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December 6th, 2012 23:19 GMT

SKPlanet PRoleague

Table of Contents



Team Rankings
Rating the teams going into round one


For ultimate bragging rights, make sure to play Fantasy Proleague


SK Planet Proleague table and results at Liquipedia

The Test



This is the make or break period for Starcraft 2 in Korea. We can all agree, Brood War and SC2 fans alike, that the hybrid Proleague was an abomination and probably should never be mentioned again. Unfortunately for CJ Entus, a team that had a history of futility in the playoffs and finally won the big one last season, their championship victory will be remembered as the season that had 50% of the chairs empty during the finals. The SC2 fans didn't enjoy watching players who were still very much works in progress, and the Brood War fans didn't enjoy watching their game get butchered with most of the players focusing solely on SC2 and neglecting the game they played for the past decade.

Here we are in the first full SC2 season of Proleague, and it may very well tell us if there's any chance for SC2 in Korea. GomTV has made massive strides since 2010, and one can hope they will be able to lead the way alone. However, it would be infinitely helpful for SC2 in Korea if the fans who followed Brood War for over a decade could be won over. Proleague was the final evolution of esports, where enjoying a game turned into passion for a player, and passion for a player turned into loyalty to a team. With some of the oldest and best supported teams in StarCraft history, and an insane $250,000 in total prize money on the line, this Proleague will be the ultimate test.


Round 1 Team Rankings

by Fionn



With eight teams competing for the championship, it's time for a preseason power ranking to see how the teams stack up. There's a lot of uncertainty involved, since you never know what KeSPA player will suddenly 'get it' and start playing SC2 like a beast (hi, Bogus!). By the time we get to the sixth and final round, these rankings might be upside down for all we know. But going off the information we have right now, here are the rankings going into Round One of the new Proleague.


8. KeSPA Eighth Team [image loading]

Team Eight was going to be last place even before it was announced that Jaedong would be teaming up with Stephano over at the Unholy Alliance club house. Outside of Jaedong and (T)BaBy, they had no depth and almost no hope of really competing in a league that can only be won by having five players you can count on every single night. With Jaedong gone, they are now down to seven players, with only Baby having any sort of impact so far in the SC2 scene. We all love (P)Terminator's ID, but his games in Code A haven't been the most impressive, and when he's your second strongest player, you're in trouble.

Airforce Ace have been the ultimate underdogs since their inception, but with them finally bowing out of Proleague, T8 will be taking their place. Baby could be strong enough to be an ace if he can start being more consistent in SC2, but it will be almost impossible to carry this team on his shoulders alone. For T8 to even make the playoffs this season would be worthy of a Final Edit article on how this team is still standing.

They have no sponsor, just lost the face of their franchise, and half their team retired this off season. Led by their captain (P)Jaehoon, we will have to see if the pesky underdogs can fight off the seven other teams trying to stuff them into a coffin. The one year hourglass is running as KeSPA looks to make StarCraft II work in Korea and find a sponsor for their self-funded team.



7. KT Rolster [image loading]

Honestly, if it wasn't for Jaedong leaving T8, it would have been a closer race for last place. KT, besides (T)Flash, has been awful since moving to SC2. No one except for Flash has done anything of note in SC2, and he has been pretty much the only player you've seen play Starcraft 2 outside of the hybrid Proleague for his team. Crazy-Hydra has had his own flashes of brilliance in the MvP Invitational, showing that he can be a strong #2 behind Flash if he gets his act together, but then he failed to make Code A by falling to Startale's Brain in the second round of the qualifiers.

Luckily for KT, they have time and a big roster that should get better with time. (P)Stats, (Z)Action, (P)Wooki, (T)Mind, (Z)Acacia, and (P)Motive should get better as the season goes along. Stats, Action and Wooki should become strong members of KT's core and give them a strong line-up that can contend against anybody. KT, by the end of the season, should be fighting for a playoff spot if everything comes together.

Right now, it's a lot of hope and not a lot of results. Flash will do his part, already looking like one of the best KeSPA players, but the rest of the team will need to catch up to help them get into the playoffs. Out of all their players except for Flash and Crazy-Hydra, watch out for Wooki. Stats might have been the #2 behind Flash in Brood War, but Wooki might overtake him for that spot soon enough.


6. CJ Entus [image loading]

Yes, CJ won the title last season, but if you look at how well they did in the SC2 portion of the hybrid proleague, it wasn't anything amazing. (P)herO[jOin] carried their Protoss line to a 58% winning percentage, but their Zergs could only a muster a 47% win rate with (Z)EffOrt carrying, and their Terrans had an awful 30% in SC2. The Brood War side of the league really helped them out, with the heroic efforts of herO playing a huge part in winning the championship.

Looking at their roster, there is a lot of potential, but not a lot of results so far. herO, their ace for the first season, has failed to qualify for GSL since his impressive Proleague/WCS Korea efforts, and hasn't made a lot of noise since. Effort, the player that everyone expects to carry this team to great heights, failed to qualify for GSL and hasn't been setting the world on fire like a lot of people thought he would. Their Terran line of (P)Leta, (T)sKyHigh, (T)Horang2, (T)Snow and (T)Bbyong haven't done much outside of Bbyong, who is CJ's only player in Code S and in the second round of Code A.

Everything can change in this new season, but right now CJ Entus isn't as scary or consistent as the five teams above them in SC2. They don't have a Bogus, Rain, Soulkey, or Roro who has actually impressed in Code S and proved they can beat the best in the world. Effort should be that player for CJ, but he fell in the Code A qualifiers to Stars' Bravo in the semifinals. herO has shown that he can beat top end talent when he's playing well, but he's also been 2 - 0'ed by TheBest in the most recent Code A qualifiers.


5. STX Soul [image loading]

(T)Bogus, man. Bogus is the main reason why STX is in the top five, and he has been the best Terran so far in the transition period for KeSPA. Getting to the semifinals of Code S in his debut season, Bogus (now known as Innovation), turned a lot of heads with his timing attacks and insane micro. STX isn't solely about their ace, though. Behind Bogus they have players like (P)Mini, (P)Trap, (Z)Modesty and their former ace (Z)Calm who have either shown some good play in SC2, or, in Calm's situation, expected to show some good play very soon.

The two players that will need to be at their best for STX to battle for the championship are (Z)hyvaa and (T)Last. Hyvaa made the finals of the MvP Invitational and did well in the tournament, but floundered in his first Code A appearance against Genius. Last, who got 4th place in the first SC2 OSL, actually could have won the entire shebang if he didn't get reverse swept by Rain before getting reverse swept again by MC in the third place match. Last and hyvaa are the 2nd and 3rd strongest players currently on STX, but can they be counted on to perform in the clutch?


4. Samsung Khan [image loading]

Samsung is loaded with a ton of good players already in SC2. (P)JangBi, possibly the most impassioned KeSPA player about SC2, is getting better at the game and should by season's end, be one of the stronger Protosses. (P)Stork, while not having a ton of results, has shown solid play so far in his SC2 career and will be a valuable weapon in their arsenal. (Z)RorO, who showed such brilliant play early on in the KeSPA transition, might not be doing the greatest lately, but is still one of the better KeSPA SC2 pros and will be more than likely their ace early on in the season. (T)Reality, the first KeSPA pro to turn heads when they switched over to SC2, has been quiet since making his name in WCS Korea, but is another player who can be counted on to contribute. Even (T)Kop and (Z)Shine (not TSL's Shine) have been able to show some strong games in SC2 and will add even more depth to their team.

My pick for breakout player from Khan this season will be (T)TurN. Since his games in Brood War, I thought when he finally switched over to SC2 that he would be one of the biggest winners. His televised record of 2-5 isn't the prettiest, but I see him as a guy who will be one of the better bio-oriented Terrans in the upcoming season. Bogus had an awful 1-8 record before finally breaking out to be the strongest KeSPA so far in the switch, so don't count out Turn. Keep your eyes on this guy throughout the season and watch him become one of the most exciting players in the world. If you are a MarineKing fan, Turn is the bandwagon you want to jump on now.


3. Woongjin Stars [image loading]

Stars was actually the strongest team in last season's Frankenstein season. They had a staggering +19 map score differential, the best in the league by six wins, but still missed the playoffs with a massive choke in the end part of the season. With a 11-10 overall record, they placed 5th and outside the playoffs, creating a situation where possibly the strongest team wasn't able to compete for the championship.

Heading into the season they bring in line-up with five strong players: (Z)Soulkey, (Z)ZerO, sOs, (P)Flying and (T)Light. Soulkey was heralded as the strongest KeSPA SC2 player when there were no official matches going on and all the players were practicing on ladder, but it's only been recently when he had his break out in last season's Code S. sOs was statistically one of the best SC2 players in last season's hybrid Proleague, but didn't have the best showing in his first Code S season, going out in the Ro32. Zero is a player that should and more than likely will become one of the better Zergs in the league, and he could even become the ace if he develops as fast as some people think he will. Flying is a very good Protoss that can challenge sOs for the Protoss ace spot.

The biggest wild card for Stars will be their Terrans with (T)Light and Bravo. Ryu Won, the coach that helped MMA win two GSL titles, is on Stars now and that will help the Terrans the most on the Stars lineup. Bravo made it into Code A, but wasn't able to get past MC in the first round. Light, who seemingly didn't even try to qualify for Code A, was 5-1 in the SC2 side of Proleague last season and could be Ryu Won's new project if things go his way. MMA was the best player in the world with Ryu Won behind him, but has fallen to the bottom of the ladder without his coach.

Light (or even Bravo) with Ryu Won? Now that's a combination that could be deadly if it works out. Stars might not jump out at you as a title contender, but they are certainly the hipster pick to take the championship. They have great coaching, strong players, and a whole lot of potential.


