOu have the most chances to win. No, actually it does reward "1 player" teams, it's in an all-kill format fOu is the worst team btw, there best player is Choya who is DQ'd (which is funny because Choya isn't that good anyway) | ||
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Kazzabiss
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Kazzabiss
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
Imagine if Flash and Jaedong were on the same team in BW... | ||
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Slivered Skin
Canada347 Posts
I'm going against the flow and voting for the underdog here. ZeNex has a considerable lineup of decent players, and they should be able to take out a few of the more prestigious teams out there. Now watch as they get eliminated by Slayers first round. | ||
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PhantomHybrid
United Kingdom47 Posts
I just feel the way it plays out MVP could easily take out the whole OGS team. | ||
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ThisIsEdg3
England45 Posts
If Nestea and MVP are beaten though, oGs will win, MC is the boss. | ||
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Beardedclam
United States839 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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BigJoe
United States210 Posts
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skrzmark
United States1528 Posts
voted Startale | ||
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BennyTurner
Australia49 Posts
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SniperSamS2
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Beneather
Canada451 Posts
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DMXD
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On February 04 2011 06:47 Slivered Skin wrote: People are voting for teams with powerful players, but not necessarily powerful teams. Sure, people like MVP, Nestea and MC are beasts on their own, but all it takes is a single bad map or a single cheesy loss for the entire team to lose momentum and lose. I'm going against the flow and voting for the underdog here. ZeNex has a considerable lineup of decent players, and they should be able to take out a few of the more prestigious teams out there. Now watch as they get eliminated by Slayers first round. All-kill format puts a TREMENDOUS advantage on having 1-2 amazing players over 4-5 good ones. Look at SWL 2010-2011. KT is undefeated and their lineup is basically: Flash, Stats, and stable of scrubs | ||
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
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Slivered Skin
Canada347 Posts
On February 04 2011 11:46 xxpack09 wrote: All-kill format puts a TREMENDOUS advantage on having 1-2 amazing players over 4-5 good ones. Look at SWL 2010-2011. KT is undefeated and their lineup is basically: Flash, Stats, and stable of scrubs While this is most definitely true with BW, SC2 is still a very new game still in it's infancy stages of development. We regularly see decent players get trashed by lesser ones using unusual or uncommon builds, and the proper BOs for each match-up haven't been fully defined yet. Just look at that 3-roach+ling build that's been floating around TL; the original author claimed to have beaten some decent pros with it, even though he was not necessarily at their caliber. Because of this, even teams with powerful players such as oGs and IM can be knocked out relatively early on if they face/use the wrong strat. We also can't discount the maps that we're going to be seeing; a good number of them have certain "gimmicky" features, such as destructible rocks or smoke screens, that can suddenly swing a game completely around. The new maps will also bring in an unknown factor as well, which certainly wont help. Just look at the last ZOTAC cup - MVP was beaten by Puzzle, MC was taken out by sC, NesTea was killed by aLive. I guess what I'm trying to say here is that it's incredibly hard to predict the winner of the GSTL. Too many unknowns, too many variables, too many uncertainties. Hell, we don't even know half of the players that will most likely be participating. Anything could happen. And in this scenario, I'm rooting for the team with: a) the largest lineup and the most options. b) the team that has players with, I find, a good amount of potential. | ||
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Mario1209
United States1077 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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haha the KT formula! | ||
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Kici
Poland57 Posts
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
but as for prime, mkp can be sniped easily, while any team up against IM has to have 2 snipers ready | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
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Cel.erity
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Mephiztopheles1
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
On February 05 2011 00:44 Cel.erity wrote: Surprised fOu is getting so few votes, I feel they are the 3rd best team behind IM and oGs. Why would anyone vote for the 3rd best team to win the whole thing? ^^ | ||
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oxxo
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OmniEulogy
Canada6592 Posts
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annyongmakarax
Korea (South)11 Posts
i want oGs MC NaDa Top ensnare Hwaiting! if oGs wins vs IM its a easy win for ogS unless someone defeeats them | ||
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Kazzabiss
