Old VOD Night with Plexa and Haji is over! Click here for the VOD!
The much anticipated Old VOD Night is just a few hours away from starting, and boy do we have a show for you! We've collected a variety of classic old games which have mostly been forgotten about or have flown completely under the radar. It is also a time for a lot of the newer members on the site to get a history lesson and experience what Brood War use to be like. Rest assured, you will be entertained! All these games are incredibly action packed and you should enjoy them immensely.
Unfortunately, seeing as these are prerecorded VODs the stream quality will probably be lower than what we usually do on TL because we can't improve the quality of the source material . Nevertheless, the clarity is enough so that you should be able to make out all the of the important details. Myself and thedeadhaji will be hosting the event and giving you the context from which these games came from and enlightening you with our nostalgious thoughts about years gone by.
What games are going to be shown?
Game 1: ArtOfTerran vs July on Requiem Game 2: Cloud vs Chojja on Incubus 2004 Game 3: Rainbow vs Midas on Tucson Game 4: Goodfriend vs Shark on Sin Pioneer Period Game 5: XellOs vs YellOw on Guillotene Game 6: Boxer vs Iloveoov on Requiem Game 7: Reach vs Sigamari on Guillotene Game 8: YellOw vs NaDa on Rush Hour
If you were listening to the Xmas Liquibition cast you would know what two of the VODs are being shown today so feel free to say them in this thread. There are 8 games in total and we have roughly 2 hours of VOD play time, so expect this cast to be about 2 hours and 30mins long so budget accordingly!
We hope you enjoy the first TeamLiquid Old VOD Night!
Will there be a youtube or torrent available afterwards? This was the thing I was looking forward to the most but I will probably won't be able to make it .
I suppose this could sound stupid, but it's first time I want to watch the live stream here on tl.com and I have no idea where exactly to find the link after timer runs out - is it going to be in some special part/here in the news thread or on the green bar instead of timer? Clarification would be nice
From somebody who has probably been around for a handful of these games:
I thank you greatly for a chance to go back and relive Starcraft from a time where no matter how few units were out on the map, it was still going to be an exciting game.
One of the best event so far! I'll be here waiting, thank you so much for this! I am sure to know what i say when i say that TL is undoubtedly one of the best, if not even, the best gaming community out there in the web.
Guys, none can match your professionalism, passion and style!
PS: Please use the greasemonkey stuff ... it always give great quality!
At least I can watch this on a library computer with those bulky library headphones!
:D
I'm gonna have to endure weird looks from old people without their own computers though. :/
Can we make guesses about the VODs being played tonight? I wasn't there for yesterday's event, because I didn't know we could rent library headphones and I'm sure no one in the computer lab wants to hear a Starcraft game being commented on XD
On December 30 2008 03:27 Plexa wrote: there are also a number of users from europe and to have it any later hurts them. Don't worry, the whole cast will be available later =]
WOOOOT well i guess i could try to stream from work with internet that seems to be 56k...
Keep in mind that these are supposed to be games that have flown under the radar. Boxer v Joyo @ Paradoxxx is way too famous to qualify for "under the radar" status.
I hope that the games will live up to the "under the radar" premise and show most of us things we haven't seen before
you can watch those everyday on youtube id like to see old games like garimto vs jinnam or some games from players like intotherain, autumn, lee and so on... or the boxer vs yellow game on gaema gowun where yellow already had the game but played with boxer and he ended up losing it.
todays matches are all about macro. the old games had so much more stategies and micro in it
Having good graphics every day makes tl.net : ) : ) props to the graphics team! I have a strong suspicion that the entire pgtour signature guys all working diligently for teamliquid : )
I'd like to watch it so much. But I already hit the bandwidth cap - I am spending Xmas in my home town with my parents. Now I regret my old decision: "1GB a month will be enough for you, Dad. You will never download that much, since you don't even know how. This way, you can save some money. And when we come to visit you on weekends - there is no cap on weekends.
sad, no english commentary. i have no idea what you find so cool about hearing korean and understanding 1% of the words .. still going to watch, hopefully some epic games.