2. SK Telecom T1 [image loading]

They not only have the strongest player in the entire league with (P)Rain, but their depth is becoming pretty staggering. (T)Fantasy, who has said that SC2 actually fits him better than Brood War, is rapidly improving every time he sets forth in the booth, and he's already in the second stage of Code A looking for his first appearance in Code S. Behind the two headed monster of Rain and Fantasy, you have the MvP Invitational champion in (Z)n.Die_soO, macro monster Best, and the man with the afro, (P)ParalyzE, who hasn't had a big breakout yet, but who should do well just on the strength of his great hair.

The biggest question mark for SKT is none other than (P)Bisu, the former ace of SKT before Rain took over his life six months ago. Since proclaiming that with forcefields in SC2 that it would be impossible for Protoss to lose, he has had no success in SC2 with his massive sentry army composition. He isn't as bad as he was when starting out, but he is still lagging behind most of the KeSPA players who switched.

Anyone who has watched Bisu throughout his career knows that he has the talent to excel in SC2, but he just - for whatever reason - hasn't been able to get there just yet. For SKT to win the title, they will need Bisu to at least become a regular member in their line-up. He doesn't need to be the super ace that he has been for the past few years in Proleague with the emergence of Rain, but he must become some sort of threat. Be a specialist on a single map or strong against a single race, Bisu's role for SKT will be one of the main stories to follow this season.

Oh, also, Boxer is the head coach.


1. The Unholy Alliance [image loading] - [image loading]

Wow, now this is going to be fun. Before the announcement of (Z)Jaedong to EG, I actually had them 2nd behind SKT for mainly travel reasons, but the incoming of Jaedong on this team pretty much makes it impossible to pick against them. The main factor why they might not be the best, even with the most experienced players of anyone in Proleague, would be due to the traveling that will occur for most of the team throughout the year. We all know EG and Liquid love to try and spread their wings to as many foreign tournaments as possible, so that could be a major problem when most of the Proleague games are on the weekend.

Still, let's look at their roster they can throw out if they're all in the same place: (T)TaeJa, (P)HerO, (Z)Stephano, (P)JYP, (Z)Jaedong, (T)PuMa, (T)Sea and then one of their strong foreigners like (Z)IdrA, (P)HuK, or (T)ThorZaIN if they like. In a league that is all about having a strong core, when this team is all together, they should dominate the other teams. KeSPA is still trying to catch up to the more experienced ESF players, so the Unholy Alliance will have an advantage especially in the early months of the season. By the end everything could be flipped upside down, but the player line-up is too star studded to bet against.

It's scary how good this team could dominate in the first few months of the league if even half of their main roster can stay in Korea. With Hero, Taeja, Sea, (Z)Zenio, JYP, Jaedong and Puma more than likely staying in Korea for the duration of the Proleague season except for foreign tournaments, you can expect those players to be the heart of the team with Stephano and Idra making cameo appearances every so often.

There is a lot that can go wrong with this newly formed team, but if things even go somewhat right, they will be in the finals come the end of the year. Prepare yourselves, Proleague, you just unleashed a monster into your tournament.


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Writers: Fionn.
Graphics: Hawaiianpig.
Editor: Waxangel.
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Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
December 06 2012 23:22 GMT
#2
I cannot wait to see how TL-EG fares in the league.
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WiseBagus
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada452 Posts
December 06 2012 23:23 GMT
#3
We need some Elephant Factor for those who did not watch Broodwar.
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InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
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Last Edited: 2012-12-06 23:24:50
December 06 2012 23:24 GMT
#4
Not too hyped about this PL to be perfectly honest, it's all about BW fandom and selling personality.
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DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
December 06 2012 23:26 GMT
#5
Great read!!!
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 06 2012 23:27 GMT
#6
So pumped. Like, SO PUMPED
Refer to my post.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 06 2012 23:29 GMT
#7
Nicely done, but Im not looking into these too much because we havent seen a whole lot of the Kespa players yet so who knows.
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TwiStEr
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany115 Posts
December 06 2012 23:30 GMT
#8
... but can we actually watch it in light of recent news
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 23:37:33
December 06 2012 23:30 GMT
#9
Time will tell which players can improve to catch up (since you need 5). And it would be great if some BW fans came along, but doubtful as the choices of esport titles increases. Now, with the news of likely no english broadcast (it is tomorrow, afterall) but a foreigner team, seems so odd and such a slap in the face that someone like myself simply isn't very interested anymore (as i didn't follow pro BW, so no real nostalgia).

Nice write-up as always and good luck to the the unholy alliance, represent foreigners well to KR....but i'm going to watch IPL.
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Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
December 06 2012 23:32 GMT
#10
Awesome! This should make things even MORE exciting o.o -> O.O
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
December 06 2012 23:35 GMT
#11
so unholy!
This alliance will bring even GOD down!
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CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
December 06 2012 23:37 GMT
#12
The Unholy Alliance got this easy.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
December 06 2012 23:41 GMT
#13
On December 07 2012 08:24 InoyouS2 wrote:
Not too hyped about this PL to be perfectly honest, it's all about BW fandom and selling personality.

Yeah BW fandom... okay :r

Anyways, like you guys said at the start of the article... it's pretty difficult to rank the teams right now, but it was a nice read. KT will show that they are not 7th place material...
leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
December 06 2012 23:42 GMT
#14
IDK... happy and sad at the same time because I really wish we could see TLO in The Proleague
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
December 06 2012 23:42 GMT
#15
Finally! Even better that it won't be soiled by mediocre english casters.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
December 06 2012 23:43 GMT
#16
I am so pumped for this! Even more so now that there's the Fantasy League.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
December 06 2012 23:43 GMT
#17
I thought bisu said, if he had forcefields in bw he would never lose, not sc2
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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
December 06 2012 23:44 GMT
#18
a SKT vs TL-EG finals would be the greatest thing ever.
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leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
December 06 2012 23:44 GMT
#19
Unholy Alliance EZ
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Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland244 Posts
December 06 2012 23:45 GMT
#20
completely different maps, 1 year duration, anything can happen! PUMPED
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 06 2012 23:45 GMT
#21
Any insight on who is selecting lineups for EG-TL? Do they have a designated coach/manager?
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 06 2012 23:45 GMT
#22
On December 07 2012 08:43 Shock710 wrote:
I thought bisu said, if he had forcefields in bw he would never lose, not sc2


Hm, this might be true, but he also made like 30 sentries during his first games in SC2, so it still works.
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leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
December 06 2012 23:46 GMT
#23
On December 07 2012 08:43 Shock710 wrote:
I thought bisu said, if he had forcefields in bw he would never lose, not sc2


Yes, I remember it just as you do...
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
December 06 2012 23:48 GMT
#24
need some more stephano
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 06 2012 23:48 GMT
#25
On December 07 2012 08:45 bkrow wrote:
Any insight on who is selecting lineups for EG-TL? Do they have a designated coach/manager?


They have a Korean coach.
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Felvo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States124 Posts
December 06 2012 23:49 GMT
#26
I'm really hoping that EG-TL does really well but the Kespa players have shown remarkable improvement in the past few months alone and undoubtedly will continue to improve. Hopefully EG-TL can reach the finals!
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 06 2012 23:50 GMT
#27
Damn, foreign teams ranked #1 in the biggest korean league in the world... would be amazing if it actually unfolded that way.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 06 2012 23:51 GMT
#28
On December 07 2012 08:43 Shock710 wrote:
I thought bisu said, if he had forcefields in bw he would never lose, not sc2

Yep, was some interview, but I don't remember where I could find it.
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Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
December 06 2012 23:54 GMT
#29
Some rounds will be BO7? I hope they make pvp and zvz interesting for 7 matches in a row...
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 06 2012 23:54 GMT
#30
i actually didnt realize that the ESF teams were excluded until i read this. honestly, to me, its like discussing the special olympics after the olympics is finished. i want to see the ESF teams compete as well. the only good thing about this is that foreign teams have a chance at winning the whole thing. oh, and we get to see all the kespa players, which will be amazing to see their progress.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
December 06 2012 23:56 GMT
#31
EG-Liquid will crash and burn. They may be a team of champions but they are not a championship team. KT Rolster will teach them this.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 06 2012 23:57 GMT
#32
That ranking was funny to say the least.

Also, T1 doesn't depend so much on Bisu this time around. With Sun and Soo being able to beat practically anyone, T1 even without Bisu is more deep and well-rounded this time around than a few recent BW seasons.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 06 2012 23:57 GMT
#33
Booooo. KT will have a slow start as always, and then DOMINATE.
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 06 2012 23:57 GMT
#34
Nice write up!!

EG-TL should do really well til HOTS comes out then who knows.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
December 06 2012 23:59 GMT
#35
So keen for for this!
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Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
December 07 2012 00:03 GMT
#36
Well, we all know how Fionn feels about T8 .

Jaehoon go!
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
December 07 2012 00:04 GMT
#37
Thanks, been waiting for this article Thanks for sharing
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Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
December 07 2012 00:06 GMT
#38
EG-TL will fail like that other dream team
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fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
December 07 2012 00:06 GMT
#39
Lol completely unhyped for this league. Don't know (or care) about any of the teams other than EG-TL. If they don't sort the no English commentary fiasco out, I couldn't force myself to follow this league. Hope they do.
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Habitus
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom120 Posts
December 07 2012 00:09 GMT
#40
One of the best things about this Proleague is the new maps, some of them seem like they could produce some interesting matches Now I just need to pick my Fantasy Proleague team :p
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
December 07 2012 00:09 GMT
#41
I'm surprised to see stx so far down the list. Bogus might be one of the best terran in the world, but I do agree they lack some depth. Great write up!
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
December 07 2012 00:09 GMT
#42
and the man with the afro, (P)ParalyzE, who hasn't had a big breakout yet, but who should do well just on the strength of his great hair.

I had to double take on reading this to make sure Wolf wasn't a writer lol.

