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LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
March 02 2013 07:29 GMT
#81
Winning much more than 50% nowadays in Sc2. I knew he had it in him
Zenniv
Profile Joined September 2011
United States545 Posts
March 02 2013 07:41 GMT
#82
Two years of balancing the game and we have dis >.>
On another note tho, Taeja played sooo well game 1 and 2.

Ppl calling Roro "patch-zerg" etc have no clue, Z is fuking imba but Roro is a damn good player. He got the macro, multi-tasking, build order preparation (micro is very good but not the best), but above all he's damn smart player and thinks on the fly. He's also infinitely patient (game 2).

PS. I can't believe ppl still refuse to acknowledge that Z is OP

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Kyyuna
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1222 Posts
March 02 2013 08:23 GMT
#83
Bring the title back to the motherland RorO!!!!!
1raxexpand
Profile Joined July 2012
United States165 Posts
March 02 2013 10:49 GMT
#84
It's now obvious that Zerg is more op than Terran ever was

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Yoshirou_Iba
Profile Joined January 2013
Paraguay37 Posts
March 02 2013 11:53 GMT
#85
i feel sorry for some good zerg players, because there are truly some good and smart zerg players out there, but its alittle hard to give credit when the balance problems is so blatant and untouched. but mostly im happy we get chance to revive the game with Hots, before too many players leave or lost interest, even zergs.
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 12:47:18
March 02 2013 12:44 GMT
#86
technicaly on the paper roro has much superior zvz than symbol, but so had curios too as all predicted him better in zvz than symbol aswell. i think roro gonna take it 4:2 so gogo roro!!

ps: dont understand all the whines about zergs... ask hyun, sniper drg and life why did they not make it to finals? prob the best bets where on life/drg, but they got simply outplayed by terans.
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
March 02 2013 13:07 GMT
#87
The first time I heard of Roro was when Idra beat him (in an MLG?). Good on him for getting this far. Sad to see Taeja lose as I really wanted a TvZ final, but at least we get an esf vs kespa match! Really, really want a kespa player to take home a gsl trophy. That should send a little jolt into the scene.
TerranTechie
Profile Joined August 2012
24 Posts
March 02 2013 15:37 GMT
#88
On March 02 2013 07:27 Evil_Sheep wrote:
This series was like a mirror of Innovation v Symbol. Both terrans were renowned for their zerg-killing abilities and superb lategame macro-oriented style. Both zergs scouted this and prepared a variety of aggressive builds and all-ins to keep it from going to the terran's favoured lategame every time.

I feel that Roro won because he did his homework in this series and Taeja did not. As I wrote earlier, Roro's only loss to terran this GSL was to MKP, both games to early timing attacks that caught him off-balance. # of timing attacks Taeja made this series: 0. At the same time, if Taeja watched the VOD's, he would see that Roro has gone for a lot of early aggression in zvt. Yet he was caught unprepared both times by early all-ins. The worst example was on Icarus, which is basically a 2-base all-in map, and he went triple-cc and went down to a simple baneling bust.

Basically Innovation and Taeja were stuck on one style that got figured out, and it led to their downfall.


"Terran's favoured lategame?" Are you mentally ill? Never mind, your entire post reeks of ignorance of the current state of WoL.
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
March 02 2013 16:46 GMT
#89
Oh look, ZvZ finals. Snoooooooooze.

Sad to see Taeja fall gl to everyone in HotS!
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achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
March 03 2013 00:46 GMT
#90
On March 02 2013 16:01 metzninja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 14:38 ElMeanYo wrote:
Well Roro didn't really use or abuse BL/Infestor and still won. I don't see how the supposed Z imbalance has anything to do with Roro's win over Taeja.


It's not the BL/Infestor combo, it's the queen range which shuts down early terran pressure, as well as the viability of early heavy pressure from the zerg (games 3 and 4).