On December 30 2008 06:11 exDreamDuck wrote: sad, no english commentary. i have no idea what you find so cool about hearing korean and understanding 1% of the words .. still going to watch, hopefully some epic games.
if we had clean source we would have 100% done commentary we tested it before hand and tried to commentate over the game and it failed pretty hard =[
On December 30 2008 06:11 exDreamDuck wrote: sad, no english commentary. i have no idea what you find so cool about hearing korean and understanding 1% of the words .. still going to watch, hopefully some epic games.
They stated earlier that there would be no english commentary. Do not be a dick.
On December 30 2008 06:25 OmgIRok wrote: wait, i thought there was gonna be english commentary? (idk how or why i thought that, but can some one clarify)
Not sure when they said that would happen. But they can't get rid of the Korean commentary, and commentating over that would just be mindfuck.
Incubus is such a shitty map ZvT. You need to 3 hat to be able to sunken line both of your bases, since the nat is off to the side and isn't in the way of the main.
On December 30 2008 06:40 Empyrean wrote: Chojja looked about ready to cry
Also I don't remember him being that fat. :O
Incubus is such a shitty map ZvT. You need to 3 hat to be able to sunken line both of your bases, since the nat is off to the side and isn't in the way of the main.
Yeah I noticed the Zerg had two chokes to defend. That blows. Three hatch was unheard of back then right? Or at least not used nearly as much as it is now?
Stupid question - but to make it more interesting for newcomers - any insight on Rainbow? I haven't heard much about him since I've been watching VODs and following GOM live broadcasts about 2 months ago.
On December 30 2008 06:47 RA wrote: Stupid question - but to make it more interesting for newcomers - any insight on Rainbow? I haven't heard much about him since I've been watching VODs and following GOM live broadcasts about 2 months ago.
these are some really cool matches. thanks a lot for all the work that went into this collecting, preparing, making the graphics, etc.
just one thing; is there any way you can stop the vod a little later? so we can see the minutes after the game ended and all the emotion of the players, teammates and crowd.
Right, I remember quitting around the time neutral buildings started getting popular. I thought they were an annoying gimmick. I know the map was used, just I don't remember any games on it because I haven't actually seen any on the map :/
On December 30 2008 06:56 ScarFace wrote: dude, what is GO? isnt that CJ's past name? Midas was on CJ?!?! :o
Yes, as was Gorush, Nal_ra etc
Wow, what happened to CJ? How did they get bought out so madly? :S
they used to be a really really poor team so the coach felt bad for the players, because he felt that he couldn't provide for them well enough. he gave his players the option of transferring to different teams. this is why xellos is so highly respected, because he basically kept GO running by himself, giving the team almost all his earnings.
later when they actually got a good sponsor, the coach rewarded xellos by giving his a really nice contract.
and this is also why it was such a huge deal when xellos voluntarily demoted himself to the B-team.
On December 30 2008 07:04 ScarFace wrote: why dont we have this kind of screaming anymore? Or do the mics just block out most of the cheers?
Haha, well. The crowd was a bit closer to the mics and players than they are nowadays. Also, the commentators' mics are of better quality and don't muffle sound as much. Finally, the VOD quality we're used to is a little better.
On December 30 2008 07:08 Empyrean wrote: I still don't understand how it worked...
It was designed to have the maximum number of low-tech units as quickly as possible, so he could hit the timing window before academy tech and units kicked in.
On December 30 2008 07:08 Empyrean wrote: I still don't understand how it worked...
It was designed to have the maximum number of low-tech units as quickly as possible, so he could hit the timing window before academy tech and units kicked in.
Yeah....it was weird. I kept on thinking that the Marines could hold off the Zerglings and three Hydra, but I guess I was wrong.
I guess Midas underestimated it and didn't bring SCVs immediately or micro his Marines to the best of his ability.
Does anyone else think it'd be awesome if TL had more stuff like this on air? Just OSL and MSL VODs, you don't even need english commentary on all of them. If you could even stream live OSL and MSL that'd be awesome... I can never get Korean streams to work
I like that there are so many good TvZ games. And seeing players like YellOw vs XellOs now, cool and exciting
Especially interesting for me since I remember YellOw as a badass before I started to watch SC seriously. And don't know much about XellOs except he is another badass as well.
On December 30 2008 07:08 Empyrean wrote: I still don't understand how it worked...
It was designed to have the maximum number of low-tech units as quickly as possible, so he could hit the timing window before academy tech and units kicked in.