Good rankings. I wish I read this before making my FPL lol. Here's to a fun season of SPL.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
December 07 2012 00:10 GMT
#43
wait, wait, hold up. is this community now part of the strongest team in the history of sc2?
can we wipe out every team in the world?
do i start to like eg for the first time since tasteless left? wait, wait, hold up...
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
LTY
Profile Joined November 2012
United States223 Posts
December 07 2012 00:11 GMT
#44
Until I read through number one, I was like hmm where is EG?
After I read the entire article, i was like "oh nvm."
Bisu better come back and take down EG-TL!!
Known as Miso or LTY
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
December 07 2012 00:12 GMT
#45
On December 07 2012 08:45 bkrow wrote:
Any insight on who is selecting lineups for EG-TL? Do they have a designated coach/manager?


EG very recently hired one and there's Hwanni acting as head coach presumably picking the lineups he's experienced at with Fnatic.

Think EG-TL are too highly rated, I don't think the foreigners except Stephano will contribute to anything at all.. STX and SKT1 on paper have a really strong core of players been doing well in the GSL so they're my top 2.
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
December 07 2012 00:13 GMT
#46
On December 07 2012 08:54 Bareleon wrote:
Some rounds will be BO7? I hope they make pvp and zvz interesting for 7 matches in a row...
It's a team league... each match is Bo1...
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
King_law1992
Profile Joined December 2011
United States47 Posts
December 07 2012 00:13 GMT
#47
Go Unholy Alliance
unix04
Profile Joined November 2011
United States89 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 00:18:36
December 07 2012 00:14 GMT
#48
EG-TL might have more experience under their belt, but korean broodwar vets are known for being crafty and resourceful. Also, there are more replays of EG-TL players floating on the net than the majority of kespa players. I think kespa not only has home court advantage, but also control the x-factor. In a high pressure tournament with many unknowns, EG-TL will have to dig down deep and stay true to their game amidst the chaos. If they win the mental game, they take the first season crown. Personally, I don't see that happening, even if they do have a handful of local firepower. EG-TL will finish top 4 and lose in playoffs. Just like the San Antonio Spurs

Sleeper pick: STX Soul
Unix's favorite to win: WOongjin Stars
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 07 2012 00:14 GMT
#49
TL-EG is gonna be 8-6tplace by the time this is all over, easily. Ppl said the same shit about T8, this is even worse because TL-EG won't even be half as commited as the rest
Writerptrk
rainfable
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States171 Posts
December 07 2012 00:14 GMT
#50
team8 is eighth :p sense made.

eg-tl lineup is scaaaaary good. i hope they do wellll~ <3
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Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
December 07 2012 00:17 GMT
#51
TL-EG might do well but I am rooting for Samsung Khan or KT <3
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
Noispaxen
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland150 Posts
December 07 2012 00:18 GMT
#52
I like how you seem to consider Stephano a korean in this power rank, lol
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howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
December 07 2012 00:19 GMT
#53
I'm curious as to what EG-TL will wear as a team jersey for this Proleague.
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
December 07 2012 00:20 GMT
#54
If Eg-TL losese to KT it would be so embarrasing...But seriosly- The new proleague maps are TERRIBLE!!!
Long live the Boss Toss!
Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 00:22:18
December 07 2012 00:21 GMT
#55
On December 07 2012 09:13 bduddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 08:54 Bareleon wrote:
Some rounds will be BO7? I hope they make pvp and zvz interesting for 7 matches in a row...
It's a team league... each match is Bo1...


Wrong.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague

Go down to format.
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
December 07 2012 00:22 GMT
#56
Unholy Alliance for the win! Mwahaha, no matter how far they drop in the rankings later on, I'll still root for them! Go EG-TL go!
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 07 2012 00:22 GMT
#57
On December 07 2012 09:12 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 08:45 bkrow wrote:
Any insight on who is selecting lineups for EG-TL? Do they have a designated coach/manager?


EG very recently hired one and there's Hwanni acting as head coach presumably picking the lineups he's experienced at with Fnatic.

Think EG-TL are too highly rated, I don't think the foreigners except Stephano will contribute to anything at all.. STX and SKT1 on paper have a really strong core of players been doing well in the GSL so they're my top 2.

Seeing how IdrA recently 2-0'd RorO, it seems silly to say that players like him, Thorzain and DeMuslim won't contribute.

I still wouldn't put the odds in favour of them vs Aces, but I would not be shocked to see them crush the bottom line players.
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Tiegrr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States607 Posts
December 07 2012 00:25 GMT
#58
TL-EG for the championship!
PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
December 07 2012 00:27 GMT
#59
UNHOLY ALLIANCE! hypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehype...


...then I scroll to the bottom

WRITERS: FIONN


Uh oh.
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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
December 07 2012 00:28 GMT
#60
I like the optimism and definitely sounds arguments, but I don't see EG/TL breaking past 3rd. I really hope they prove me wrong but I just find it hard to put them over certain kespa teams with just GOBS more of experience (you can argue it doesn't matter, or eg/tl has more experience at certain things).

ANyways gg gl!
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 00:38:46
December 07 2012 00:38 GMT
#61
I agree that TL-EG has a very good chance. Good luck!
have we found out about jerseys, yet?
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EmNGiantNome
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States126 Posts
December 07 2012 00:40 GMT
#62
RELEASE THE GRACKEN!
Wampaibist
Profile Joined July 2010
United States478 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 00:43:44
December 07 2012 00:43 GMT
#63
How cool would it be if tl-eg won the proleague??? its like a dream that is completely unattainable coming true. Even for the regular forum posters here its cereal


btw can we have EG-TL shirts? PLZ
Jacopana
Profile Joined September 2009
El Salvador210 Posts
December 07 2012 00:46 GMT
#64
Unholly Alliance FTW!! I hope for khan vs kt, vs skt (semis) vs EG-TL (Finals) for the playoffs ^_^

GL HF!!
KookyMonster
Profile Joined January 2012
United States311 Posts
December 07 2012 00:48 GMT
#65
Unholy Alliance should dominate, besides close matches against SKT.
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GarethGore
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom59 Posts
December 07 2012 00:51 GMT
#66
They really should win it would redeem EG from doing badly in nearly all team leagues in foreign events
AndySCWilson
Profile Joined September 2010
43 Posts
December 07 2012 00:52 GMT
#67
Honestly looking at these rosters I think eg-tl is going to roll this entire league.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13973 Posts
December 07 2012 00:53 GMT
#68
The unholy alliance is soooo damn awesome :D
Them vs SKT in the finalz calling it right now!
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DeadByDawn
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom476 Posts
December 07 2012 00:55 GMT
#69
One of the great things about this PL season, is the chance to see the BW players adapt and improve as the season evolves. Some unlikely heroes will arise and maybe some gods slain.

Now, what about a EG-TL shirt?
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
December 07 2012 00:56 GMT
#70
Excited to see how proleague goes.
LightAngels
Profile Joined April 2010
United States299 Posts
December 07 2012 01:00 GMT
#71
Cmon Bisu, pull yourself together.
SuperEight
Profile Joined December 2011
United States333 Posts
December 07 2012 01:03 GMT
#72
Good luck to TL-EG! Straight to the finals.
To rest is to rust; to be active is to achieve.
SmackDiablo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States49 Posts
December 07 2012 01:03 GMT
#73
I am so fucking amped for this! I think EG-TL is going to kill it in the beginning for sure! But like everyone else is saying anything is possible....Since its so long the KeSPA players might be able to catch up towards the end of the season!
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
December 07 2012 01:05 GMT
#74
Damn, I can't believe The Unholy Alliance is actually ranked NR1.

I guess it is to be expected in a way, here we have a quantifiable and well known team, against a largely unknown and untested value.
The lineup of The Unholy Alliance is top notch, Taeja, HerO and Stephano are title contenders, Puma and JYP are tried and tested veterans, Jaedong and Sea have potential, Thorzain, IdrA and HuK where former title contenders, they still are very good foreign players and with the training in Korea they could maybe reach new heights.

Zenio feels like he has slumped for a long time, hopefully he does better and hopefully he goes to the team house and trains, he left oGs because he didn't feel comfortable playing in a team house, I don't see him improving if he doesn't join in the team practice at the house.

Overall, the lineup is more solid then an Battlecruiser's Hull and pack's as much punch as a Yamato cannon.

However I can't shake the feel that the power ranking might be totally wrong and that, secretly the KesPA teams have toiled away and have basically evaporated the lines between them and the Code S Koreans.

It might be that, on the opening day, The Unholy Alliance will have one big, nasty surprise in store for them.

I have to agree with the PR so far because, well the Unholy Alliance is a much better known variable then the other teams and their players at this moment, but I still can't shake the feeling that it could be totally wrong and in reality the UH might be more close the middle of the rankings.

Time will tell, and fortunately we don't have long to wait.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 07 2012 01:11 GMT
#75
I'm sorry, but putting TL-EG at top of proleague rankings seems, well, like a joke. I know its SC2, but trolololololol.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
MIKster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany333 Posts
December 07 2012 01:13 GMT
#76
I just hope there will be an English cast, aside from that: HYPED AS ****!
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OrangeNinja21
Profile Joined November 2010
United States84 Posts
December 07 2012 01:15 GMT
#77
I'm super excited! This will be the first proleague I'm going to watch from beginning to end
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Skytt
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland333 Posts
December 07 2012 01:16 GMT
#78
I got half way down the ranks and thought 'where the fuck is EGTL' and scrolled down to the bottom.

