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Innovation 4 - 0 sOs - WCS Season One Finals

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Innovation 4 - 0 sOs - WCS Season One Finals

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June 9th, 2013 20:33 GMT

2013 WCS Europe

WCS Season One Finals



Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

With one more chance, Innovation seals the deal

by Fionn

Heralded as the best player in the world for months, (T)STX_INnoVation finally won the trophy he needed to seal the deal. Just a week after his disastrous GSL finals experience against Soulkey, where he let a 3 - 0 lead slip out of his hands, Innovation crushed Soulkey's teammate (P)sOs 4 - 0 in the WCS Season 1 Grand Finals. After dispatching Mvp in a close semi-final series, Innovation headed into his second final the span of a week fully understanding the stakes and knowing how slim the margin was between victory and defeat. This time, he made sure his opponent would get no second chances. The nervous sOs, who entered his first finals in his young career, stood no chance against the battle-hardened and utterly ruthless Innovation.

4

(T)INnoVation


(T)INnoVation < Whirlwind > (P)sOs
(T)INnoVation < Bel'Shir Vestige > (P)sOs
(T)INnoVation < Akilon Wastes > (P)sOs
(T)INnoVation < Neo Planet S > (P)sOs
0

(P)sOs



The first game set the tone for the series with Innovation playing his usual ultra-aggressive style, flying around the map with medivacs loaded with hellbats. At first, sOs' defense seemed to be rock solid, but with multi-prong attack spreading him thin, cracks started to appear and eventually Innovation was able to exploit them. Taking an economic lead with his drops, Innovation didn't stop with the pressure, whizzing across the map with even more hellbat drops and taking out sOs' feeble attempts to hold with zealots. Down nearly forty army supply, there wasn't much left for sOs to do but wait for his ultimate demise, and he GG'd out when Innovation came marching in with his superior force.

Hoping to tie things up, sOs went for one of his signature tricky builds on the second map, opting to proxy a stargate in hopes of getting a leg up with an early oracle. Wanting to replicate Innovation's success with his aerial play on the first map, sOs' oracles seemed to do the trick early on, killing off a number of workers and putting Innovation on the back foot. Warping in stalkers and zealots to keep up the pressure, it appeared to be just a matter of time until sOs choked out Innovation and tied up the series.

Unfortunately for sOs, he misjudged the situation and hastily pushed his stalkers up into Innovation's base in an attempt to end the game quickly, rather than try to play out his advantage slowly and methodically. sOs paid the price for his recklessness, as his troops were surrounded by SCVs and gunned down by marines. Having thrown away his advantage, sOs found himself massively behind for the second straight game, not even having a nexus at his natural expansion while Innovation already had a second orbital command center ready to float down. Just as in game one, Innovation pushed his econ lead, massed up his army, and eventually went to kill the helpless sOs.

Put down into a 2 - 0 hole, the first time finalist already seemed to be crumbling. Soulkey had noted in a prior interview that if sOs was able to take the first game, he would have been in a good mental position to take the series. But being down two games to the top Terran in the world was too deep a hole for a player already noted to have nervousness issues in high pressure games to climb out of.

The series continued to play out by the same script in game three, with Innovation confirming that sOs' defense wasn't strong enough to defend his drops. The game started out even, as both players built up to around 100 supply on even bases. But then - just like the first game - the drops were too much for sOs, and all the holes in his static defense were exploited, giving Innovation a large army advantage. In his panic, sOs even built an accidental second templar archives as Innovation pulled further and further ahead.

To sOs' credit, he managed regain his composure, and put up a good fight toward the end, pulling off perfect feedbacks against drops to give him a small window of opportunity. Closing the gap in supply and having the stronger army composition, it looked like he might be able to steal a victory if he could get enough blink stalkers to support a colossus based army, but his composition just never came together in time to stop Innovation's overwhelming army. Down 0 - 3, sOs had to put on his best GGPlay and Soulkey impression if he wanted to take the championship and place Innovation in a club that even MarineKing didn't belong to.

Deciding that standard play or conventional cheeses like proxy oracles wouldn't work against Innovation, sOs pulled out possibly the most out of left field strategy we've ever seen in a major final. Wanting to play the ultimate turtle game, sOs put all his chips down on the tempest. The hope was that if he could get enough high templars and tempests, Innovation would never be able to attack him straight up, while constant zealot harassment would be able to wear him down.

Right out of the gate, the strategy looked to be an embarrassment, Innovation finding about the tempests early and being able to put up three starports in retaliation. The entire linchpin of the build came down to being able to hold the fourth base - the center gold base on Planet S - using the tempests and high templars to stop any incoming attacks to try and take it out. Innovation didn't let sOs set up in turtling position, rushing in the first chance he had with his speedy bio army, sniping down the base and moving out with minimal losses.