Also, the hydras take the first marine shots, in order to buy the zerglings more time to do their crazy damage. You can see GF try to micro around that after the initial rush of fire, but it's too late.
On December 30 2008 07:08 Empyrean wrote: I still don't understand how it worked...
It was designed to have the maximum number of low-tech units as quickly as possible, so he could hit the timing window before academy tech and units kicked in.
Yeah....it was weird. I kept on thinking that the Marines could hold off the Zerglings and three Hydra, but I guess I was wrong.
I guess Midas underestimated it and didn't bring SCVs immediately or micro his Marines to the best of his ability.
On December 30 2008 07:08 Empyrean wrote: I still don't understand how it worked...
It was designed to have the maximum number of low-tech units as quickly as possible, so he could hit the timing window before academy tech and units kicked in.
Yeah....it was weird. I kept on thinking that the Marines could hold off the Zerglings and three Hydra, but I guess I was wrong.
I guess Midas underestimated it and didn't bring SCVs immediately or micro his Marines to the best of his ability.
On December 30 2008 07:21 Empyrean wrote: Haha, besides ArtOfTerran, there haven't been any REALLY old school games yet. Just games from the mid-period of progaming haha
what? artofterran's game was like the same period as all the others
On December 30 2008 07:21 Empyrean wrote: Haha, besides ArtOfTerran, there haven't been any REALLY old school games yet. Just games from the mid-period of progaming haha
what? artofterran's game was like the same period as all the others
He was more known from an earlier time period, though.
Honestly, the first time I saw the game, I didn't know why Yellow didn't GG after Xellos broke into his main. Those two expos he had at the end seemed really desperate, and when I saw the top right again, I was just like "oh wtf where did those drones and buildings come from?" Haha
Thanks for bringing this one back, I completely forgot how epic of a game that was
Yeah that was vintage Yellow ZvT. When he's not throwing away units and a potential victory, he's clawing his way out of a definite loss. Painful and great at the same time.
On December 30 2008 07:43 RA wrote: If the result is 2:1 at this point, with the result mentioned before it should be "white" win, which should be Iloveoov
On December 30 2008 07:43 RA wrote: If the result is 2:1 at this point, with the result mentioned before it should be "white" win, which should be Iloveoov
EDIT: looks like Boxer is white?
Boxer was white @ 12 in this match, Oov was 2:1 up, and later won 3:2
On December 30 2008 07:46 Jyvblamo wrote: Hmm, supposing that Boxer has no money left for an SCV, might Oov have forced a draw by floating his buildings to one of the corners?
The Wraith can't face 6ish Marines, which Boxer had at the end. He could use these Marines to protect a floating Barracks, then use it to force Marines into the corners Monty Hall style.
So either way you slice it, Oov couldn't have forced a draw.
For those who weren't around back then EVERY game was dramatic. I don't care what plexa says about alot of the games then being junk. I think back alot of ZvT's revolved around 1 small battle of lurker vs mnm. I used to hold my breath so often.
On December 30 2008 07:48 decembrie wrote: This wasn't really cheese !!!!! It seems like it, but it wasn't !
It was very calculated and on this particular map m&m are bound to beat 1 fact and 1 port...
THIS WAS NOT CHEESE
By all standard definations of cheese this was a cheese.
He cut all economic capablity for 1 do or die attack. If oov went 2 fact vulture it was an auto-loss.
It wasn't cheese as in bbs or proxy, it was a unit specific surprises timming attack. How often do you see terran build 10 scv tvt and then stop for the entire game?
On December 30 2008 07:48 decembrie wrote: This wasn't really cheese !!!!! It seems like it, but it wasn't !
It was very calculated and on this particular map m&m are bound to beat 1 fact and 1 port...
THIS WAS NOT CHEESE
By all standard definations of cheese this was a cheese.
He cut all economic capablity for 1 do or die attack. If oov went 2 fact vulture it was an auto-loss.
It wasn't cheese as in bbs or proxy, it was a unit specific surprises timming attack. How often do you see terran build 10 scv tvt and then stop for the entire game?
You're forgetting the map this was played on; indeed boxer lost his scvs, but he could have avoided that with just 3 marines...
Done on most other maps this would be cheese, but on Requiem... a map where the initial push is 70% of the game; its not.
This is not the only time Boxer has used m&m in tvt.
In a recent game, he used m&m to contain a terran on a 2 player map and ended up winning in mid to late-game.