Kespa paying fionn to double curse EGTL lol
Atrbyg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States513 Posts
December 07 2012 01:19 GMT
#79
Let's go Unholy Alliance!
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
December 07 2012 01:32 GMT
#80
Ah shit I choose KT too...they'll prove themselves though!
chukolna
Profile Joined February 2010
78 Posts
December 07 2012 01:34 GMT
#81
if the "unholy alliance" is in top 3 this season ( which will be the easiest for them to actually do something ) i will be surprised
Grow up Raj, there's no place for truth on the Internet.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 07 2012 01:35 GMT
#82
Woot, Woongjin Stars to rule the season!
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2BearqLoza
Profile Joined December 2007
134 Posts
December 07 2012 01:36 GMT
#83
On December 07 2012 08:50 Pokebunny wrote:
Damn, foreign teams ranked #1 in the biggest korean league in the world... would be amazing if it actually unfolded that way.


Except that "foreign team" will not use foreign player all that much.
And of course "biggest korean league in the world" minus (almost) all the best koreans.
CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
December 07 2012 01:43 GMT
#84
Man...this is exciting! cant wait to watch!
Yeah i've got your zerg riiiight here! *gulps beer*
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 01:44:37
December 07 2012 01:43 GMT
#85
Their korean line-up is by far strong enough to take down any team, especially in all-kill rounds, Stephano is just icing on the cake (and one of the three best players in the team), Jaedong and Sea also could become really good and they're showing potential I think.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
December 07 2012 01:50 GMT
#86
On December 07 2012 10:36 2BearqLoza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 08:50 Pokebunny wrote:
Damn, foreign teams ranked #1 in the biggest korean league in the world... would be amazing if it actually unfolded that way.


Except that "foreign team" will not use foreign player all that much.
And of course "biggest korean league in the world" minus (almost) all the best koreans.

Minus a lot of the top Koreans, but they do have the best Protoss and the best Terran and one of the best Zergs in Stephano.

Super-pumped for this, but to be honest I'll only watch it if there's an English stream (live for preference, I'm in Australia so time-zone is good for me). I've been spoiled by GSL, so quality english commentary is pretty much a must.

Worst-case scenario I'd be pretty happy if they just sent all the replays to somebody like Husky (although better would be getting Apollo + somebody to cast them). I'd prefer delayed commentary to bad commentary.
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
December 07 2012 01:56 GMT
#87
Go SK Telecom T1!!! Fighting!
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
CloudMage
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada221 Posts
December 07 2012 01:57 GMT
#88
The rest of the KT team shouldn't effect the rank since Flash will just all-kill every other team ;P
HuK <3 WhiteRa <3 Grubby <3 TLO <3 Day[9] <3
Aando
Profile Joined August 2011
1304 Posts
December 07 2012 02:01 GMT
#89
Will they change game in-between the rounds or will they play wol during the whole league? I mean, it will probably hard to get it hyped up if it's wol games 3 months after hots was released.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
December 07 2012 02:03 GMT
#90
On December 07 2012 10:34 chukolna wrote:
if the "unholy alliance" is in top 3 this season ( which will be the easiest for them to actually do something ) i will be surprised


On paper they're legit. So it all depends on if they can get it together when it's crunch time.

Taeja should be the best Terran in Proleague. Stephano is a question mark, but the few times he's played in Gom events he's more than held his own (even if you think they were screwing around a bit last wknd he still made them earn the win; which is more than anyone else on the World Team can say).

I think Hero and JYP are above average as far as Proleague Protosses are concerned too (Hero being a contender for 2nd best behind Rain).

So like the power ranking says; a strong core.... on paper.

Coaching could trip them up; do we even know who it's going to be? Preparation will be another big hurdle for them, since the Proleague map pool is very different from GSL / MLG / IPL / Ladder with half the map being Kespa maps.

Especially with travel they may just end up falling behind when it comes to playing on those maps. But again that'll depend no the quality of their coaching (and practice regime too).

Also, they still have the problem eSF players had at the WCG prelims - lots of information available for opponents; little information about opponents.
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
December 07 2012 02:08 GMT
#91
On December 07 2012 10:57 CloudMage wrote:
The rest of the KT team shouldn't effect the rank since Flash will just all-kill every other team ;P

...this round is NOT all-kill format.
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G.K.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States105 Posts
December 07 2012 02:10 GMT
#92
STX should be in top 4 imo. They have so many young progamers with potential xD I can easily see STX doing better than WJS ( and maybe Samsung Khan)
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 07 2012 02:10 GMT
#93
On December 07 2012 10:50 althaz wrote:
Minus a lot of the top Koreans, but they do have the best Protoss and the best Terran
They have MC and Mvp? (j/k)
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
GeneralSnoop
Profile Joined February 2011
United States142 Posts
December 07 2012 02:10 GMT
#94
On December 07 2012 10:57 CloudMage wrote:
The rest of the KT team shouldn't effect the rank since Flash will just all-kill every other team ;P


Proleague isn't a winners league format like GSTL, so one player can only do so much. I like proleague style better though i think, especially for fantasy (not the SKT terran). The fantasy league for GSTL was to dependant on getting a couple super good players and the other didn't really matter as much. This format gets rid of the proverbial "I have DongRaeGu, and therefore I am better than you since you don't have DongRaeGu".
"I could probably live in trees" - LiquidJinro
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
December 07 2012 02:19 GMT
#95
Golden Wings or Chemical Brotherhood to win.
Unholy Alliance to runner-ups.
Sponsorless Squad to make it to playoffs and find sponsor.
Everything is a remix.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
December 07 2012 02:21 GMT
#96
Bisu please retire and go dominate SSL. BW was made for you and your unbelievable talent. Always rooting for you though
Jaedong.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
December 07 2012 02:25 GMT
#97
Also hoping Baby gets traded to a better team. The kid deserves it. Hes SO good.
Jaedong.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
December 07 2012 02:28 GMT
#98
NERD CHILSSSSSSSSSSSS WITH UNHOLY ALIANCE IN FIRST OMFG
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
December 07 2012 02:35 GMT
#99
PL is going to be vicious, I am looking forward to a bit more KeSPA face time for players. I am woefully ill equipped to do some of this fantasy stuff. I am glad to see the unholy alliance in number one, I think that depth will be the biggest issue facing the other PL teams.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
December 07 2012 02:36 GMT
#100
Nooo the Unholy Alliance is now CURSED by Fionn T-T And he even attempt to reverse CURSE KT too (He's a KT fan).
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
December 07 2012 02:40 GMT
#101
Ryu Won, the coach that helped MMA win two GSL titles


?
Zenniv
Profile Joined September 2011
United States545 Posts
December 07 2012 02:43 GMT
#102
WOW CJ no. 6 seriously? Also Fionn has some serious hate for the hybrid format lol... it certainly was kind of stupid to force players to practice two games, but it really pretty fun to watch from a spectator view point. herO, effort and bbyong have come a long way since the last proleague, CJ should be ranked 4th at the very least.

Also SK Telecom T1 ranked 2nd also does not make sense... Rain is definitely THE best KeSPA pro atm, but the rest have yet to prove themselves (super hyped for the new Fantasy under Boxer's personal training tho :D)
kaoxx
Profile Joined May 2011
86 Posts
December 07 2012 02:44 GMT
#103

Still, let's look at their roster they can throw out if they're all in the same place: (T)TaeJa, (P)HerO, (Z)Stephano, (P)JYP, (Z)Jaedong, (T)PuMa, (T)Sea and then one of their strong foreigners like (Z)IdrA, (P)HuK, or (T)ThorZaIN if they like.


I agree, Stephano is basically Korean.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 02:48:22
December 07 2012 02:46 GMT
#104
On December 07 2012 11:10 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 10:50 althaz wrote:
Minus a lot of the top Koreans, but they do have the best Protoss and the best Terran
They have MC and Mvp? (j/k)

the Mvp part is not jk
On December 07 2012 11:40 Gatesleeper wrote:
Show nested quote +
Ryu Won, the coach that helped MMA win two GSL titles


?

Ryu Won was MMA's coach on Slayers
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MarkCJ
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 02:54:06
December 07 2012 02:54 GMT
#105
woooo cant wait for this!
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fujundevil
Profile Joined December 2011
China16 Posts
December 07 2012 03:00 GMT
#106
On December 07 2012 08:50 Pokebunny wrote:
Damn, foreign teams ranked #1 in the biggest korean league in the world... would be amazing if it actually unfolded that way.

But the players were not the best in SPL....
you know, now it's the era of ESF
Love makes man grow up or sink down.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 07 2012 03:01 GMT
#107
On December 07 2012 11:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 11:10 figq wrote:
On December 07 2012 10:50 althaz wrote:
Minus a lot of the top Koreans, but they do have the best Protoss and the best Terran
They have MC and Mvp? (j/k)

the Mvp part is not jk
mc so underrated
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 07 2012 03:03 GMT
#108
On December 07 2012 12:01 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 11:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 07 2012 11:10 figq wrote:
On December 07 2012 10:50 althaz wrote:
Minus a lot of the top Koreans, but they do have the best Protoss and the best Terran
They have MC and Mvp? (j/k)

the Mvp part is not jk
mc so underrated
http://sc2earnings.com/

Yes he's won the most money but he hasnt been playing like the best protoss. Mvp is the only terran to make a GSL finals this year, did it twice, won 1, and is rank 1 GSL points. Several protoss are vying for the title of best toss atm
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 07 2012 03:12 GMT
#109
KT at 7th and SKT at 2nd, sounds like a 2010 proleague come back boys, KT do your thing.
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althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
December 07 2012 03:15 GMT
#110
Bogus is the best Terran going around right now (not ever, that would be MVP for WoL, Flash for Broodwar and Fantasy for HotS ) and Rain is the best Protoss.
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 03:17:12
December 07 2012 03:16 GMT
#111
As an oldtimer of SC:BW it really hurt watching the last SC:BW Proleague tournament, and with that said the new season looks like it will be freaking epic and I'm really looking forward to it!
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Sacrilege
Profile Joined December 2011
United States199 Posts
December 07 2012 03:24 GMT
#112
Extremely well done write up. Gotta love seeing EGTL ranked number one! ^^
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 07 2012 03:25 GMT
#113
I would put STX at number one. Bogus/Trap/Hyvaa/Last is better than Rain/Fantasy/soO/??? or Stephano/Taeja/HerO/Jaedong/Jetlag
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 07 2012 03:34 GMT
#114
EGTL hwaiting! Hopefully this will work even with the heavy hitters at NASL.
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MiniTuk
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden9 Posts
December 07 2012 03:39 GMT
#115
EG-TL is one of those things that never normally happen but now that it has it gonna crush face. Such an epic story of two rivals teaming up to take on the all-powerful koreans!
''To the bank'' -Stephano
nerium
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Philippines512 Posts
December 07 2012 03:43 GMT
#116
My bet is on STX or Woongjin to dominate this PL season
Lulz is a corrupted version of LOL
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
December 07 2012 03:49 GMT
#117
On December 07 2012 10:34 chukolna wrote:
if the "unholy alliance" is in top 3 this season ( which will be the easiest for them to actually do something ) i will be surprised


