After Alliance.NaNiwa's second place finish at DreamHack Stockholm, many saw him as one of the favorites at WCS Europe. Alas, it was not to be, as consecutive losses to BabyKnight and VortiX saw the Swede fall down to the Challenger League. Instead, it was the 2012 WCS Russia runner-up Empire|Happy who took top honors in group B, not dropping a single map as he earned himself a quarter-final spot.
Great fundamental HotS Terran play allowed Happy to get by his first opponent K3.VortiX, as he used the power of drops and widow mines to the fullest. Even going down several dozen supply to a baneling bust couldn't faze Happy, as he powered his way back with methodical drops. It was basically the same story against BabyKnight, as Happy used the power of drops to the fullest to make the Danish Protoss miserable. Overall, Happy brought an overpowering brand of standard Terran play that his opponents could not overcome.
The second place spot in the group was decided in a close battle between VortiX and BabyKnight, who had both defeated NaNiwa earlier in the group. After trading a map piece in two quick games, BabyKnight came out on top in the final set as his combined Protoss army ripped VortiX apart before he could successfully transition into hive units.
We've already seen one Korean great from the past fall in MMA – now all eyes are turned to see if Mvp will suffer the same fate. Actually, Mvp would probably laugh at the comparison. He may have lost to MMA in one GSL final long ago, but he still has three more Code S titles than the ex-SlayerS ace, and he used his veteran savvy to stay in title contention during the BL-Infestor era while MMA was nailed to Code B.
It's undeniable that Mvp has looked bad both on paper and in terms of gameplay over the last six months, possibly worse than he has in his entire SC2 career. Forget the IEM World Championship, a tournament that took place under special circumstances (before HotS release), the results of which have proven to be an awful indicator of HotS form. If you take that away, you're left with a player that got knocked out of Iron Squid by Goswser, went 0 – 4 in the Blizzard Cup, and fell instantly from Code S to Code B at the hands of soO, Keen, and RorO. He recently lost to Scarlett in the GSTL, and was crushed by DIMAGA in the Ro32 of WCS EU (albeit, there was KR-EU lag).
All that said, he's getting through this group. Even with the infamous KR-EU lag, he managed to take out Siw and Socke to progress through his Ro32 group. Also, he's f***ing Mvp, the greatest player to ever play StarCraft II. The last time we doubted him and said he was finished as a competitive player, he killed everyone at IEM Cologne and won the championship. No further questions will be taken.
SaSe has the misfortune of being the first player to take on Mvp, but if we had to give any player from this group the nod to beat the 4-time champ, it would have to be SaSe. The Swede's ability to bring clever, effective builds – whether they're all-ins or greedy set-ups (or some weird combination of the two) – is well-known and admired. While he preferred to play more normal-ish games in the Ro32, this series is the perfect place to bust out something unusual. Remember, SaSe was the player who immortaled a prime-Stephano to death before the words Soul Train existed, and was one of the few to briefly put the summer of TaeJa '12 on ice (a two base blink-stalker build did the trick).
Of course, we can't talk about SaSe without the usual lines about inconsistency in big tournaments and big matches. What can we say, that's what the tournament results for his career show. However, he's been on a pretty good roll in HotS so far, killing his Ro32 group with wins against ForGG and Slivko, and then making it to the Ro16 of DreamHack Stockholm with wins against Nerchio, Jaedong, Goswser, and ForGG along the way. If he can beat Mvp here, then I don't see who can stop SaSe in this entire tournament outside of PvP.
Lucifron was our pick as 'best post-HotS' foreigner when online results were all we could go by in Europe, but unfortunately he didn't get to prove his live stage chops at DreamHack: Stockholm. As many of you may have heard, he fell victim to the worst rule that exists in any professional competition anywhere in the world, as DreamHack coin-flipped for the winners of his Ro64 group after two rounds of tiebreakers were inconclusive (even more embarrassing because it already happened to DreamHack before). Strelok and YuGiOh were luckier than Lucifron, and thus they progressed to get eliminated in the Ro32, probably because they were afraid that Lucifron might hit them with a chair at any moment.
In any case, Lucifron has some sick online results in HotS, and it wasn't any surprise that he destroyed Bly and Happy to reach the Ro16. While multi-prong harass and relentless working hunting has become the EU Terran norm, Lucifron was doing all of that of that way before it was cool, making him the 'Gumiho of Europe' if you will. Back at his first live event since DreamHack: Stockholm, Lucifron will look to right the wrongs committed against him and prove that he is the #1 non-Korean player in the world.
You know it's a tough group when Nerchio looks like the weakest player. Kas's comments on Nerchio's work ethic made the rounds on Reddit, and while we're sure the Ukrainian Terran has to be exaggerating (right?), what he said was not all that surprising. Nerchio's results have been decided 'decent' since the release of HotS, no longer at a level of a player we called a top 3 foreigner at times. A lack of practice combined with a lack of BL-infestor would certainly explain it.
