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The Highlander - Ro32/16 Results & Reps - Page 4

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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
July 27 2009 22:19 GMT
#61
HOLY FUCK WHITERA VS MONDI?
O_______O;;
cw)minsean(ru
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 22:23:28
July 27 2009 22:21 GMT
#62
Awesome stuff. This tournament is freaking amazing.

Kind of a bummer that ret dropped out, but good for Horror! From what I've seen he hasn't been doing that exceptional lately, so I hope he does well.

And yeah, there's no doubt in my mind that IdrA is the favorite to win. He's the best foreigner ever, in my opinion - the foreign bonjwa. But with Dinot, White-Ra, Brat, and JF still on the board, I can see him possibly losing. I suppose it's not entirely likely in a BO5, but who knows what sort of cheesy unorthodox play will get thrown at him.

This RO8, and the two remaining RO16 games are going to be absolutely godly. We're gonna have commentated stream/vods for the RO8, right?

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groro
Profile Joined March 2009
67 Posts
July 27 2009 22:25 GMT
#63
About Idra:
Spoiler warining Valor + Show Spoiler +
For me its not anymore like in the beginning when he went to Korea and in this situation where you need to focus hard in your APM, mechanics, executing perfectly the basic builds to catch up with your Korean teammates in the groundings first and in this time you are more vulnerable to something that gets you out of your rhythm.

Nowadays Idras looks like he has all this stuff behind him and got enough of his head free to scout and adapt to almost everything Foreigners can throw at him. He literally crushed Fenix in the Valor tournament 4:0 with massive multitasking and harassing without suffering of his macro. I think in this stage its very unlikely that someone can stop him in the foreign scene except ret


To the question if he should play in foreign tournaments I am somehow divided. On one hand he clearly got better conditions than other foreigners. On the other hand it seems unfair to punish him for the fact that he decided to successfully invest more in his way with Starcraft while others got other perspectives to provide their lifes.

So I dont got a opinion about this because either way there is no optimal solution for me. But what I dont think is too great is when there is only one big prizemoney for the first place. I heard this in ESL.. So correct me if I am wrong. Because others should also have a chance to get a smaller piece of the cake even if Idra is dominating. So something like 1. 700, 2. 200 3. 100 serves the purporse much better imo and still makes the first place much more attractive. Really dont understand why you made it 1020 $ just for the first place.
ZeitgeistMovie
Profile Joined March 2009
144 Posts
July 27 2009 22:56 GMT
#64
Damn, it's a shame to see kolll lose. He could have gone all the way if it weren't for the older maps. Damn imbalanced maps!
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27136 Posts
July 27 2009 23:02 GMT
#65
Hey this is a great tournament with a bigger prize than Valor. Can we talk about that rather than making it an IdrA shitstorm please?

On July 28 2009 07:25 groro wrote:
So I dont got a opinion about this because either way there is no optimal solution for me. But what I dont think is too great is when there is only one big prizemoney for the first place. I heard this in ESL.. So correct me if I am wrong. Because others should also have a chance to get a smaller piece of the cake even if Idra is dominating. So something like 1. 700, 2. 200 3. 100 serves the purporse much better imo and still makes the first place much more attractive. Really dont understand why you made it 1020 $ just for the first place.


Obviously you don't get the reference to HIGHLANDER. There can be only one. That is the theme.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
July 27 2009 23:28 GMT
#66
On July 28 2009 06:41 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 00:54 fanatacist wrote:
On July 28 2009 00:41 jeremycafe wrote:
"He has won like 3/4 foreign tournaments in the past 2 months, or something ridiculous like that. Stop talking out of your ass."

He will not win this tournament. And just because something is "foreign" doesn't make him outclass others. Hes not playing against the pros.

???

There is no way you can say with any certainty that he will not win this tournament. If I remember correctly he won both the ASL and Valor, as well as other things, beating many of the players in this tournament. No, just because something is "foreign" doesn't mean he is on another level altogether, but he is probably the best foreigner right now, and even the best drop games and series to others that are not thought to be as good, both in the pro and foreign scene. Also, he has been playing pros for over a year now, so I don't know what you are talking about. If you meant in this tournament, then yes, he is not playing pros - but like I said, he has already shown that he can beat foreign players by winning both ASL and Valor.