I agree, I'd love nothing more for EG-TL to take it all, but these guys are real pros.
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
December 07 2012 03:54 GMT
#118
Really interested to see how the teams have improved now that we've passed the hybrid league. I just hope Bisu can step it up.
GhostTK
Profile Joined April 2011
United States26 Posts
December 07 2012 03:55 GMT
#119
EG-TL*
Do or Die, Do Until I Die
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44184 Posts
December 07 2012 03:55 GMT
#120
I hope EG-TL can actually perform as well as they should, considering they have the SC2 experience under their belt. As time goes on, the Kespa teams will catch up to them...

I was really impressed that EG-TL was ranked #1 and felt that therefore maybe they actually could win it all, but then I noticed that Fionn wrote it, which means the Unholy Alliance is cursed -.-' EG-TL Curse.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
December 07 2012 04:08 GMT
#121
Yeah, I really think EG-TL is going to dominate this season. I mean, they have just have years of experience over the KeSPA teams and not to mention some of the strongest SC2 players of all time, battle-proven and ready to go.

But I really hope Bisu gets his shit together and goes on to start raping again.
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
December 07 2012 04:09 GMT
#122
Nice writeup!

Can't wait to see JD tearing up Proleague again
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Velociraptor95
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States50 Posts
December 07 2012 04:24 GMT
#123
Anyone know where we can watch the pro league? I'm a little confused
"If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea..." - Antoine de Saint Exupery
Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
December 07 2012 04:48 GMT
#124
The Unholy Alliance is the perfect name for the team lol
"That's not your main base Stardust.....Stardust.....that's not your main" Sayle
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
December 07 2012 05:13 GMT
#125
I still feel bad for Team 8. They'll get annihilated horribly =/ How are they going to get a sponsor?

EG-TL might be good on paper but there's so many unknowns that go into being a new team in a new league with half the guys flying over to stay in Korea for a bit, that I think this is pretty premature. I also believe that the Kespa teams are going to improve faster than EG-TL will.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10004 Posts
December 07 2012 05:40 GMT
#126
stx and woojing are going to own it up this season
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 07 2012 05:44 GMT
#127
SKT/Woojing and STX all look strong. The unholy alliance better start of strong they will need it for later on.
Specialy SKT to me seems to have the potential yet again to dominate ProLeague.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19229 Posts
December 07 2012 05:49 GMT
#128
People far underestimating Team 8. I hate seeing SKT hyped so high, would like if there was more suprise to how well they do. Putting KT so low is a mistake too. TBH really confused by these ranking. EG-TL hasn't had any time to mold as a team like the rest of PL.

It's gotta be this:

T8
STX
Stars
EG-TL
KT
SKT
Khan
CJ
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wwJd)El_Mojjo
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden173 Posts
December 07 2012 05:52 GMT
#129
Hmm, why are there almost no code s-players in pl? Are they not allowed to participate or...?
Am I missing something here? oO
Gc.El_Mojjo
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 07 2012 06:07 GMT
#130
Rating TL and EG is a huge mistake Fionn lol.

You just commented on their scheduling and as a result I expect mediocre, middle of the pack results from them.

That didn't stop me from picking mostly EG players but just like with Team 8 a few seasons I go I expect to finish near the bottom. BD
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
December 07 2012 06:47 GMT
#131
The Stars are shine this season. oh yeah baby how long I've been waiting for this. Pretty sure the zergline is going to be unstoppable (well, hopefully even fokins) and they are gonna be backed up with sOs and the almighty new Nalra, Flying. And then let's not forget about Bisang and Light. I've got nerdchills.
The heart's eternal vow
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
December 07 2012 06:48 GMT
#132
On December 07 2012 08:22 Gary Oak wrote:
I cannot wait to see how TL-EG fares in the league.


jaeh but how only korean livecast it seems
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Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
December 07 2012 07:28 GMT
#133
Is the Fionn Curse strong enough to bring down the Unholy Alliance?

LET'S GO PROLEAGUE.

Starts on my birthday, tomorrow, so excited!
I love crazymoving
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
December 07 2012 07:32 GMT
#134
I believe in Bisu!
John 15:13
umelbumel
Profile Joined January 2011
2026 Posts
December 07 2012 07:41 GMT
#135
I'm so pumped for this!
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
December 07 2012 07:43 GMT
#136
Ahhhhh I can't wait to see how this plays out.
Jaedong <3
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 07 2012 08:10 GMT
#137
Lol.

Watch KT blast through the unholy alliance, haters..

I honestly doubt The Unholy Alliance will do well at all, all star teams who look stacked on paper usually crumble, SKT is as much as I hate it, easily the strongest team of the proleague.
In the woods, there lurks..
Boiler Bandsman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States391 Posts
December 07 2012 08:12 GMT
#138
On December 07 2012 14:52 wwJd)El_Mojjo wrote:
Hmm, why are there almost no code s-players in pl? Are they not allowed to participate or...?
Am I missing something here? oO


Qualifiers are just ridiculously hard. They're starting to filter in to Code A and S, but every one has to knock out a regular to get there, and they're still learning the game.
A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
LightAngels
Profile Joined April 2010
United States299 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 08:16:27
December 07 2012 08:16 GMT
#139
On December 07 2012 17:12 Boiler Bandsman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 14:52 wwJd)El_Mojjo wrote:
Hmm, why are there almost no code s-players in pl? Are they not allowed to participate or...?
Am I missing something here? oO


Qualifiers are just ridiculously hard. They're starting to filter in to Code A and S, but every one has to knock out a regular to get there, and they're still learning the game.


I think u get his question up-side down
trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
December 07 2012 08:28 GMT
#140
meh, many old bw players. not a lot of players I'd like to see
~
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
December 07 2012 08:28 GMT
#141
On December 07 2012 08:23 WiseBagus wrote:
We need some Elephant Factor for those who did not watch Broodwar.


I didn´t watch BW, so I never understood this joke. Please, someone enlighten me.
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Damnight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany222 Posts
December 07 2012 08:29 GMT
#142
Dammit I wanted Hero and jaedong TT
Why to biost on this, it´s going to ruin my score :D
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
December 07 2012 08:49 GMT
#143
On December 07 2012 09:21 Bareleon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:13 bduddy wrote:
On December 07 2012 08:54 Bareleon wrote:
Some rounds will be BO7? I hope they make pvp and zvz interesting for 7 matches in a row...

It's a team league... each match is Bo1...


Wrong.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague

Go down to format.


Lol, bad at reading? It says Bo7 proleague format, i.e. seven Bo1s.

Unless you think all-kill matches always are seven PvPs in a row, your comment could not make any less sense.
maru G5L pls
Gimmeurladderpoints
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany372 Posts
December 07 2012 08:56 GMT
#144
So stoked.
~Ryung~Genius~Bomber~Nestea~Liquid_Jinro~Sage~San~jjakji~Boxer~Fantasy~Polt~
EzekyleAbaddon
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany8 Posts
December 07 2012 09:14 GMT
#145
Whoever is able to ALLKILL EG-TL will be a legend :D
"Unbent, untamed, unbroken."
bilow
Profile Joined December 2009
Latvia25 Posts
December 07 2012 09:18 GMT
#146
If actual foreigners would be playing for Unholy Alliance with good English cast, I could see myself tuning in. But ESF pros beating Kespa pros with Korean commentary... that's some old school brood war shit, which I actually enjoyed at the time. I just don't think it's the case anymore with e-sports coming this far.
Joestar
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden87 Posts
December 07 2012 09:18 GMT
#147
Will be cheering for KT, I had no idea that they were such underdogs though.
"It's a bizarre SC2 adventure"
iaminfiniteOSL
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
63 Posts
December 07 2012 09:23 GMT
#148
" Writers: Fionn" Oh how did I know that ... oh yea... "scary how good this team could dominate in the first few months of the league if even half of their main roster can stay in Korea. With Hero, Taeja, Sea, Zenio, JYP, Jaedong and Puma more than likely staying in Korea for..." Oh but HuK ? NOPE, no mention. :D H8'tR Fionn.
HuK, Crank, ViOlet, Jaedong...
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5536 Posts
December 07 2012 09:27 GMT
#149
On December 07 2012 18:14 EzekyleAbaddon wrote:
Whoever is able to ALLKILL EG-TL will be a legend :D


This is ProLeague format.
EonuS
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovenia186 Posts
December 07 2012 09:28 GMT
#150
Bisu never proclaimed that it would be impossible for protoss to lose in sc2 since they have forcefields, he stated that if forcefields existed in broodwar he would never lose a game
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
December 07 2012 10:13 GMT
#151
On December 07 2012 18:28 EonuS wrote:
Bisu never proclaimed that it would be impossible for protoss to lose in sc2 since they have forcefields, he stated that if forcefields existed in broodwar he would never lose a game


bu he sure made stupid amount of sentries in one of his game lol.
Teodice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden641 Posts
December 07 2012 10:14 GMT
#152
Sad to say but appears to me with JD going to EG-TL this will be a very boring season. Might tune in
You will still be here tomorrow, but your dreams may not
willfeeling
Profile Joined August 2012
China97 Posts
December 07 2012 10:24 GMT
#153
expectance
b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
December 07 2012 10:29 GMT
#154
JD+Normal humans vs elephants
Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
December 07 2012 10:32 GMT
#155
This whole elephant in the room shit...

soooo funny..

now look at it, the "poor lowely" foreigners + esf players are now the scaiest fuckers in proleague. The elephants should fear them.