This dance would continue for most of the mid-game, sOs building tempests, hoping to get into an ultra late-game situation, and playing turret defense with his gold base. Innovation would continually rush in with his medivacs and bio army, take heavy losses from storms and the shock blasts from the tempests, but be able to take out the gold base in the end, giving him the large economic advantage.

Finally, after going through the same cycle for most of the game, sOs got the army that he wanted. With 10+ tempest on the map, he was able to do his zealot run-bys, kill off a large amount of Innovation's workers, and even move around the map with his air force and target down the extra bases that Innovation was trying to secure. Evening out the army supplies and taking a slight edge in economy, the crazy strategy built around the overlooked long rage Protoss air unit was starting to look more and more genius.

The climactic battle came at the gold base, Innovation rushing in with his marines and vikings, wanting to take out as many tempests as possible. Both sides took heavy losses in the exchange, still at around the same supply by the time it was over, but Innovation gained the huge advantage by breaking the critical mass of the expensive, slow-building tempests. With his opponent's core army composition broken, Innovation had free reign to run around sacking sOs's before he replenished his tempest numbers.

The biggest factor in why sOs eventually lost the game was the upgrades. With a 0/2 army against 3/3 bio, sOs had no chance against Innovation's infantry, losing engagements that he would have normally won if the upgrades were even. In a world where his upgrades were better, sOs would have actually come out with the victory in this crazy game, maybe even creating a new PvT paradigm by with his tempest centered army. Unfortunately, he overlooked the upgrades to try and get a high tech army, investing all his money into the tempest/templar combination.

Down 100 supply after losing all of his ground army to Innovation's upgraded forces, sOs tried to hold on one more time with his remaining air fleet. With not enough storms to blow up the ground forces, the marines were able to get under the tempests, take them out, and secure a 4 - 0 victory for Innovation.

Writers: Fionn.
Graphics: shiroiusagi.
Editor: Waxangel.
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 09 2013 20:36 GMT
#2
This title does not spoiler anything at all.
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
June 09 2013 20:39 GMT
#3
On June 10 2013 05:36 Cokefreak wrote:
This title does not spoiler anything at all.


There is "Hide Spoilers" button u know? It's been on TL for like 6 months or more... Damn people...

In process of reading and looks like sick article :D Bogus stomped sOs 4-0 sick
Luzian
Profile Joined February 2013
Switzerland26 Posts
June 09 2013 20:39 GMT
#4
Unfortunately I missed the finals, thanks for the good writeup! Poor sOs, he is my second favorite Protoss behind JangBi.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 09 2013 20:41 GMT
#5
Well done Innovation. Other than his huge choke in the GSL finals, he was truly the most dominant player of Season 1.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
June 09 2013 20:42 GMT
#6
stayed up for Mvp till 6am, saw a great series, then went to bed. grats innovation
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
June 09 2013 20:43 GMT
#7
I dont know if it was just a timezone or the fact that I couldn't get 480 to not lag (normally can do 1080 ez)....but this tournament was not interesting at all
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
June 09 2013 20:45 GMT
#8
I was rooting for Mvp so so hard( Anyway, still a big fan of Innovation, so I'm happy he's got his title.
WellPlayed.org <3
plastic.zealot
Profile Joined January 2013
United States10 Posts
June 09 2013 20:48 GMT
#9
Shame about sOs though. Even though my head was telling me it wasn't going to happen, I was really hoping for another protoss champion. Still, innovation thoroughly deserved the win. Congrats.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 09 2013 20:51 GMT
#10
On June 10 2013 05:39 mtn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 05:36 Cokefreak wrote:
This title does not spoiler anything at all.


There is "Hide Spoilers" button u know? It's been on TL for like 6 months or more... Damn people...