That didn't stop Nerchio from making his way through his RO32 group, where he defeated Dayshi and Monchi to take second place to VortiX. Even if he's not at his peak powers, Nerchio is still talented enough to give all three of these guys some serious trouble. With the tremendous efficiency of hellbats and widow mines posing a problem for Nerchio, well calculated all-ins could be his best chance of going through a group with Mvp and Lucifron.
Overall Predictions:
Until doctors reveal that Mvp has the cartilage and nerve health of an 80 year old with arthritis, we just can't pick against him. As cliche as it always sounds, he just knows how to win. We're torn between SaSe and Lucifron as the second place finisher, but the fact that SaSe is starting against Mvp, and that Lucifron has karma on his side makes us go with the Spaniard.
Thanks for the write up! really hoping to see mvp come out better than he did last round. i have lucifron winning the group and mvp taking 2nd... again. as for group b, im still dazed that naniwa and vortix are out. its ... just... idk crazy.
On May 16 2013 19:44 RandyL wrote: forgive me for my lack of knowledge, but where can i go to watch these games? and where is infomation located on when these are being played?
the time till match start can be seen at the side of the very page you are on now. see the calendar on the right side close to the top? right below it is Featured On Air (which shows whats on now) and Upcoming Events. Click on [More] and browse through looking for whatever it is your looking for.
Welp, so far I've managed to get every single WCS EU Ro16 group wrong, so given that I'm betting on Mvp and Lucifron as well, chances are good that SaSe and Nerchio will get through.
The only thing embarrassing about Dreamhack tiebreaker rules is that is exposes communitys complete lack of understanding of fair play and how different group play systems work. It was pointed time and time again that the dreamhack system is much more fair than GSL/WCS system, perhaps less entertaining (to some) but more fair. Its very sad that TL writers spread this misconception.
On May 16 2013 20:29 Paragleiber wrote: "He may have lost to MMA in one GSL final long ago, but he still has three more Code S titles than the ex-SlayerS ace"
Wrong. Mvp only has two more Code S titles than MMA.
It's correct, MMA has 1 GSL title and one blizzcup title.
On May 16 2013 19:44 RandyL wrote: forgive me for my lack of knowledge, but where can i go to watch these games? and where is infomation located on when these are being played?
Thanks for the preview, Wax, this is the group I'm most excited for and probably the one I'm most emotionally invested in, too. I want LucifroN to win so badly, hope he doesn't choke.
If he doesn't choke, he wins, because he's better than both Nerchio and SaSe for sure atm in my opinion, not clear about Mvp as always because he played only four offline maps against real opponents in the last two months and one easy Bo3 against the punching bag that is MarineKing.
On May 16 2013 20:29 Paragleiber wrote: "He may have lost to MMA in one GSL final long ago, but he still has three more Code S titles than the ex-SlayerS ace"
Wrong. Mvp only has two more Code S titles than MMA.
It's correct, MMA has 1 GSL title and one blizzcup title.
I have a hunch that Sase will make it through. Mvp and Lucifron have to practice all three matchups, whereas Sase could probably only practice PvT and still make it through.
On May 16 2013 21:03 Artikka wrote: If someone missed NaNiwa being BM in Group B I made a video!
You're so cool Also, Mvp stands no chance in this group
Silliest thing I've ever heard. Mvp is miles better than all of these players combined. If his wrists allowed him to practice enough and don't bother him during the matches, he 4-0s this group.
Yeah that's a little overboard but you get the point.
On May 16 2013 21:03 Artikka wrote: If someone missed NaNiwa being BM in Group B I made a video!
You're so cool Also, Mvp stands no chance in this group
Silliest thing I've ever heard. Mvp is miles better than all of these players combined. If his wrists allowed him to practice enough and don't bother him during the matches, he 4-0s this group.
Yeah that's a little overboard but you get the point.
stephano is better than every korean combined, he would have won 20 GSLs by now if he went to korea earlier
On May 16 2013 19:44 RandyL wrote: forgive me for my lack of knowledge, but where can i go to watch these games? and where is infomation located on when these are being played?
Look on the top right of this site : there's a calandar and just down of it, a "on air" with all the relevant streams. You can see on "upcoming events" the tournaments coming. Welcome to TL
On May 16 2013 21:03 Artikka wrote: If someone missed NaNiwa being BM in Group B I made a video!
You're so cool Also, Mvp stands no chance in this group
Silliest thing I've ever heard. Mvp is miles better than all of these players combined. If his wrists allowed him to practice enough and don't bother him during the matches, he 4-0s this group.
Yeah that's a little overboard but you get the point.
stephano is better than every korean combined, he would have won 20 GSLs by now if he went to korea earlier
Only because the KeSPA players were still playing BW back then, you clueless eSF fanboy! :p
BTW there is a minor typo on the front page for this link:
Mvp barely made it through the Ro32, and now there will be no lag excuses as he comes to play in person in Cologne. Can he made it through a difficult group with SaSe, Lucifron, and Nerchio?