There was a real threat that kespa players would walk in and take over sc2 and return the foreign scene back to the corner like it sat in during BW. Now, we have a really strong team that could not only stand up for itself, but dominate.

This is some of the most exciting times for starcraft. I feel bad for anyone that stopped watching sc2.... its just begun.
bring back weapon of choice for hots!
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
December 07 2012 10:39 GMT
#156
The map pool gave me cancer...Arkanoid,Bifrost,Planet S what a joke :r
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 10:47:13
December 07 2012 10:44 GMT
#157
I had EG-TL in first place too, their core is super amazingly strong. Makes me remember just how fucking hard GSTL is, where even this unholy alliance might be overshadowed by teams like LG.IM and Startale.

My personal storyline? The elephants have tried to conquer during WCS Korea and HerO ripped them all to shreds. Now they let him step into their territory. How will it end?!?!?
The only player in the entire league who might be favored against him is Rain.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 07 2012 10:52 GMT
#158
I find it kinda weird that there is a foreing proteam in this tournament. I mean, a lot of the BW pros still suffer from mediocre games in SC2, while the TL-EG players have played the game for a much longer time. I wouldn't be surprised to see them doingr eally well.

I'll still be cheering on for KT!
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
December 07 2012 10:55 GMT
#159
On another note, WHAT in all the fucks are these maps?!
I just took a look at the new ones... they don't make sense WHATSOEVER. They just... completely go against SC2 gameplay. WTF. One of them doesn't have an entrance to your base except for destructible rocks? DB did you design that shit yourself?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
December 07 2012 10:57 GMT
#160
Maybe I'll actually watch PL this season with Liquid players playing
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
Hyge
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland138 Posts
December 07 2012 10:59 GMT
#161
im so excited for this! Hope that proleague will success in kr and sc2 gets more viewers
I play 1v1 SC2 because I've heard there are people who are currently better than I - and that pisses me off.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 11:05:39
December 07 2012 11:00 GMT
#162
Take a look at the maps people, your brain will explode. You have NEVER seen stuff like that. I have no words for this.

WHO MADE THESE? What in every fuck where they thinking? Take three bases on Arkanoid without your opponent having a way into your base? Like... WHAT
The other maps are no better either. Prepare to forget everything you ever thought you knew about the game.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ineversmile
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States583 Posts
December 07 2012 11:04 GMT
#163
This article is propaganda. There's just no way that the EG-Liquid team should be ranked that high. They're middle-of-the-pack.
Nostradamus.146@AM, Nostradamus.398@KR, Nostradamus.922@EU http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/ins
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
December 07 2012 11:14 GMT
#164
Does anyone know if these games will be played on the latest version of WoL?

So no seeker upgrade, infestor range to 8, and 70 egg health? Rather useless wrist-slap compared to the proper changes in HotS beta, but I want Flash to get everything he can.
fr0d0b0ls0n
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain51 Posts
December 07 2012 11:24 GMT
#165
On December 07 2012 20:14 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Does anyone know if these games will be played on the latest version of WoL?

So no seeker upgrade, infestor range to 8, and 70 egg health? Rather useless wrist-slap compared to the proper changes in HotS beta, but I want Flash to get everything he can.


You can't really play an older version, so...
I should warn you, getting what you want and being happy are two quite different things.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 07 2012 11:47 GMT
#166
On December 07 2012 20:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Take a look at the maps people, your brain will explode. You have NEVER seen stuff like that. I have no words for this.

WHO MADE THESE? What in every fuck where they thinking? Take three bases on Arkanoid without your opponent having a way into your base? Like... WHAT
The other maps are no better either. Prepare to forget everything you ever thought you knew about the game.


I will any of these maps over ever seeing Daybreak again.
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Theteamwebb
Profile Joined December 2012
United States13 Posts
December 07 2012 12:50 GMT
#167
The Unholy Alliance FIGHTING!
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 13:05:00
December 07 2012 13:01 GMT
#168
I like how Stephano ended up being in the list with Koreans and then you have foreigners (And Zenio is just mentionned at the head).

On December 07 2012 20:04 ineversmile wrote:
This article is propaganda. There's just no way that the EG-Liquid team should be ranked that high. They're middle-of-the-pack.


They play the game for a long time now. They show more results than the KespA players. I'm all for KT to win but... Yeah they are the strongest.

But SKT is scary. Just because of the new map and Boxer. Boxer was always the guy that studied the map 100% and found glitches, scary sport or stuff like that (remember that marine behind the mineral line after landed a barracks in the main of... damnit.. A protoss player that i forgot the name).

With the new map not really balanced (like they always have been in PL) i feal that SKT will have another edge.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 07 2012 13:05 GMT
#169
I got STX as my sleeper team and Dear as my sleeper player. That being said, I don't think they will take down SKT in this upcoming match but I think they can do quite well otherwise.
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lovegg
Profile Joined September 2010
47 Posts
December 07 2012 13:08 GMT
#170
USA USA USA
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
December 07 2012 13:27 GMT
#171
So are they switching over to Hots in the middle of their season?
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 07 2012 13:34 GMT
#172
I don't know but I think STX will do really great this season.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
December 07 2012 13:43 GMT
#173
On December 07 2012 20:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Take a look at the maps people, your brain will explode. You have NEVER seen stuff like that. I have no words for this.

WHO MADE THESE? What in every fuck where they thinking? Take three bases on Arkanoid without your opponent having a way into your base? Like... WHAT
The other maps are no better either. Prepare to forget everything you ever thought you knew about the game.

Terran just two raxes every game. no way to scout it. (exept TaeJa, he will build exclusivly CC for the first ten minutes of the game)
Then float you barracks over the small cliff to your opponent and everything is fine. Only building bunkers will be hard to pull off...
Or will will be 20 minutes no rush...
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 07 2012 14:10 GMT
#174
On December 07 2012 20:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Take a look at the maps people, your brain will explode. You have NEVER seen stuff like that. I have no words for this.

WHO MADE THESE? What in every fuck where they thinking? Take three bases on Arkanoid without your opponent having a way into your base? Like... WHAT
The other maps are no better either. Prepare to forget everything you ever thought you knew about the game.


They were thinking one thing for sure : adapt BW maps.
They may have thought one more thing : bring some diversity.

And your comment on Arkanoid is kinda weird... Does Daybreak ring any bells ?

Finally, I'm fully prepared to forget everythiin I thought I ever knew about the game. It shows it's refreshing and breaking a metagame which is in place for some time now. Which is imo a good thing.

Then, I'll tend to say that pitchforks should wait for some games being played on it before actually criticize. I know you can theorycraft with the maps' dispositions, but if I learned one thing on the internet these last years, it's that 99% of theorycrafting is just plain bs (it's still my and only my opinion. I'm not pretending it's universally true).
LiquipediaWanderer
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
December 07 2012 14:14 GMT
#175
I think you just massively jinxed TL/EG.
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
December 07 2012 14:17 GMT
#176
GO LIQUID-EG!
RyuuZer0
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia36 Posts
December 07 2012 14:18 GMT
#177
>EG-TL #1
>WRITERS: FIONN

Did I hear someone say "cursed"?
cchily13
Profile Joined May 2012
70 Posts
December 07 2012 14:20 GMT
#178
This is gonna be great I feel like the The Unholy Alliance could easily dominate, but there is possibility for teams like SK T1 to really shine through. I'm also looking forward to some more unknown players really breaking out with SC2 like Bogus.
ROOT is reborn!!
JKM
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 14:34:15
December 07 2012 14:33 GMT
#179
Looking very much forward to this! Will be very interesting to see how the unholy alliance performs, but I think they will need Taeja back top-top shape, to again become unstoppable.

On another note, can anyone say approximately how long will the opening ceremony / pre-show be before games start? I'm sort of tight on time, so I'd like to time my day so I can catch some games without watching some pre-show thingie. TY!
1338, one upping 1337
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 07 2012 14:34 GMT
#180
On December 07 2012 23:18 RyuuZer0 wrote:
>EG-TL #1
>WRITERS: FIONN

Did I hear someone say "cursed"?


I think the mega-super-over hype about EG-TL was kind of enough already, without needing Fionn to add his Voodoo magic.
LiquipediaWanderer
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 07 2012 14:34 GMT
#181
On December 07 2012 23:33 JKM wrote:
Looking very much forward to this! Will be very interesting to see how the unholy alliance performs, but I think they will need Taeja back top-top shape, to again become unstoppable.

On another note, can anyone say approximately how long will the opening ceremony / pre-show be before games start? I'm sort of tight on time, so I'd like to time my day so I can catch some games without watching some pre-show thingie. TY!


Maybe 5-10 minutes after the start of the broadcast, the first game will begin.
JKM
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark419 Posts
December 07 2012 14:51 GMT
#182
On December 07 2012 23:34 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 23:33 JKM wrote:
Looking very much forward to this! Will be very interesting to see how the unholy alliance performs, but I think they will need Taeja back top-top shape, to again become unstoppable.

On another note, can anyone say approximately how long will the opening ceremony / pre-show be before games start? I'm sort of tight on time, so I'd like to time my day so I can catch some games without watching some pre-show thingie. TY!


Maybe 5-10 minutes after the start of the broadcast, the first game will begin.