In process of reading and looks like sick article :D Bogus stomped sOs 4-0 sick

That doesn't hide the title from many parts of the site, just from the sidebar and the homepage.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 09 2013 20:53 GMT
#11
Thanks for the writeup!
Moderatorlickypiddy
Sannex
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom9 Posts
June 09 2013 20:55 GMT
#12
Nice writeup thanks!
InnoVation!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
June 09 2013 20:56 GMT
#13
I wish Mvp had won that semi. But it is good to see a terran win finally.
Boxer | MVP | Taeja | TLO | Grubby | Bunny (danish)
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
June 09 2013 20:59 GMT
#14
The fact that MVP almost beat this guy shows that MVP is still a very strong contender for the title of best Terran. That's actually what I was most excited about this tournament. The fact that MVP is still as strong as ever is really cool.
DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
June 09 2013 20:59 GMT
#15
To me it was an excellent event; the best production quality I've seen in a long time. I missed out on the whole Brood War scene but seeing the WCS finals last night made me feel like I was witnessing something pretty amazing; I am excited for where professional SC2 will go in the future. Gratz Innovation, and well done sOs, Soulkey, and Mvp as well; I was particularly impressed with Mvp's play.
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
Zethiel
Profile Joined September 2010
Bolivia39 Posts
June 09 2013 20:59 GMT
#16
Personally, thinking on the effort the guys put into the game, and all that, $ 40K for the first place seems really low. Another thing not specifically related to the match-up, but again, about these tournaments is the fact that I really feel shameful when I'm trying to get my friends into the game, we are watching the streams of WCS, and 100% of all three, Korean, America and Europe, all had technical issues at some point.

On some it was Kaelaris muting the mics of both casters, computers stopping to response, lag or other technical issue that lead into a re-make. Same goes in America, and GSL/WCS Korea, even ProLeague. I mean, can't they afford to buy 4 computers with i7 quad core processors and decent GPU+RAM combos? When those things happen I want to dig a hole in the ground and bur my head in shame...

This is supposed to be like the Soccer World Cup, you don't see this sort of stuff that often in other sports...

Just my 2 cents. Anyways, I think INnoVation totally deserved getting it, amazing games, and Blizzard, please nerf the hellbats and medivacs... xD
Si no duele, no sirve - Esteban Zenteno
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
June 09 2013 21:06 GMT
#17
Innovation pretty damn good but its no GSL title.
spork1859
Profile Joined September 2012
United States11 Posts
June 09 2013 21:10 GMT
#18
Zethiel: Do u mean technical issues like the power going out at the last superbowl?
Ricemagical
Profile Joined November 2010
270 Posts
June 09 2013 21:11 GMT
#19
Awww no semifinal recap?
WeRRa
Profile Joined December 2010
378 Posts
June 09 2013 21:11 GMT
#20
On June 10 2013 06:06 Derez wrote:
Innovation pretty damn good but its no GSL title.

40 k and more wcs points this title is better than gsl and it was as hard to achieve, not to mention that he was so close to getting both titles, but well haters gonna hate.
InnoVation Fighting!!!
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
June 09 2013 21:12 GMT
#21
The position of the trophy makes Innovation part cyborg.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
June 09 2013 21:13 GMT
#22
Any more pics of innovation? Possibly High res.
Bumpkin
Profile Joined June 2013
1 Post
June 09 2013 21:20 GMT
#23
It was Terran vs Protoss. We all KNEW it was going to happen.

This is a two race game and in the surprising event that a Protoss actually manages to squeeze into the final, we witness massacre.

Ban me by all means, but if it's taboo to call the elephant in the room by his name, then nothing will ever improve, and all we have is a climate of fear where everyone is afraid to acknowledge that the Emperor has no clothes.

Well here I am saying it. The Emperor has no clothes. It's a two race game at the moment that works in Terran's favour.

User was banned for this post.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 09 2013 21:23 GMT
#24
On June 10 2013 05:36 Cokefreak wrote:
This title does not spoiler anything at all.


This yet a fucking gain? -.-

Gz to bogus, glad he won.
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Gorribal
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Canada186 Posts
June 09 2013 21:25 GMT
#25
Silly sOs, trix are for kids
"PartinG keeps touching us and groping us (laughs)." - Rain
Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
June 09 2013 21:34 GMT
#26
On June 10 2013 06:20 Bumpkin wrote:
It was Terran vs Protoss. We all KNEW it was going to happen.

This is a two race game and in the surprising event that a Protoss actually manages to squeeze into the final, we witness massacre.

Ban me by all means, but if it's taboo to call the elephant in the room by his name, then nothing will ever improve, and all we have is a climate of fear where everyone is afraid to acknowledge that the Emperor has no clothes.

Well here I am saying it. The Emperor has no clothes. It's a two race game at the moment that works in Terran's favour.

User was banned for this post.

Kinda hard squeezing in 3 races into single finals
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
June 09 2013 21:45 GMT
#27
appreciated write up, since i fell asleep last night T_T

PS: i think there is a typo in "Evening out the army supplies and taking a slight edge in economy, the crazy strategy built around the overlooked long rage Protoss air unit was starting to look more and more genius."
range?