Is anyone really that surprised that Lucifron is having so much success in HOTS?
He was an incredibly aggressive and cheesy player in WOL, and with the changes HOTS made to the game, it really favors that kind of playstyle. Look at Drunkenboi.
On May 16 2013 20:29 Paragleiber wrote: "He may have lost to MMA in one GSL final long ago, but he still has three more Code S titles than the ex-SlayerS ace"
Wrong. Mvp only has two more Code S titles than MMA.
It's correct, MMA has 1 GSL title and one blizzcup title.
On May 16 2013 20:04 Silvanel wrote: The only thing embarrassing about Dreamhack tiebreaker rules is that is exposes communitys complete lack of understanding of fair play and how different group play systems work. It was pointed time and time again that the dreamhack system is much more fair than GSL/WCS system, perhaps less entertaining (to some) but more fair. Its very sad that TL writers spread this misconception.
Also:Go Nerchio!
Can you elaborate on this misconception that TL writers is spreading ? I didn't really watch dreamhack before Ro16 :/ Was it really a coin flip or not?
On May 16 2013 23:31 Waxangel wrote: I do honestly think Nov 2011~July 2012 Stephano could have gotten Ro4 or more in Code S
I would disagree. Stephano does really well in ad hoc tournament performances where opponents just go in and play. If he went to GSL where players have time to prepare, he'd probably get facerolled. If he prepared builds and did research I think he would have stood a chance, but he's too lazy to do that kind of stuff.
Also, MVP is turning into old MC-- you think he's out, then he says JK I'm gonna win a GSL now, sup.
On May 16 2013 19:44 RandyL wrote: forgive me for my lack of knowledge, but where can i go to watch these games? and where is infomation located on when these are being played?
On May 16 2013 20:04 Silvanel wrote: The only thing embarrassing about Dreamhack tiebreaker rules is that is exposes communitys complete lack of understanding of fair play and how different group play systems work. It was pointed time and time again that the dreamhack system is much more fair than GSL/WCS system, perhaps less entertaining (to some) but more fair. Its very sad that TL writers spread this misconception.
Also:Go Nerchio!
Can you elaborate on this misconception that TL writers is spreading ? I didn't really watch dreamhack before Ro16 :/ Was it really a coin flip or not?
Thanks to anyone who clarify this.
His point is, that round robin is more fair than dual tournament (like GSL). Not saying that I agree. The coinflip did happen.
On May 16 2013 20:29 Paragleiber wrote: "He may have lost to MMA in one GSL final long ago, but he still has three more Code S titles than the ex-SlayerS ace"
Wrong. Mvp only has two more Code S titles than MMA.
It's correct, MMA has 1 GSL title and one blizzcup title.
Mvp has one GSL WC and 3 GSL Code Ss
GSL WC can be considered as a Code S title.
I disagree. That GSL WC had only 16 players (8 of them foreigners) and no group stage. It was not a tournament that can be compared to Code S in my opinion and shouldn't be considered a "real" GSL. I know that Gom does but I don't think that it is right.
On May 16 2013 20:29 Paragleiber wrote: "He may have lost to MMA in one GSL final long ago, but he still has three more Code S titles than the ex-SlayerS ace"
Wrong. Mvp only has two more Code S titles than MMA.
It's correct, MMA has 1 GSL title and one blizzcup title.
Mvp has one GSL WC and 3 GSL Code Ss
GSL WC can be considered as a Code S title.
I disagree. That GSL WC had only 16 players (8 of them foreigners) and no group stage. It was not a tournament that can be compared to Code S in my opinion and shouldn't be considered a "real" GSL. I know that Gom does but I don't think that it is right.
On May 16 2013 20:29 Paragleiber wrote: "He may have lost to MMA in one GSL final long ago, but he still has three more Code S titles than the ex-SlayerS ace"
Wrong. Mvp only has two more Code S titles than MMA.
It's correct, MMA has 1 GSL title and one blizzcup title.
Mvp has one GSL WC and 3 GSL Code Ss
GSL WC can be considered as a Code S title.
I disagree. That GSL WC had only 16 players (8 of them foreigners) and no group stage. It was not a tournament that can be compared to Code S in my opinion and shouldn't be considered a "real" GSL. I know that Gom does but I don't think that it is right.
GOM's opinion > Yours. Sorry mate
It's a GSL but not a Code S
On May 16 2013 20:04 Silvanel wrote: The only thing embarrassing about Dreamhack tiebreaker rules is that is exposes communitys complete lack of understanding of fair play and how different group play systems work. It was pointed time and time again that the dreamhack system is much more fair than GSL/WCS system, perhaps less entertaining (to some) but more fair. Its very sad that TL writers spread this misconception.
it's not fair at all! dual tournament >>>> coinflip
Yup, Mvp, he's just one of those guys who can still take on Life during BL-Infestor, despite a broken wrist. I mean, he's got 3 Code S championships and 2 finalist Code S positions. Nay-sayers have said that Mvp ain't gonna make it but... lol