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On December 30 2008 07:56 decembrie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2008 07:51 AttackZerg wrote:On December 30 2008 07:48 decembrie wrote:
This wasn't really cheese !!!!! It seems like it, but it wasn't !
It was very calculated and on this particular map m&m are bound to beat 1 fact and 1 port...
THIS WAS NOT CHEESE By all standard definations of cheese this was a cheese. He cut all economic capablity for 1 do or die attack. If oov went 2 fact vulture it was an auto-loss. It wasn't cheese as in bbs or proxy, it was a unit specific surprises timming attack. How often do you see terran build 10 scv tvt and then stop for the entire game? You're forgetting the map this was played on; indeed boxer lost his scvs, but he could have avoided that with just 3 marines... Done on most other maps this would be cheese, but on Requiem... a map where the initial push is 70% of the game; its not. This is not the only time Boxer has used m&m in tvt. In a recent game, he used m&m to contain a terran on a 2 player map and ended up winning in mid to late-game.
I'm sorry but you are very wrong. Just because boxer has used all varieties of cheese builds more then once doesn't make them not cheese. I didn't mean he lost his scv to a wraith. He only made 8-9 all game anyway.
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Well, rA never lost a PvZ on either Guillotine or Neo, pioneering the whole 'double nexus' deal. Then again, he was 14-1 combined overall on the maps anyhow and that was at his peak of dominance.
The only thing I can really compare that to is Jaedong's 16-2 Katrina record, which was supposed to be terrible for Zerg.
Anyhow, tangent completed... haha
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drop gets raped by manlots and manrobes
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I had moderate success with PvZ despite my PvZ being my worst matchup by far (barring understanding, results, and confidence - basically everything). I really don't know what I cooked up but sometimes it worked 
The only help is that Zergs didn't know overpool, so they either 12hatched into the choke or 9-pooled. You can't really 12-hatch to the expo, maybe that's what helps P a bit.
So weird watching that they didn't know how to carpet bomb drops, etc
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wow look at that hydra line
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And indeed Guillotine was Nal_rA's map 
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If people looked at this game I can see why it took a while for the protoss FE build to get popular.
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Hydras behind mineral line, that's a nice move
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Haha, he doesn't even attempts to micro his hydra away from the storm.
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That critter cost Reach the game... T_T
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On December 30 2008 08:07 QibingZero wrote:
Well, rA never lost a PvZ on either Guillotine or Neo,
Anyhow, tangent completed... haha
Yes he was the strongest P by far PvZ at the time.
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I love 1979. Such a great song.
I love how you guys play it at every event
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By the way, what's the reason for not-using-lcd monitors?
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what other xmas events are gonna happen after this?
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On December 30 2008 08:12 RA wrote:
By the way, what's the reason for not-using-lcd monitors?
Higher refresh rates.
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OMG Yellow. Please show a game that Yellow wins <3
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EPT