4th to last paragraph.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
June 09 2013 21:47 GMT
#28
no semifinal recap? : (

but thanks for this article.
TL+ Member
smashlloyd20
Profile Joined October 2012
251 Posts
June 09 2013 22:11 GMT
#29
Full writeup on this one sided stomp, but nothing on the semis with Mvp which was one of the best series in HoTS we've ever seen?
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
June 09 2013 22:11 GMT
#30
For those of us that watched the GSL stream of the semi between Mvp and Innovation, all know that the only reason Mvp didn't win WCS finals was because he got cursed.
vidium
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania222 Posts
June 09 2013 22:16 GMT
#31
so when did this all happen? even the wcs europe groups had more buzz than the finals...
You ever notice how no one returns to the barracks?
Miscellany
Profile Joined September 2011
Wales125 Posts
June 09 2013 22:20 GMT
#32
The WCS finals were fantastic. The only part that was disappointing was the quarters. The OGN stream was hilarious though, a big shoutout to Chobra for being an awesome translator
Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
June 09 2013 22:20 GMT
#33
Great read.

the crazy strategy built around the overlooked long rage Protoss air unit was starting to look more and more genius.


Should obviously be 'range'.
T0MORR0W
Profile Joined July 2011
United States101 Posts
June 09 2013 22:23 GMT
#34
Mvp was really impressive. While watching I felt like he would have pulled it out if only hellbat drops weren't quite so good.
L0L
Profile Joined August 2012
United States176 Posts
June 09 2013 22:27 GMT
#35
On June 10 2013 07:23 T0MORR0W wrote:
Mvp was really impressive. While watching I felt like he would have pulled it out if only hellbat drops weren't quite so good.


Yeah too bad he didn't know how good hellbats were and didn't use them himself. Maybe next time.
habermas
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom304 Posts
June 09 2013 22:51 GMT
#36
These finals were pretty terrible to be honest. sOs was so nervous he was getting supply blocked every 2 minutes in each game and kept misclicking everything even accidentally killing his own units at some point. Both semifinal series were much better than the finals imo, with Mvp games being some of the best in Hots so far.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 09 2013 22:54 GMT
#37
On June 10 2013 06:11 WeRRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 06:06 Derez wrote:
Innovation pretty damn good but its no GSL title.

40 k and more wcs points this title is better than gsl and it was as hard to achieve, not to mention that he was so close to getting both titles, but well haters gonna hate.


It's more money, but it's clearly not as hard as a GSL title. Weaker competition, less games, less time to prepare increases the luck factor, etc.
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theinfamousone
Profile Joined February 2011
United States103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 23:08:51
June 09 2013 23:05 GMT
#38
sOs never had a chance. Whether balance or mechanics, Innovation was always 25 supply ahead by the 9 minute mark even after losing several drops without much damage, and would never let sOs leave his base. I liked sOs's idea to go for the Oracle cheese, because it was obvious from the first game where sOs played pretty much perfectly and still never had a snowball's chance in hell at engaging Innovation (until Innovation finally a-moved into his base) to the point where he'd have to take a risk and hope he could end it early.

I also liked his idea in game 4 to just straight up turtle with tempests with the idea that if early game cheese won't work, he might be able to go for an unstoppable late game protoss deathball. Unfortunately tempests are just a little bit too slow to be everywhere sOs needed them to be and honestly not cost effective vs 3-3 marines.

I liked Innovation's aggressive expansions. He had the top left and bottom right mining and if sOs wanted to take it out, he'd have to commit his very slow army leaving himself exposed elsewhere. It seems like if sOs had built a backup 4th Nexus in mid lower right instead of betting the game on keeping that gold over and over, he might've been ok. 400 minerals really isn't that big of a deal when you're on 3 bases. Innovation kept taking un cost effective engagements to stop that gold 4th and if sOs had been mining at the same rate as Innovation, he would've been ahead. Innovation was always behind in units lost, but always ahead in supply due to his expansion timings.
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
June 09 2013 23:09 GMT
#39
It was actually A LOT closer than everyone thinks..

If things weren't as bad - sOs might've started with a 3:1 in those first 4 games..

G1 was a ridiculous doom drop that no matter how many units are shooting at the Terran - they can just stim and focus Nexus down which made me angry a lot, that was so gay.. sOs was playing better in G1 by faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar up until that Nexus snipe.. AND yes - it was really unfortunate cause like literally the damn last Marauder shell caused it to shatter.. And made me really ridiculously hate Terran (at least for a while) --> because all it took was ONE damn drop to succeed to win the game, didn't matter that Terran had like 5 failed Hellbat drops before that.. Didn't matter at all.. Looked like all it takes is ONE successful shot to kill Protoss which is really frustrating.. really..

G2 was like smacked down and beaten up and battered down Innovation with like 20 less workers and half of his base on fire, but yah - sOs went for the kill.. Well - now we officially know that you can't outright kill Terran.. Even if they went super greedy opening and losing a sh*t ton to a proxy Star-Gate.. But damn - sOs threw that game away.. :/

Then I guess my b*tching session came up so I didn't watch G3..