Thank you! Lovely they're so quick about it, long pregame shows tend to be tedious and boring (unless they're ceremonies including wacky players ).
1338, one upping 1337
JayVeeDee
Profile Joined June 2012
Faroe Islands25 Posts
December 07 2012 15:14 GMT
#183
I hope Thorzain will be one of the ones that will play instead of HuK and Idra.. -.- But anyway I like this "unholy Alliance" :D Its going to be epic, especially when EG has JD and stephano(second JD), OMG :D + Taeja and herO. Epic.
DRG, Marineking & Stephano all the way :D!
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
December 07 2012 15:19 GMT
#184
I'd be surprised if EG-TL actually wins it like predicted in this article. Time will tell.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
December 07 2012 15:20 GMT
#185
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
December 07 2012 15:28 GMT
#186
Well done write-up As much of a primer as could be hoped for given how hazey our experience is with even the kespa players we have gotten to see so far, let alone the ones that we haven't.

I concur with EG-TL being the favorite, though I hadn't thought of the travel concerns. Still, it's theirs to lose.
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jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
December 07 2012 15:31 GMT
#187
EG Luquid gogogo!
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 15:39:53
December 07 2012 15:38 GMT
#188
Brood war fans
/think tournaments are dumb because there are no elephants
/get excited about a tournament with few of the best koreans in it.

Was surprised to see Unholy Alliance at No.1, but really on paper they've got the best stats. The BW stars are pretty unproven at this stage, and those teams with pros who have shown some promise (Flash, Rain) are deservedly rated higher. But there's many more years of cumulative experience in the UH team, and top players like Taeja, Stephano and HerO should see the team through to a few months of wins.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
December 07 2012 16:08 GMT
#189
On December 07 2012 23:10 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 20:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Take a look at the maps people, your brain will explode. You have NEVER seen stuff like that. I have no words for this.

WHO MADE THESE? What in every fuck where they thinking? Take three bases on Arkanoid without your opponent having a way into your base? Like... WHAT
The other maps are no better either. Prepare to forget everything you ever thought you knew about the game.


They were thinking one thing for sure : adapt BW maps.
They may have thought one more thing : bring some diversity.

And your comment on Arkanoid is kinda weird... Does Daybreak ring any bells ?

Finally, I'm fully prepared to forget everythiin I thought I ever knew about the game. It shows it's refreshing and breaking a metagame which is in place for some time now. Which is imo a good thing.

Then, I'll tend to say that pitchforks should wait for some games being played on it before actually criticize. I know you can theorycraft with the maps' dispositions, but if I learned one thing on the internet these last years, it's that 99% of theorycrafting is just plain bs (it's still my and only my opinion. I'm not pretending it's universally true).


Wut.
There's literally no entrance to your base. Every path is cut off by destructible rocks. Not sure what you're trying to say but you can pretty much forget everything you ever thought you knew. And that's retarded. And let me tell you RIGHT this second why they're doing this: so BW players don't get absolutely slaughtered by people like Rain, Bogus and the EG-TL guys who know the SC2 metagame better than anyone else. This way none of that matters because nobody will know what the flying fuck is actually going on. Well fucking played KeSPA.
For example, Arkanoid. Tell me how you're supposed to scout. You can't even fucking know what your opponent is doing or where he is until you scan/get an observer or overlord in their base OR destroy the 5 million destructible rocks on the map. What the fuck is the point of a game when you can't scout? What does that have to do with skill? You just 4 gate warp prism every game as protoss because it's the one gamble that catches most enemy builds?

Sure it's gonna be refreshing and all but it's got no place in what's supposed to be a serious and prestigeous SC2 tournament. Not unless you can FUCKING SCOUT YOUR OPPONENT.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
December 07 2012 16:14 GMT
#190
Hey is someone going to restream them at reasonable times ? 4 in the morning is not really working for me Those times are gone
Where is my ACE flair
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 07 2012 16:16 GMT
#191
On December 08 2012 00:19 RouaF wrote:
I'd be surprised if EG-TL actually wins it like predicted in this article. Time will tell.


ive come to think fionn is a bit biased, so i'll wait for the actual results :p
starleague forever
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
December 07 2012 16:40 GMT
#192
On December 08 2012 01:16 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 00:19 RouaF wrote:
I'd be surprised if EG-TL actually wins it like predicted in this article. Time will tell.


ive come to think fionn is a bit biased, so i'll wait for the actual results :p

fionn is also a bit cursed
he destroyed hyun's chance of winning last gsl because he said hyun would win in the middle of the series when hyun was up 3-2 vs sniper
naturally sniper dominated the moment fionn posted it was over
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
December 07 2012 16:49 GMT
#193
I have a feeling that Araknoid will result in air rushes, luck in breaking the right rocks, or LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG macro games.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
December 07 2012 16:59 GMT
#194
On December 08 2012 01:49 rice_devOurer wrote:
I have a feeling that Araknoid will result in air rushes, luck in breaking the right rocks, or LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG macro games.


It doesn't even matter because it's just a gamble map, no skill involved whatsoever. Who gambles right wins.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
December 07 2012 17:50 GMT
#195
On December 08 2012 00:31 jackslater wrote:
EG Luquid gogogo!



+1!
ClydeFrogSC2
Profile Joined December 2011
United States29 Posts
December 07 2012 18:21 GMT
#196
really hope bisu comes out of nowhere and stomps faces!
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
December 07 2012 19:18 GMT
#197
On December 08 2012 01:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 23:10 Ragnarork wrote:
On December 07 2012 20:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Take a look at the maps people, your brain will explode. You have NEVER seen stuff like that. I have no words for this.

WHO MADE THESE? What in every fuck where they thinking? Take three bases on Arkanoid without your opponent having a way into your base? Like... WHAT
The other maps are no better either. Prepare to forget everything you ever thought you knew about the game.


They were thinking one thing for sure : adapt BW maps.
They may have thought one more thing : bring some diversity.

And your comment on Arkanoid is kinda weird... Does Daybreak ring any bells ?

Finally, I'm fully prepared to forget everythiin I thought I ever knew about the game. It shows it's refreshing and breaking a metagame which is in place for some time now. Which is imo a good thing.

Then, I'll tend to say that pitchforks should wait for some games being played on it before actually criticize. I know you can theorycraft with the maps' dispositions, but if I learned one thing on the internet these last years, it's that 99% of theorycrafting is just plain bs (it's still my and only my opinion. I'm not pretending it's universally true).


Wut.
There's literally no entrance to your base. Every path is cut off by destructible rocks. Not sure what you're trying to say but you can pretty much forget everything you ever thought you knew. And that's retarded. And let me tell you RIGHT this second why they're doing this: so BW players don't get absolutely slaughtered by people like Rain, Bogus and the EG-TL guys who know the SC2 metagame better than anyone else. This way none of that matters because nobody will know what the flying fuck is actually going on. Well fucking played KeSPA.
For example, Arkanoid. Tell me how you're supposed to scout. You can't even fucking know what your opponent is doing or where he is until you scan/get an observer or overlord in their base OR destroy the 5 million destructible rocks on the map. What the fuck is the point of a game when you can't scout? What does that have to do with skill? You just 4 gate warp prism every game as protoss because it's the one gamble that catches most enemy builds?

Sure it's gonna be refreshing and all but it's got no place in what's supposed to be a serious and prestigeous SC2 tournament. Not unless you can FUCKING SCOUT YOUR OPPONENT.


You know, people complain about lack of innovation or stagnation in map design. KesPA put out new maps to try out and people still complain. No wonder why there is a stagnation in the first place.

There's a saying that don't judge the book by its cover. The same hold true here, don't judge a map only by a preview picture until it is tested that it is good or not. Many people who watched the game played on it during the show match between STX and SKT said that it bring a refreshing game play to a stagnate meta game so at least it has a potential.
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 21:05:52
December 07 2012 19:52 GMT
#198
For once HuK can't complain about Fionn's predictions ROFL

On December 08 2012 01:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 01:49 rice_devOurer wrote:
I have a feeling that Araknoid will result in air rushes, luck in breaking the right rocks, or LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG macro games.


It doesn't even matter because it's just a gamble map, no skill involved whatsoever. Who gambles right wins.

Scan / Overlord / Observer.

It's not that hard for top players to adjust to maps quick. Just look at how Bomber did during Trials of the Xel Naga. He would've steamrolled the tournament if the live audience there weren't morons.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 21:05:46
December 07 2012 21:05 GMT
#199
Double post sry
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
December 07 2012 21:24 GMT
#200
You sir have somehow got me interested in SC2.
I was reading Ver's schebang about patchzergs which dishearteningly implies that SC2 is being designed so that white guys have an assured shot at beating Koreans ... if they play Zerg. The reason being, white fans don't for the most part care about how good the Koreans are, just that a foreigner gets a spot in the top 8.

I realize it was great being a fan a few years ago, because since they were all Korean, I followed (or despised) the players' character and teams, not just the fact that they were a token upset. Sadly, the ESF players are largely just a panel of similar Korean faces to me, no personal story to enjoy (unless I do year's worth of digging).


But even if it's not BW they're playing anymore, I will fulfill my part-time promise, to entertain a following for proleague for the sake of personal stories and connections. Its different, but its still Jaedong and Fantasy and BOXER COACHING (I whimpered in delight when I read that) .... except now the board's been slanted so Idra has a fighting chance (LOL!). Oh and foreigners too, which is always nice. They're living a dream I'm sure many of us have entertained (I sure have).

So BW peeps, pinch your nose and dive in. SKT HWAITING! [and now I've got a sick SKT shirt, life rocks]
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rrwrwx
Profile Joined March 2011
United States247 Posts
December 07 2012 21:33 GMT
#201
I don't think that Idra can really still be considered a 'strong' foreigner. He has produced no results for a while now.
Celestia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico376 Posts
December 07 2012 21:40 GMT
#202
Where is the schedule? I can't find at what time this starts .
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#203
On December 08 2012 06:40 Celestia wrote:
Where is the schedule? I can't find at what time this starts .