Oh I watched this live back then, damn did this map suck to play on vs Zerg. Imagine it, you have to FE and defend 3 spots from a random choice of attack by the Zerg player (and FE followups were not as polished as they are now). It's even worse than Azalea.
On December 30 2008 08:01 Naib wrote: Oh I watched this live back then, damn did this map suck to play on vs Zerg. Imagine it, you have to FE and defend 3 spots from a random choice of attack by the Zerg player (and FE followups were not as polished as they are now). It's even worse than Azalea.
I wasn't around back then, but statistically, Guillotine is balanced PvZ(13-13). Was it really that bad?
On December 30 2008 08:01 Naib wrote: Oh I watched this live back then, damn did this map suck to play on vs Zerg. Imagine it, you have to FE and defend 3 spots from a random choice of attack by the Zerg player (and FE followups were not as polished as they are now). It's even worse than Azalea.
Ya definately , I remember ZvP being super easy on this map.
Do you remember when nal_ra made forge openings on this map standard? I can't remember which station it was but one of them had chojja test his 8pool-speed build vs nal_ra's cannons to see if it gets there in time. Ah the good old days .
On December 30 2008 08:01 Naib wrote: Oh I watched this live back then, damn did this map suck to play on vs Zerg. Imagine it, you have to FE and defend 3 spots from a random choice of attack by the Zerg player (and FE followups were not as polished as they are now). It's even worse than Azalea.
haha
I dont think this map was that bad at the time.
Hall of Valhalla on the other hand, now that map was just rediculous.
On December 30 2008 08:01 Naib wrote: Oh I watched this live back then, damn did this map suck to play on vs Zerg. Imagine it, you have to FE and defend 3 spots from a random choice of attack by the Zerg player (and FE followups were not as polished as they are now). It's even worse than Azalea.
haha
I dont think this map was that bad at the time.
Hall of Valhalla on the other hand, now that map was just rediculous.
Did you know a few zergs had winning records at the pro level on the map?
I thought it was crazy but yellow had winning records against Reach and nal_ra. Chojja also beat reach.
I don't have my old wcg korea reps, but there were 3 zergs who would win ZvP and ZvT on that map more often then not. In all reality they were the few 'S' class zergs of the day.
On December 30 2008 07:48 decembrie wrote: This wasn't really cheese !!!!! It seems like it, but it wasn't !
It was very calculated and on this particular map m&m are bound to beat 1 fact and 1 port...
THIS WAS NOT CHEESE
By all standard definations of cheese this was a cheese.
He cut all economic capablity for 1 do or die attack. If oov went 2 fact vulture it was an auto-loss.
It wasn't cheese as in bbs or proxy, it was a unit specific surprises timming attack. How often do you see terran build 10 scv tvt and then stop for the entire game?
You're forgetting the map this was played on; indeed boxer lost his scvs, but he could have avoided that with just 3 marines...
Done on most other maps this would be cheese, but on Requiem... a map where the initial push is 70% of the game; its not.
This is not the only time Boxer has used m&m in tvt.
In a recent game, he used m&m to contain a terran on a 2 player map and ended up winning in mid to late-game.
I'm sorry but you are very wrong. Just because boxer has used all varieties of cheese builds more then once doesn't make them not cheese. I didn't mean he lost his scv to a wraith. He only made 8-9 all game anyway.
Well, rA never lost a PvZ on either Guillotine or Neo, pioneering the whole 'double nexus' deal. Then again, he was 14-1 combined overall on the maps anyhow and that was at his peak of dominance.
The only thing I can really compare that to is Jaedong's 16-2 Katrina record, which was supposed to be terrible for Zerg.
I had moderate success with PvZ despite my PvZ being my worst matchup by far (barring understanding, results, and confidence - basically everything). I really don't know what I cooked up but sometimes it worked
The only help is that Zergs didn't know overpool, so they either 12hatched into the choke or 9-pooled. You can't really 12-hatch to the expo, maybe that's what helps P a bit.
So weird watching that they didn't know how to carpet bomb drops, etc
On December 30 2008 08:12 RA wrote: By the way, what's the reason for not-using-lcd monitors?
Minor difference in response time (CRT is faster than LCD) - LCD seems to catch up lately, but even I can feel the difference (my new comp came with an LCD monitor, I can carry it around easier anyway), and I'm pretty far from a progamer ^^ - must be huge for them, even if they would have the newest LCD stuff.