But G4 man - that thing - that was awesome.. Was like watching White-Ra play a game vs Terran in Beta.. But yah - even if Innovation faced up a strat that he 100% hasn't had the chance to prepare for - nevermind - doesn't matter if I don't know a sh*t to do against that - you're a Terran, and you do Marines, and then go for the kill..

IDK about you guys, but I'm really pissed by the fact that NO stargate unit is good vs Marines.. Sucks bad..

Were good finals though - not saying that sOs could've won this - not a damn chance, but deffinitely looked like some other "mystical force" broke him.. In all the games (well didn't watch the G3) he was in a good position/ahead and ended up eventually losing them..
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 09 2013 23:13 GMT
#40
sOs wasn't ahead until the nexus snipe. He was down by about 20 supply and lost very quickly afterwards.
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ManicMarine
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia409 Posts
June 09 2013 23:13 GMT
#41
The MVP vs Innovation set was the true finals, sOs was just a formality.

Good writeup anyway.
Manic by name, Manic by nature.
pumpfist
Profile Joined April 2013
Sweden4 Posts
June 09 2013 23:16 GMT
#42
Was gona ask about the spoiler thingy aswell. Then saw the first reply and a few other responses aswell regarding the matter. I have never ever experiencd this before. getting the grand final results beeing spoild for me the same day it was played here on tl. Was just gona do a quick glimpse at what streams were on, while watching thru the entire finals since i have been away. Since i alwaysd felt it was safe to go at tl even if not up to date on the results of a major tourney. Its been my experience you guys have always waited to post results like that. But today i was watching ro16, was gona watch final set of ro16. Then boom i see the grand final results...

Now i see what u guys hinted at, sighing at people complaining since theres actualy an option to "hide spoilers"
I havent seen that before for some reason. Maybe its new?!

But then may i ask why would you choose to post results like that, that close to the live event ending.
And not set that hide spoiler check box as default. Alsow for some1 to find and click that check box to prevent beeing spoild. They would had to get either realy lucky not having that one picture baner popup during the time frame they needed inbetween locating that check mark (which is just below that actual large spoiler banner)
Or one would -most likly- like me just see that banner and its result spoiler as soon as one enters the site.
Without any chance to actualy click the check box before getting spoild.

I can only see one reason for not having spoilers hidden as default. And that would be something like to show that teamliquid is uptodate?! I cant see that beeing a worthy reason. Since most people know tl is the best site on the net anyways.


I know this prob got realy offtopic and alsow probably have a more proper place. But im not sure where.
Feel free to move or remove it. i just wanted to vent and see if anyone could share some light on this to me.
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Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
June 09 2013 23:23 GMT
#43
On June 10 2013 08:13 GolemMadness wrote:
sOs wasn't ahead until the nexus snipe. He was down by about 20 supply and lost very quickly afterwards.

Correct, which is an even larger indictment on the state of the game considering sOs had just deflected a number of hellbat drops about as well as can be expected.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 23:48:03
June 09 2013 23:29 GMT
#44
On June 10 2013 06:11 WeRRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 06:06 Derez wrote:
Innovation pretty damn good but its no GSL title.

40 k and more wcs points this title is better than gsl and it was as hard to achieve, not to mention that he was so close to getting both titles, but well haters gonna hate.

That's sort of silly to say. The two opponents that Innovation would have faced in GSL were the exact same. It's just that sOs beat Soulkey this time around, which must (CLEARLY) mean that Soulkey is worse than sOs despite winning a GSL, right? A tournament win is a tournament win. People value it too much. I think it has to do with the money or something like that.

Also, Innovation didn't play superb. sOs just played really stupidly. His last game was his best game. I swear, sOs should have won at least 2 of those games if not for his poor decision making. Game 2? That shit was won, but instead he decided to rambo stalkers into Innovation's main and NOT take an expansion until forever despite having 800 minerals lying around. He even had 34 workers and still decided to just keep attacking. (Can someone please explain the reasoning behind that?)

Arghhhh.... not the whole spoiler discussion again. While I don't care either way personally (I usually just look at liquipedia the following day to check out the results) I do think being a little more subtle with it might be alright. Some people (evidently) really care about it. How many people really care to see that Innovation won 4-0 on the main page after having watched the series themselves?