Stop being blinded by your hate or whatever.


You mean he won SCL and Valor, not ASL. Pj 4-2'ed him in the semis of the ASL. He will almost certainly win any foreign tournaments excluding the Chinese. And he's not that dominant, even excluding the Chinese. He doesn't roll over foreigners like the other Koreans. And after watching JF's replays, I think JF will beat him. He seems back in form.


Yep, that's what I meant, thanks for the correction n_n

I completely agree about the Chinese, but as you see in this tournament, it's not an issue.

I think JF vs IdrA would be a great MU, although I would have to say IdrA's TvP is far from being his best whereas JF's PvT is (imo) his strongest.
Peace~
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 00:16:11
July 28 2009 00:05 GMT
#67
Idra got a lot better against toss foreigners ever since he started going engineering bay rush.

EDIT: and let me take this opportunity to say that Idra's TvZ is fucking art. The first game against Dimaga was fantastic, even though he lost.... the second game was just a classic example of a game of his type of style (mass tech)... and the third game was just flawlessly executed.

I think we're beginning to see the beginnings of Idra gaining the confidence to have a style. In TvP I think we saw a little of it in the series vs Fenix, where he switched from standard macro play to a beautiful harass game right out of Fantasy's playbook. In TvZ, his style seems to be mass tech (2 starports, yet lots of early tanks, dropship play) with a relatively (and usually dangerously) small group of MnM that's just big enough to kill mass lings.
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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
July 28 2009 00:36 GMT
#68
dam cant believe ret is out so soon. I think this will be an Idra vs Jf finals or atleast thats what Im hoping for.

As for Idra playing in tournaments... Half u kids crying he shouldn't be playing or the same people who was on the idra sucks bandwagon not to long ago. Now he gets good and u don't want him to compete u guys are funny
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 28 2009 01:11 GMT
#69
Infernal vs Tarson on Heartbreak is such a funny game! :D Watch it!
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SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
July 28 2009 01:12 GMT
#70
UGH I SUCKKKKK. My luck runs very low T.T
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
0cz3c
Profile Joined February 2008
United States564 Posts
July 28 2009 01:16 GMT
#71
Aw man. My favorite player (ret) is out. Great games by JF so far. Nice to see him playing again. =O
SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
July 28 2009 01:17 GMT
#72
On July 28 2009 09:36 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
dam cant believe ret is out so soon. I think this will be an Idra vs Jf finals or atleast thats what Im hoping for.

As for Idra playing in tournaments... Half u kids crying he shouldn't be playing or the same people who was on the idra sucks bandwagon not to long ago. Now he gets good and u don't want him to compete u guys are funny


As x17ish as that sounds, its kinda true lol. He used to be the easy joke for the communities, but now that he's showing what he's learned, people don't want him here . Funny how things work ^.^..... As for who i'm cheering for now.... gotta go with xiaozi and jf ^.^!!!

RED AND WHITE LIGHTNING!
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
iMate
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada263 Posts
July 28 2009 03:28 GMT
#73
when is ret playing castro?
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
July 28 2009 04:05 GMT
#74
white-ra
iefnaij

fighting!! im looking forward to white-ra vs mondi~
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
groro
Profile Joined March 2009
67 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 05:11:00
July 28 2009 04:53 GMT
#75
On July 28 2009 08:02 Manifesto7 wrote:
Hey this is a great tournament with a bigger prize than Valor. Can we talk about that rather than making it an IdrA shitstorm please?

Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 07:25 groro wrote:
So I dont got a opinion about this because either way there is no optimal solution for me. But what I dont think is too great is when there is only one big prizemoney for the first place. I heard this in ESL.. So correct me if I am wrong. Because others should also have a chance to get a smaller piece of the cake even if Idra is dominating. So something like 1. 700, 2. 200 3. 100 serves the purporse much better imo and still makes the first place much more attractive. Really dont understand why you made it 1020 $ just for the first place.