1006 Posts
On February 05 2011 00:44 Cel.erity wrote: Surprised fOu is getting so few votes, I feel they are the 3rd best team behind IM and oGs. No, not even close fOu is probably the worst team, their best player is Choya (lol), who is DQ'd, so the only other notable player they have is the horribly slumping Leenock. And to the people mindlessly auto-voting IM and oGs... NEXPuzzle all-killed both of them in the ZOTAC Invitational (which was just las month) and IM ended dead last at 2-6 (lol) and oGs was only 4-4; ZeNex took second overall behind Startale. Although this is the same format as WL, it's still best of ones, and players play differently in Team Leagues | ||
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RYZmooN
Canada575 Posts
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Crysus
New Zealand29 Posts
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hypno_toad
United States156 Posts
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Hunterai
Thailand842 Posts
IM will win this. With both Nestea and Mvp on the team, it's hard to vote against IM. oGs and Prime have a lot of players in GSL S/A class, however, only oGsMC and MKP that I'd consider at the top level, so these two can win it but with the winner leagues format I sill think IM has the edge. STARTALE and ZENEX, I think, are the ones that will have an outiside chance. They cannot be dismissed so easily based on their performance in the ZOTAC team league in which they came in 1st and 2nd respectively. TSL, I think is the most overrated of all (TSLCliiiiiiiiiiide, anyone?). TSLFruitDealer and TSLTrickers are not dominating like they used to during the Beta. And TSLRain is positively in a free-fall now. That said, I think they are still a class above fOU and SlayerS fOU and SlayerS, I think are going to be the punching bag for in any team competition unless they can find more quality players. | ||
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sawedust
United States506 Posts
After IM I'd have to go with oGs, they have a lot of top-notch players on their team such as MC and Top to name a couple. It'd be interesting to see how this one will turn out. | ||
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Archvil3
Denmark989 Posts
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
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Bubbu
United States6 Posts
Bomber, Puzzle, mvp, NesTea, MKP, and MC are all scary, but most teams don't have the depth, so snipes are likely. I'd say oGs is second strongest. | ||
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Dyce
United States18 Posts
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whaty0uwant
New Zealand346 Posts
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LetoAtreides82
United States1188 Posts
On February 02 2011 04:55 anatem wrote: voted ogs but im may likely take it if they throw in mvp and nestea from the start vs. ogs in the group stage It's an all-kill format so IM would be better off saving Nestea and MVP for last. | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
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ccHaZaRd
Canada1024 Posts
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splints
Canada85 Posts
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Apoo
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On February 06 2011 20:53 Apoo wrote: Nestea and MVP are going to demolish the rest, but i think Startale, ogs and tsl are going to be the biggest opponents. Exactly my thoughts, IM looks scary with Nesta and Mvp and I guess they will take it. | ||
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ranjutan
United States636 Posts
On February 05 2011 09:14 annyongmakarax wrote: if oGs wins vs IM its a easy win for ogS unless someone defeeats them "If they win it's an easy win for them, unless they lose" | ||
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Ftrunkz
Australia2474 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
Team depth doesnt really count for too much in an all-kill format. I think every team is going to be really hard pressed to take down Nestea and MVP. | ||
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ashzwz
New Zealand3 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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TheCrow
Norway296 Posts
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amorpheus
Bulgaria2144 Posts
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
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Glueburn
United States496 Posts
but in reality, oGs and IM have the best chance. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
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DarkGeneral
Canada328 Posts
what does GSTL stand for? can someone summarize it real quick please o.o | ||
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AzK
United States20 Posts
I thought about voting for TSL but had to choose IM in the end despite both teams having strong code A players. | ||
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DarkGeneral
Canada328 Posts
thank you | ||
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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Kazzabiss
1006 Posts
On February 08 2011 02:00 Djagulingu wrote: Voted for ZeNEX but i thought team MvP will be in team league and not SlayerS. MvP has a SINGLE player in Code A, SlayerS has two in Code S and multiple in Code A | ||
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bloodmeat
United States160 Posts
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
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