Cool fact:
The upcoming WCS KR (Season 2) will contain 14 zergs, 10 protoss, 8 terrans. It looks like there has been 14 zergs in the Ro32 for the past 3 Code S.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 23:43:26
June 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#45
happy that he won the whole thing, but kinda disappointed it ended so quickly, our barcraft ended to early

and also trophy is terrible
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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
June 09 2013 23:40 GMT
#46
i've never ever been able to eat tempest templar EVER T_T
rip prime
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 23:40:44
June 09 2013 23:40 GMT
#47
On June 10 2013 06:20 Bumpkin wrote:
It was Terran vs Protoss. We all KNEW it was going to happen.

This is a two race game and in the surprising event that a Protoss actually manages to squeeze into the final, we witness massacre.

Ban me by all means, but if it's taboo to call the elephant in the room by his name, then nothing will ever improve, and all we have is a climate of fear where everyone is afraid to acknowledge that the Emperor has no clothes.

Well here I am saying it. The Emperor has no clothes. It's a two race game at the moment that works in Terran's favour.

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There were, what, 8 zergs in the ro16? They're doing fine. Also, most people expected Soulkey, a zerg, in the finals.
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
June 10 2013 00:16 GMT
#48
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Gendo
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom216 Posts
June 10 2013 00:18 GMT
#49
Congratz to him, don't know what it is but he has always a weird look, is it just me?
ZerGGling
Profile Joined November 2012
26 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 00:22:15
June 10 2013 00:21 GMT
#50
I really would loved to watch a soulkey vs Innovation finals , i'm so frustrated about the cannon rush . I don't know why does that spot (where u can block the probe with two pylons) in Bel'shir Vestige. I think soulkey vs Inno would have been a much more entertaining and hyped finals.
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
June 10 2013 00:22 GMT
#51
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mostwanted
Profile Joined March 2011
83 Posts
June 10 2013 00:43 GMT
#52
SOS: I will train harder so the next time we meet. It won't be like today.

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Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany673 Posts
June 10 2013 00:50 GMT
#53
On June 10 2013 06:11 WeRRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 06:06 Derez wrote:
Innovation pretty damn good but its no GSL title.

40 k and more wcs points this title is better than gsl and it was as hard to achieve, not to mention that he was so close to getting both titles, but well haters gonna hate.

fully agreed
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
June 10 2013 00:56 GMT
#54
I gave up watching after Innovation 3-0, since I knew sOs wouldnt pull a comeback. Alas, the final game seemed to be the only one worth watching
anatase
Profile Joined May 2010
France532 Posts
June 10 2013 02:14 GMT
#55
are the final vods only available to subscribers ?
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
June 10 2013 02:15 GMT
#56
On June 10 2013 07:20 Henk wrote:
Great read.

Show nested quote +
the crazy strategy built around the overlooked long rage Protoss air unit was starting to look more and more genius.


Should obviously be 'range'.

This is working as intended.

Congrats to Innovation, but I kinda feel sorry for sOs, he outplayed Innovation in parts of each game, but just couldn't get himself into a lead. I thought the first game was looking very one-sided in sOs' favour, with how bad he stomped Innovation's drops without actually losing anything, but then in the final engagement he just got crushed. Obviously his build decisions weren't quite right, but I'd love to look at the replays and discover just how exactly sOs managed to lose a few of those games.
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
Billinator
Profile Joined July 2012
United States86 Posts
June 10 2013 02:38 GMT
#57
On June 10 2013 08:09 VArsovskiSC wrote:

IDK about you guys, but I'm really pissed by the fact that NO stargate unit is good vs Marines.. Sucks bad..

.


You realize that oracles are very good against marines? Being good against a unit does not mean that you can kill it with vastly inferior supply. one oracle isn't going to kill 20 marines (20 supply vs 3 supply). sorry. That doesn't mean oracles aren't good against marines though.
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EkiMGnaW
Profile Joined March 2011
United States45 Posts
June 10 2013 03:04 GMT
#58
Definitely a frustrating series to watch.

Game 1 really had me scratching my head. sOs defending brilliantly against the hellbat drops only to be defeated by a doom drop. Ugh.

Game 4 was definitely the best game but I think Carriers would've been a better choice or at least mix a few Carriers in with the Tempests. That said, still very exciting to watch.

Many congrats to Innovation for a well-deserved win and sOs has just cemented himself as one of my favorite players to watch for his innovations in Protoss play.
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
June 10 2013 03:27 GMT
#59
Any Protoss try to mix in phoenix pairs to cover your two sides? Seems there needs to be a way to effectively shutdown the medivac before it gets two suicide hellbats on your probes.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
June 10 2013 03:38 GMT
#60
ez
the throws never bothered me anyway
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
June 10 2013 04:00 GMT
#61
That last game between innovation and sos was so good. And game 2 between innovation and mvp. My god...
Jaedong <3
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 10 2013 04:09 GMT
#62
WCS was soooo good. I say the Innovation MVP series was the best, but Innovation sOs was also really good. Even though it was a 4-0 victory, it was pretty hard fought.
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
June 10 2013 04:17 GMT
#63
On June 10 2013 12:27 Sufinsil wrote:
Any Protoss try to mix in phoenix pairs to cover your two sides? Seems there needs to be a way to effectively shutdown the medivac before it gets two suicide hellbats on your probes.