On December 30 2008 08:12 RA wrote: By the way, what's the reason for not-using-lcd monitors?
They don't work for progaming...
theyre fine nowadays
they just had shitty refresh rates back then
They're still using CRT everywhere in korean progaming though.
That's the reason I asked. This was the only video I saw where it was LCD.
Its a mixture of refresh rates, brightness, contrast, response time + i'm sure you've noticed that LCD/TFT monitors don't work from certain angles, this is becoming less of a problem now though.
On December 30 2008 08:12 RA wrote: By the way, what's the reason for not-using-lcd monitors?
They don't work for progaming...
theyre fine nowadays
they just had shitty refresh rates back then
They're still using CRT everywhere in korean progaming though.
That's the reason I asked. This was the only video I saw where it was LCD.
Its a mixture of refresh rates, brightness, contrast, response time + i'm sure you've noticed that LCD/TFT monitors don't work from certain angles, this is becoming less of a problem now though.
I agree on all of that, but actually response time is faster nowadays and usually it's a problem for FPSes, at least for all I know. And the blurring of the screen from some angles is only a problem for someone else watching from that angle, IMHO.
On December 30 2008 08:12 RA wrote: By the way, what's the reason for not-using-lcd monitors?
They don't work for progaming...
theyre fine nowadays
they just had shitty refresh rates back then
They're still using CRT everywhere in korean progaming though.
That's the reason I asked. This was the only video I saw where it was LCD.
Its a mixture of refresh rates, brightness, contrast, response time + i'm sure you've noticed that LCD/TFT monitors don't work from certain angles, this is becoming less of a problem now though.
I agree on all of that, but actually response time is faster nowadays and usually it's a problem for FPSes, at least for all I know. And the blurring of the screen from some angles is only a problem for someone else watching from that angle, IMHO.
No, not only when someone else is watching from a big angle, sometimes you can see that in the corners aswell. Anyway there are pro's and con's to owning either a CRT or a TFT/LCD.
Ohhhh my fucking god. What a great selection of games, especially the last one. Really nice show, nice casting and introduction to the games. Great job @ plexa&haji. Cant stretch that enough.
first two games were kinda boring, rest of the games were pretty cool, nice selection of games overall! but i still would like some comments in the game, watching korean vods in such a bad quality is not perfect, some speech would make it more enjoyable.
great, great, really GREAT games, especially the last one (i nearly got a heart-attack, god was that EPIC). Plz do more Vod Nights in the future, plz, my english is not good enoug to express how awesome this was
Great games! Thanks guys!!! I was also hoping you would play that Rainbow vs Cloud - Mind Control into Tanks game... Do you still have it Haji? I saw you posted it like 2 and a half years ago...
On December 30 2008 08:43 exDreamDuck wrote: first two games were kinda boring, rest of the games were pretty cool, nice selection of games overall! but i still would like some comments in the game, watching korean vods in such a bad quality is not perfect, some speech would make it more enjoyable.
Ye maybe but the screaming of the fans is just epic too :D
Thanks for this TL staff, loving the christmas events so far! There were a couple I'd seen, but having only gotten into starcraft progaming in mid-2007 I'm really happy to see so many of the great games I've missed.
Btw, is there really a list of "must watch" old games around? I'll have to search around for one I guess. But I'd love it if a few staff & old timers got together and made a huge list of incredibly awesome old games. I think I'd watch all of them. ^^
You guys did an excellent job. I feel old too -- I remembered some of these Can't believe I hadn't seen that last one, though. What a fucking GEM you guys dug up!
Wow. Last game was unbeliveable. I really miss those games where people never give up as long as they still got one attacking unit alive. Ninja-SCVs by NaDa! And Yellows dropmining? O.o Rofl, that game had it all.
On December 30 2008 08:55 dongfeng wrote: can anyone tell me wat happened the last game my stream died
Get the VOD, watching will be better!!!
ya im searching for it now a link would be appreciated i just need to know what happened it was a cliffhanger when my stream died 1 rine 1 vesel 1 medic vs 4 lurk defiler
YellOw is distance mining by using the overlord to pick the drone after it harvests. NaDa has 1 marine, 1 medic and a vessel with no irradiate.
