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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
July 27 2009 06:01 GMT
#121
On July 27 2009 12:13 redtooth wrote:
i stayed up til 4 watching samsung pull one of the most anticlutch performances in the history of sports(?).

it was upsetting...

must be tough as a fan when in the back of your mind you are terrified that your player is going to randomly choke

happened in the FBH vs Iris game, and happened in the super ace
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moriya
Profile Joined March 2009
United States54 Posts
July 27 2009 06:16 GMT
#122
In that sense samsung should be eliminated by stx. Stx has the better overall performance but not a superstar. This kind of argument makes no sense at all.

Korean rules.
On July 26 2009 20:14 Plexa wrote:
Can't say I'm a fan of this new system =/ Khan performed better over the course of the two nights (7-6) and yet their dream proleague run was stopped because of a single game. It all kinda seems... unjust. One bo7 was better imo. This format definitely benefits the teams who have a single strong player and hurts the team with depth, but no stars.

Harpoon
Profile Joined December 2008
Philippines93 Posts
July 27 2009 06:16 GMT
#123
if KHAN had sent Jangbi instead of Stork, I wonder what would've happened. . . anyway, great performance from Effort. That was a great series.
War is not about who is right, it is about who is left.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 08:15:13
July 27 2009 08:12 GMT
#124
Well from here on out I doubt anyone can go 3-0 in a single night. The ace players in the 3 remaining teams are too good to allow that to happen.

Congratulations to CJ and I hope you are good enough to receive a T1 beating in the finals. Khan should be kicking themselves in the ass right now after losing a TvT they were ahead in, a ZvP on andromeda, and a 9 pool vs 12hatch. Not taking away from the very strong play by the CJ players but they were just so close man.
Also, this super ace system creates starleague final level tension. Hopefully the next 2 rounds will result in super aces because I love them.

On July 27 2009 15:16 moriya wrote:
In that sense samsung should be eliminated by stx. Stx has the better overall performance but not a superstar. This kind of argument makes no sense at all.


He said he preferred the old bo7 system which Khan still won in. Khan showed they could go toe-to-toe with the deepest line around.
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
July 27 2009 09:52 GMT
#125
is it just me or was this article a little biased (or is it supposed to be?). Stork is not simply 'good', he's a protoss legend, he beat SkyHigh by playing excellently, wasnt just a matter of Skyhigh 'dropping' it, stork's PvZ does not 'suck' it is just not s-class (it is 6/7% above the PvZ average of 47%ish)...... i know im a bit of a fanboy but still...

Anyway I admire CJ & Effort especially, they were terrific and deserved their win, but at least give Khan some credit & respect for the way they played, which was excellent too (FBH excepted ). But maybe you did and i missed it...
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
July 27 2009 15:41 GMT
#126
I think you missed the part where it was said that the write-ups were made by "CJ Entusmen", and in the comments I said that it was great that these things were written by FANS OF THE WINNING TEAM. Pay more attention, young one.
Peace~
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
July 27 2009 17:38 GMT
#127
10/10 writeup!
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 27 2009 20:02 GMT
#128
On July 27 2009 09:24 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 08:46 leetchaos wrote:
On July 26 2009 20:14 Plexa wrote:
*snip*
This format definitely benefits the teams who have a single strong player and hurts the team with depth, but no stars.


This.

regular bo7 benefits a team with a single strong player equally as much imo

Not really. This format is: the teams play two Bo7 series, if they tie, the tiebreaker is a SINGLE game (rather than a third Bo7 series).

If your team has one titanic ace player who can consistently win his games, in a Bo7 what he can do is make sure he wins his own game, and if two others win theirs and the series goes to an Ace match, he can close that with a win. In other words: He _needs_ his team to win 2 out of the 5 games that the super ace player isn't playing.

In the playoffs format, it's the same thing, only your team gets a mulligan. Did all your non-star players lose their games? That's fine- you get a second Bo7 series, where the rest of your team gets another shot at winning 2 out of their 5 games. If they manage to win those 2 games in either Bo7 set, then your super ace wins his game, takes that Bo7 to an ace match, wins that, takes the whole series to a super ace, and wins that too. The supporting cast only needs to win 2 games out of 10 (in the same Bo7 set) for the super ace to carry the team to victory.
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Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
July 28 2009 01:58 GMT
#129
Format doesnt really matter CJ won fair and square. If anything i blame firebathero for not beating iris. He's really making me less of a fan....
Firebathero is still the best!
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
July 28 2009 03:44 GMT
#130
On July 28 2009 05:02 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 09:24 Hot_Bid wrote:
On July 27 2009 08:46 leetchaos wrote:
On July 26 2009 20:14 Plexa wrote:
*snip*
This format definitely benefits the teams who have a single strong player and hurts the team with depth, but no stars.


This.

regular bo7 benefits a team with a single strong player equally as much imo

Not really. This format is: the teams play two Bo7 series, if they tie, the tiebreaker is a SINGLE game (rather than a third Bo7 series).

If your team has one titanic ace player who can consistently win his games, in a Bo7 what he can do is make sure he wins his own game, and if two others win theirs and the series goes to an Ace match, he can close that with a win. In other words: He _needs_ his team to win 2 out of the 5 games that the super ace player isn't playing.

In the playoffs format, it's the same thing, only your team gets a mulligan. Did all your non-star players lose their games? That's fine- you get a second Bo7 series, where the rest of your team gets another shot at winning 2 out of their 5 games. If they manage to win those 2 games in either Bo7 set, then your super ace wins his game, takes that Bo7 to an ace match, wins that, takes the whole series to a super ace, and wins that too. The supporting cast only needs to win 2 games out of 10 (in the same Bo7 set) for the super ace to carry the team to victory.

while this is true if we have infinite practice time, the lesser players often have to practice for double the number of games, often in different matchups. having two bo7s exposes teams without depth even more, because it forces them to go deeper into their bench. its rare for a team to only play six players, even hwaseung fielded 6+.
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peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
July 28 2009 04:26 GMT
#131
Lol he's trying to hide his smile!

Looks like that patented CJ face is wearing off
the throws never bothered me anyway
DskXplorr
Profile Joined March 2009
United States44 Posts
July 28 2009 14:17 GMT
#132
Oh my god, now i feel worse that i didn't get to see it, but still can't wait for Oz v CJ. This is gonna be interesting.
When one person dies, another is born, but when a marine dies, we thank the zerg.
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
July 28 2009 17:36 GMT
#133
Wowowowowow, that was an amazing write up. Can't wait for CJ vs OZ. CJ should win with their team "depth" and hopefully it will go down to a super ace match with skyhigh vs JD and JD being able to get revenge on skyhigh after that WL match that he lost in the finals or effort vs JD.

Either way, we are all probably hoping for a super ace match with bisu vs JD or bisu vs Effort.
^______________^
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
July 28 2009 20:35 GMT
#134
This is such great article... keep up the good work!
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