Personally, I think pre queen/overlord buff was the golden period of SC2.
Shawters
Profile Joined October 2012
France26 Posts
March 03 2013 01:20 GMT
#91
Symbol must win, for esF players.
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
March 03 2013 02:03 GMT
#92
dangit Taeja...looks like it's gonna be a ZvZ final. Still proud of him for making that far.
I'm terranfying
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
March 03 2013 04:10 GMT
#93
Roro! I think Roro has the better chance to win the finals if Symbol makes the same mistake that Life and BboongBboong did. You don't fight the broodwar progamer on his own ground in ZvZ. Stop trying to harass him with zerglings in the early game... lol
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DaRKMaTT3r
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil553 Posts
March 03 2013 06:52 GMT
#94
Quote from Azubu.sc2 thread:
Supervisor IntoTheRain stated that "I am not expecting AZUBU to become a strong team right off the bat. Just like AZUBU'S LoL teams, Blaze and Frost, we are going to work Really hard and give everything we've got so that we can gradually become the world's best SC2 team."

GSTL Preseason finalist + GSL Finalist at same time, quite insane, wonder how would it be if they wanted to start strong.

Congrats to Roro, sadly a ZvZ finals so another GSL finals that i won't watch! =(
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
March 03 2013 10:10 GMT
#95
Ever since Ro16 I was praying that there is no ZvZ finals, too bad
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webhappy
Profile Joined February 2012
20 Posts
March 03 2013 11:39 GMT
#96
On March 02 2013 07:27 Evil_Sheep wrote:
This series was like a mirror of Innovation v Symbol. Both terrans were renowned for their zerg-killing abilities and superb lategame macro-oriented style. Both zergs scouted this and prepared a variety of aggressive builds and all-ins to keep it from going to the terran's favoured lategame every time.

I feel that Roro won because he did his homework in this series and Taeja did not. As I wrote earlier, Roro's only loss to terran this GSL was to MKP, both games to early timing attacks that caught him off-balance. # of timing attacks Taeja made this series: 0. At the same time, if Taeja watched the VOD's, he would see that Roro has gone for a lot of early aggression in zvt. Yet he was caught unprepared both times by early all-ins. The worst example was on Icarus, which is basically a 2-base all-in map, and he went triple-cc and went down to a simple baneling bust.

Basically Innovation and Taeja were stuck on one style that got figured out, and it led to their downfall.


This is a very good analysis. MKP really dominated Roro with his proxy gimmicks. In his Ro32 game 1, he 2-raxed and even got his bunker up at Roro's nat. He would've crushed game 1 but decided to put his rax add-ons outside his base where they got sniped. Game 2, he proxy-rax'ed, got scouted, but still won because he forced Roro to cancel his hatch first. Game 3, MKP won on Whirlwind (!) w/ a timing marine/stim push. The key is that he prompted Roro to cheese w/ an early pool. Taeja should mix in the occasional 2-rax.

I also agree w/ the similarity to how Innovation lost. After seeing INnovation crush Stephano, I thought he would win the GSL but he was too greedy w/ his openings vs Zergs and lost on Icarus, the same way Taeja did.

I also agree that both Taeja and Innovation have very good mid-late game w/ their multi-prong drops. The game that Innovation took down DRG on Akilon was incredible; DRG was so confused that he threw a bunch of infestors away.
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
March 03 2013 11:57 GMT
#97
Sigh it's really disappointing to see the game's balance end up this way in the twilight of the game, the top of the top are obviously loaded with Zergs. Take nothing away from Roro though, he's a great player having much less experience and caught up so well from behind. Hopefully we'll a mix of races among the top pros in hots after this season.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 03 2013 15:26 GMT
#98
RorO... truely anti-fan for me.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
March 03 2013 17:30 GMT
#99
KeSPA Code S champion?
Bumalate
Profile Joined January 2012
United States33 Posts
March 04 2013 06:30 GMT
#100
I'm so sad right now...
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