But! NaDa has been mining with 2 scvs like at 3 o clock or so, he makes a wraith and kills yellows drone mining the main if i remember correctly, or returning from mining the natural.
The other drone is mining the natural but NaDa places his marine just on the ledge, stims and kills it before YellOw notices to pull it back.
Overall NaDa goes from 1 marine and 1 vessel vs 1 defiler and 4 lurks to shutting yellow in like 10 seconds
Getting the VOD now, it will download while I sleep. I deffinately know what I will be doing first thing in the morning! Thanks already, I am positive I will enjoy this immensely.
On December 30 2008 10:51 Jonoman92 wrote: Could someone recommend the top 2 or 3 VODs from this list for me to watch?
Boxer vs oov is a must watch, same with nada vs yellow and xellos vs yellow.
Then again you don't want to miss the rainbow game, some of the best reaver micro you will ever see. And the reach game is just plain hilarious. You really don't want to miss any of these.
Would have been nice to see the celebrations after the proleague matches. I remember Shark going mental after that game vs GoodFriend, high fiving the MBC team so hard some of them almost lost balance.
On December 31 2008 09:32 Guybrush wrote: Would have been nice to see the celebrations after the proleague matches. I remember Shark going mental after that game vs GoodFriend, high fiving the MBC team so hard some of them almost lost balance.
I agree, celebrations would have been cool - if they were in the original VOD
In the broadcast, plexa said that game 8 took place during the snickers all star, but a look in the TLPD shows that there is another rush hour game they played. Did they play each other twice on rush hour? I'm sorta confused.
YellOw is distance mining by using the overlord to pick the drone after it harvests. NaDa has 1 marine, 1 medic and a vessel with no irradiate.
But! NaDa has been mining with 2 scvs like at 3 o clock or so, he makes a wraith and kills yellows drone mining the main if i remember correctly, or returning from mining the natural.
The other drone is mining the natural but NaDa places his marine just on the ledge, stims and kills it before YellOw notices to pull it back.
Overall NaDa goes from 1 marine and 1 vessel vs 1 defiler and 4 lurks to shutting yellow in like 10 seconds
Actually he killed the drone with his one marine from highground before his wraith could arrive on scene
On December 31 2008 12:41 kiero wrote: In the broadcast, plexa said that game 8 took place during the snickers all star, but a look in the TLPD shows that there is another rush hour game they played. Did they play each other twice on rush hour? I'm sorta confused.
Ya. Snickers took ages to complete and it had multiple rounds iirc. The games listed in TLPD are the finals whereas the game shown was from group play. I've been too lazy to find all the results for snickers and put them into TLPD t_T
On December 31 2008 09:32 Guybrush wrote: Would have been nice to see the celebrations after the proleague matches. I remember Shark going mental after that game vs GoodFriend, high fiving the MBC team so hard some of them almost lost balance.
ya i agree, unfortunately my source material cut off too fast =[
Some really awesome games in this pack. I remember all but the one with Chojja vs Cloud.
As for the epicness of Nada vs Yellow as opposed to Savior vs TT or Savior vs Free. The savior vs free game doesn't even come in the same league, it wasn't exiting in any way. Savior had lost the game even before the base trading and he didn't get back into it at any point, just ran around with a few units.
The Savior vs TT game was more special for me than Nada vs Yellow though because until the very end you absolutely thought Savior would lose. I remember thinking yeah that was a nice manuever but it won't make you win serveral times in that vod and then at the end as the pylon was finally destroyed the crowd and commentators went from super hyped to absolutely quiet until that victory screen came up and the commentators went absolutely berserk. That moment was the most epic single moment for me. The game didn't mean much and I allready thought it was over but the point of realisation when the victory screen popped up was so epic.
The Nada vs Yellow game was epic in itself because it was so extremely even for so long and there were some WTF moments when swarms came up perfectly or the wraith coming in to save the day. Also you had a feeling that the game didn't matter much since it was a showmatch and they were laughing and so on.
I guess it's up to what you prefer. Watching a drawn out drama that may end up going either way or being totaly flabbergasted by an unlikely surprise. I prefer the latter so I like the Savior TT game better.
Just downloaded and watched. AMAZING, AMAZING, AMAZING choice of games. I loved every single one of them. Great show, I enjoyed every single minute of it.
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