Watch the first Jangbi - Flash game in the recent Khan-KT PL match. Jangbi executed the best stargate build (utilizing Phoenixes to shut down early drops and then to be annoying) I've ever seen.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
June 10 2013 04:19 GMT
#64
It's a shame that the end result was 4-0. sOs is definitely better than that and the games weren't one sided. I thought Innovation's vP was a bit weak (on reflection I'm not sure why), but boy was I wrong.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
June 10 2013 04:35 GMT
#65
Innovation is heading to grab a WCG title.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
DustbinBieber
Profile Joined April 2013
France276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 05:19:46
June 10 2013 04:54 GMT
#66
I'm a Terran player and a big Bogus fan, sHy probably choked a little but damn this finals sure made the match-up look lopsided and imbalanced.
Now that Protosses get their mass zealot warp-ins (that gave them their late-game dominance on WoL) destroyed by hellbats it really seems like PvT has become a hard puzzle to solve.
Design, design.

Grats to Bogus, monster mechanics again.
There was an FPVOD of him on OGN2 at some point, fucking crazy.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
June 10 2013 07:56 GMT
#67
On June 10 2013 13:35 elmerpogs wrote:
Innovation is heading to grab a WCG title.


That would be a crowning achievement.



/sarcasm
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khmerrouge
Profile Joined February 2012
Slovenia15 Posts
June 10 2013 08:54 GMT
#68
Watch the first Jangbi - Flash game in the recent Khan-KT PL match. Jangbi executed the best stargate build (utilizing Phoenixes to shut down early drops and then to be annoying) I've ever seen.


As i was watching the game i was thinking why toss dont do phoenix thing more often
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
June 10 2013 09:11 GMT
#69
On June 09 2013 19:09 juicyjames wrote:
If your VODs have no sound just refresh a few times or remove the timestamp and go through the VODs manually. It's a TwitchTV bug.

WCS SEASON 1 FINALS SPOILER-FREE VODS




Group A
Match 1: EG.aLive.RC vs Woongjin.Soulkey
Match 2: EG.Stephano.RC vs Liquid.TLO
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group B
Match 1: Axiom.Ryung vs LG-IM.Mvp
Match 2: Axiom.Alicia vs LG-IM.KangHo
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group C
Match 1: Liquid.HerO vs Mill.fOrGG
Match 2: AZUBU.Symbol vs Woongjin.sOs
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group D
Match 1: EG.Revival.RC vs STX.INnoVation
Match 2: ROCCAT.DIMAGA vs Samsung.RorO
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match



Quarter-Finals A
Winner of Group A vs Second of Group D

Quarter-Finals B
Winner of Group B vs Second of Group C

Quarter-Finals C
Winner of Group C vs Second of Group B

Quarter-Finals D
Winner of Group D vs Second of Group A



Semi-Finals A
Winner of Quarter-Finals A vs Winner of Quarter-Finals B

Semi-Finals B
Winner of Quarter-Finals C vs Winner of Quarter-Finals D



Grand Finals
Winner of Semi-Finals A vs Winner of Semi-Finals B



All credit goes to Juicyjames who is without a doubt a total baller.
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Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
June 10 2013 09:45 GMT
#70
Innovation may deserve to be a champion, but sOs deserves his ID.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 11:39:21
June 10 2013 11:38 GMT
#71
Any VODs of the mvp vs innovation serious? I'd love to see prince Arthas murder King Terenas

Edit: oh lol. Am I blind or something?
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
June 10 2013 12:23 GMT
#72
On June 10 2013 11:38 Billinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 08:09 VArsovskiSC wrote:

IDK about you guys, but I'm really pissed by the fact that NO stargate unit is good vs Marines.. Sucks bad..

.


You realize that oracles are very good against marines? Being good against a unit does not mean that you can kill it with vastly inferior supply. one oracle isn't going to kill 20 marines (20 supply vs 3 supply). sorry. That doesn't mean oracles aren't good against marines though.


Oracles are terrible against marines with stim. Stimmed Marines eat oracles alive.

They are only great against non-stimmed marines.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
June 10 2013 12:34 GMT
#73
On June 10 2013 21:23 Figgy wrote:
Oracles are terrible against marines with stim. Stimmed Marines eat oracles alive.