Obviously you don't get the reference to HIGHLANDER. There can be only one. That is the theme.


Ah ok my bad. Yeah, I forgot about this TV series and its motto.

Edit: Wanted to thanks everybody involved for setting this up. I mean as a follower of such tournaments you most likely talk about some things where you got twisted thoughts or some deeply discussion is possible. But its not like you dont appreciate the work or something.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 28 2009 05:40 GMT
#76
Idra vs Castro has been played. If you want the result you can check the BinaryBeast Bracket in the op. The rep pack link has been updated to include the reps, or you can just download the reps from here http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Plexa/The_Highlander/Idra_vs_Castro.rar
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 06:15:07
July 28 2009 06:12 GMT
#77
On July 28 2009 08:28 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 06:41 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
On July 28 2009 00:54 fanatacist wrote:
On July 28 2009 00:41 jeremycafe wrote:
"He has won like 3/4 foreign tournaments in the past 2 months, or something ridiculous like that. Stop talking out of your ass."

He will not win this tournament. And just because something is "foreign" doesn't make him outclass others. Hes not playing against the pros.

???

There is no way you can say with any certainty that he will not win this tournament. If I remember correctly he won both the ASL and Valor, as well as other things, beating many of the players in this tournament. No, just because something is "foreign" doesn't mean he is on another level altogether, but he is probably the best foreigner right now, and even the best drop games and series to others that are not thought to be as good, both in the pro and foreign scene. Also, he has been playing pros for over a year now, so I don't know what you are talking about. If you meant in this tournament, then yes, he is not playing pros - but like I said, he has already shown that he can beat foreign players by winning both ASL and Valor.

Stop being blinded by your hate or whatever.


You mean he won SCL and Valor, not ASL. Pj 4-2'ed him in the semis of the ASL. He will almost certainly win any foreign tournaments excluding the Chinese. And he's not that dominant, even excluding the Chinese. He doesn't roll over foreigners like the other Koreans. And after watching JF's replays, I think JF will beat him. He seems back in form.


Yep, that's what I meant, thanks for the correction n_n

I completely agree about the Chinese, but as you see in this tournament, it's not an issue.

I think JF vs IdrA would be a great MU, although I would have to say IdrA's TvP is far from being his best whereas JF's PvT is (imo) his strongest.


JF disagrees:
+ Show Spoiler +
Your next opponent will be RoX.BRAT_OK.
His play is quite impressive, however I am feeling anything but confident. I've been practicing PvP and PvZ's all seasons, not even touching PvT.


Although, JF's PvT is still really sick and has really smart decision making and good macro, he will give Idra some trouble, but not going be too much trouble, judging by how bad Idra rolled Ra/Fenix. How is being your 2nd best mu far from being his best :/?

Also I dont expect JF to get through Bratok let alone Idra, those 2 were always closely matched, and both their bo5s/bo7s couldve gone different ways if not for map positions. But Bratok is more active right now which is all he needs.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 28 2009 06:30 GMT
#78
On July 28 2009 14:40 Plexa wrote:
Idra vs Castro has been played. If you want the result you can check the BinaryBeast Bracket in the op. The rep pack link has been updated to include the reps, or you can just download the reps from here http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Plexa/The_Highlander/Idra_vs_Castro.rar


+ Show Spoiler +
Two very good games and then... wtf?!?! Such a damn pity ... as it stands I'm just bitter about the series that could have been. Ack...
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
iMate
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada263 Posts
July 28 2009 06:35 GMT
#79
i like idras 3rd game wins =p
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 28 2009 07:33 GMT
#80
woah some sick upsets in this torunament... nice to see two germans still in it. mondi vs white-ra will be sick!

gj horror!

looking forward to watch some reps tonight


btw great tournament! awesome to see so many top players battle it out.
keep it up, you guys organizing it really kick some major ass!
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