Well, yes, almost every unit in the game is pretty terrible against stimmed marines. At least without support. And it's kinda hard getting support units for your early oracles, especially when the stargate is killed.
maru G5L pls
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
June 10 2013 19:36 GMT
#74
It bogs me people still call him bogus, Innovation is a new player Bogus is dead :D
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
June 10 2013 19:46 GMT
#75
gj innovation! I seriously need to start using hellbats more...
I'm terranfying
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 21:31:57
June 10 2013 21:28 GMT
#76
Thanks for the spoilers in the title guys..

The finals were a one-sided roflstomp for the major part, except for game 4, where I feel Innovation was toying with sOs a bit. The really good games were the semifinals imho, specially Innovation vs MVP it was a blast of a series.

GG Innovation, he finally got the title he deserved!
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Jaded.
Profile Joined June 2013
United States125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 01:32:28
June 11 2013 01:31 GMT
#77
SoS can play better than this but this finals really seemed more of a mental fortitude fight. SoS looked so nervous making so many mistakes (game 4 shooting his own tempests, and killing his own templar). SoS really needs more time on the big stage.

That said though Innovation was just in top forum. Even if SoS wasn't nervous he would be hard pressed to take down Innovation.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. What I'm saying is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know that we don't know
DustbinBieber
Profile Joined April 2013
France276 Posts
June 11 2013 04:51 GMT
#78
On June 11 2013 04:36 never_Nal wrote:
It bogs me people still call him bogus, Innovation is a new player Bogus is dead :D


But, but.... Innovation is such a crappy nick :-(
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 13:09:06
June 11 2013 13:08 GMT
#79
Pretty sure Innovation was gonna take this. Nice commanding performance to solidify himself as the best in the world.

EDIT: Bogus is a fuckin' great nick, by the way.
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Houron
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97 Posts
June 11 2013 17:15 GMT
#80
Woo! Bogus!!!
Give me something to shoot!
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 11 2013 21:02 GMT
#81
On June 11 2013 10:31 Jaded. wrote:
SoS can play better than this but this finals really seemed more of a mental fortitude fight. SoS looked so nervous making so many mistakes (game 4 shooting his own tempests, and killing his own templar). SoS really needs more time on the big stage.

That said though Innovation was just in top forum. Even if SoS wasn't nervous he would be hard pressed to take down Innovation.


It's progress though; last time he completely melted down in the Ro4 =p. This time he played pretty clutch against SoulKey.
crabcombs
Profile Joined December 2011
United States4 Posts
June 11 2013 23:38 GMT
#82
were can i find replay?S?
Guileful
Profile Joined November 2012
Kazakhstan137 Posts
June 12 2013 08:36 GMT
#83
On June 12 2013 08:38 crabcombs wrote:
were can i find replay?S?

Nowhere, only VODs available
Louis8k8
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 18:35:29
June 12 2013 18:34 GMT
#84
This finals would be a lot better if it was MVP vs sOs or Innovation vs Soulkey. The moment MVP lost in semi, I expected a rofl-stomp finals. I'll probably end up remembering MVP vs Innovation as the finals since it was so exciting.

Wouldn't have watched finals at all if there wasn't all the buzz about the final game with Temp + High Temp + Cannon turtle. The last game was entertaining. Even though I didn't feel a personal bias, I really wanted sOs to win that one just so he wouldn't be left with a 0-4 as his first major finals. That must hurt

I did NOT know that sOs was sitting a 0-2 upgrades. Was he really at 0-2 for the entire game past mid-game?

Congrats to Innovation.
InfSmoKe
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1 Post
June 13 2013 06:26 GMT
#85
Poor sOs :c Life Fighting for WCS Season 2!
I Life<3 I sOs l SoulKey I PartinG I JangBi I Fantasy I
QCD
Profile Joined September 2012
Suriname81 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 08:25:19
June 13 2013 08:24 GMT
#86
Good series. Some of the games were close, (Wiki)SoS was just so obviously nervous, I was watching Artoses's stream "Meta" on the show (Wiki)SeleCT ROOT.(Wiki) Theognis and Mouz. (Wiki)Illusion noted that (Wiki)SoS was building eztra buildings, and killing some of his own units.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 13 2013 21:47 GMT
#87
That was something the casters were pointing out during the series as well. It was pretty funny listening to them agonize while watching SoS warp in matching Twilight Council's side by side (although he did catch that at the last minue).

I wonder if the upgrades thing was more of the same, because he ended that game with a ton of gas (granted he was realy mineral starved) and was constantly missing pylons.
P4tchz3rg
Profile Joined June 2013
Korea (North)11 Posts
June 14 2013 05:36 GMT
#88
sos played pretty strong, but he looked like he is suffering wrist injuries

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