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386503

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386505

The posted time is converted for your local timezone, look at those threads.
Celestia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico376 Posts
December 07 2012 21:54 GMT
#204
On December 08 2012 06:42 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 06:40 Celestia wrote:
Where is the schedule? I can't find at what time this starts .


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386503

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386505

The posted time is converted for your local timezone, look at those threads.

Thanks, next time i will just search the SPL tag .
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1835 Posts
December 07 2012 21:56 GMT
#205
I don't think LG-EG can be considered favorites in the PL, as it will be quite easy for other teams to research their replays and observe them streaming, and then develop a proper counters in the league games.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
December 07 2012 21:58 GMT
#206
On December 08 2012 06:56 Odoakar wrote:
I don't think LG-EG can be considered favorites in the PL, as it will be quite easy for other teams to research their replays and observe them streaming, and then develop a proper counters in the league games.

B teamers scrubbing dishes while watching IdrA's stream with clipboards, I can see it now.
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
December 07 2012 21:58 GMT
#207
i really, really want EG_TL to win, so so so so bad
Sc2 always got your back
Purpletrain
Profile Joined March 2011
United States8 Posts
December 08 2012 01:01 GMT
#208
I think they built EG liquid up too much. sure they have a lot of great players. But the Kespa teams practice all the time with top top level people. They spend their time creating builds and such. I see no reason why it would be a Korean top 4. It probably will
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GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
December 08 2012 04:30 GMT
#209
omfg this is so sad
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 08 2012 04:33 GMT
#210
On December 08 2012 10:01 Purpletrain wrote:
I think they built EG liquid up too much. sure they have a lot of great players. But the Kespa teams practice all the time with top top level people. They spend their time creating builds and such. I see no reason why it would be a Korean top 4. It probably will

When Hero, TaeJa and Stephano get there, it will be a different story.
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gn1k
Profile Joined July 2010
United States441 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 04:41:27
December 08 2012 04:40 GMT
#211
This did seem a bit ambitious. TT
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 08 2012 04:45 GMT
#212
I didn't say what kind of monster was unleashed.
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betaman
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom355 Posts
December 08 2012 04:59 GMT
#213
Overhyped much?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 08 2012 05:01 GMT
#214
On December 08 2012 13:59 betaman wrote:
Overhyped much?


They were missing their three best players. I had KT winning 4-1/4-0 with maybe JD taking their only win. Taeja and Hero will be the heart of the team if they want to be anywhere near the top of the league, and Jaedong will need to improve to give them a constant trio. Stephano is just an added piece/wild card when he ever makes guest appearances.

Just you wait, man. The monster is going to unleash any second now.
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justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
December 08 2012 05:07 GMT
#215
I don't get how Stephano can be on EG, but not be at probably the team's single biggest SC2 event.
Never make a hydralisk.
betaman
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom355 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 05:09:04
December 08 2012 05:08 GMT
#216
On December 08 2012 14:01 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 13:59 betaman wrote:
Overhyped much?


They were missing their three best players. I had KT winning 4-1/4-0 with maybe JD taking their only win. Taeja and Hero will be the heart of the team if they want to be anywhere near the top of the league, and Jaedong will need to improve to give them a constant trio. Stephano is just an added piece/wild card when he ever makes guest appearances.

Just you wait, man. The monster is going to unleash any second now.


I hope so but Taeja and Stephano are the teams "monsters" and Stephano isnt going to be there that much. Hero is only sporadically brilliant in my opinion. Cannot see the rest of the team winning many games.
AlLaboUtME
Profile Joined October 2012
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 05:26:49
December 08 2012 05:19 GMT
#217
Honestly it was a pretty optimistic move to put EGTL as rank 1 on the ranking, The lineup today was indeed a more "b-team-ish" line up with Zenio and JYP being perhaps the weakest players on EGTL, but no matter how good Taeja, HerO and Stephano plays they will give EGTL 3 wins, who is gonna win the last game? Those 3 players winning all their matches is an optimal situation, let alone them winning all the 3 matches against every team, and Stephano showing up to play. It`s really easy to post stuff like "who the hell wrote this?" after a 4-0 that didn't go in favor of the predictions though.
ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
December 08 2012 05:20 GMT
#218
who the hell wrote this rofl
Acidosis
Profile Joined April 2011
United States172 Posts
December 08 2012 05:22 GMT
#219
If the "B-teamer" of EGTL doesn't step their game up, the rest of the PL season will probably look like this. Regular season is not an all-kill format which I believe with players like Taeja and Stephano will perform well at. The BW pros will only get better as the time goes on and I don't see the same happening for players who have already been playing for 2 years plus.
“The will to win is not nearly as important as the will to prepare to win.” -BK
Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
December 08 2012 05:22 GMT
#220
To be honest this is what I expected.. great predictions Fionn.
densha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States797 Posts
December 08 2012 05:32 GMT
#221
I felt this was a little too optimistic but didn't want to go against the group, but I guess logic wins out over emotion once again. Then again, it was just one match, so let's see what happens next time.
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Ranir
Profile Joined June 2011
413 Posts
December 08 2012 05:56 GMT
#222
Nice prediction guys
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
December 08 2012 05:57 GMT
#223
welp
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
December 08 2012 06:24 GMT
#224
4-0 :D
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 07:15:17
December 08 2012 07:12 GMT
#225
wow... thats some bad predictions. but fionn has been off every time i've seen him predict kespa players results.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
December 08 2012 07:20 GMT
#226
I'll laugh so hard if Stars and Khan lose tomorrow...
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 08 2012 07:25 GMT
#227
star studded lineup
Neski
Profile Joined October 2012
17 Posts
December 08 2012 09:23 GMT
#228
Pretty accurate ranking here, CJ won the previous PL based mostly on their SC2 performance but are ranked near bottom while EG-TL both combined have only reached a 2nd place in an all-kill formataeja and are rank 1.
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
December 08 2012 09:56 GMT
#229
Even if it's only one match, I can help but giggle when I reread the OP ^^
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SEA KarMa
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia452 Posts
December 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#230
Unholy alliance is overrated. I still believe SK T1 will do much better.
"terrible, terrible damage". terrible, terrible design.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
December 08 2012 11:25 GMT
#231
KT at #7 and EG-TL at #1 is hilarious. I only just saw this preview but I'd have said this regardless.

KT is an established team that has a core of multiple championship winners, great camaraderie and staff. Oh and they also have the best RTS player alive heading their roster.

EG-TL is a ragtag group of big-name mercenaries thrown together into a new environment (not unlike team 8) that is collectively unproven. The training environment, management, player commitment and availability have me thinking this team will be doing well to remain competitive, let alone dominant. They have maybe three players who can hold their own for a while at least.

To think a foreigner team can go into Proleague and be a heavy favourite to make the finals is such hubris. It's hard enough beating players from the Korean team houses when they're on foreign soil in mass game, (almost) 0 prep tourneys (MLG/DH). Now to go and play them in their own booths and league that they've been accustomed to for years, albeit in a new game, is going to be ridiculously tough. Added in the preparation time the Kespa players thrive on, the complete dominance of the MvP invitational, the superior training environments and dedicated coaching staff....
Yhamm is the god of predictions
NiRvAnA22
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada50 Posts
December 08 2012 11:53 GMT
#232
B000000000000000000000000000000M SO WRONG
Dogs are getting smarter while people are getting dumber
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
December 08 2012 12:12 GMT
#233
On December 08 2012 20:25 Scarecrow wrote:
KT at #7 and EG-TL at #1 is hilarious. I only just saw this preview but I'd have said this regardless.

KT is an established team that has a core of multiple championship winners, great camaraderie and staff. Oh and they also have the best RTS player alive heading their roster.

EG-TL is a ragtag group of big-name mercenaries thrown together into a new environment (not unlike team 8) that is collectively unproven. The training environment, management, player commitment and availability have me thinking this team will be doing well to remain competitive, let alone dominant. They have maybe three players who can hold their own for a while at least.

To think a foreigner team can go into Proleague and be a heavy favourite to make the finals is such hubris. It's hard enough beating players from the Korean team houses when they're on foreign soil in mass game, (almost) 0 prep tourneys (MLG/DH). Now to go and play them in their own booths and league that they've been accustomed to for years, albeit in a new game, is going to be ridiculously tough. Added in the preparation time the Kespa players thrive on, the complete dominance of the MvP invitational, the superior training environments and dedicated coaching staff....


Yeah IMO this is like an individual Power ranking more than anything
banelings
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
December 08 2012 14:52 GMT
#234
I didn't think the Alliance would really be #1, they have the most well known players as far as SC2 results go, but this is ProLeague, it's a whole different beast than they're used to.

Hopefully this first match was a shot in the arm for EG-Liquid and they really prepare well for their next match to compensate.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
December 08 2012 15:42 GMT
#235
Looks like trusting my instincts and not giving into the hype was the correct move.
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acgFork
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada397 Posts
December 08 2012 16:19 GMT
#236
You were spot on, Fionn!!
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InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
December 08 2012 16:50 GMT
#237
It's been proven time and time again, money can't buy results, it takes time, hard work and commitment, and a lot of the EG players just mess around as if it were a frat house...

This is something the foreigners should stop doing, and the teams and managers should start forcing the players to train, or to leave.
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
December 08 2012 16:57 GMT
#238
Relax people.... its week 1.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33339 Posts
December 08 2012 18:51 GMT
#239
technically we CAN ban people for posting without reading the OP :o
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 08 2012 18:57 GMT
#240
Are you referring to the number of copout remarks and excuses sprinkled throughout the article? Probably should have taken all those things into account when raking the teams.
banzaiib
Profile Joined August 2010
United States53 Posts
December 08 2012 20:53 GMT
#241
EG-TL 0-4 i lol'd... and then cringed... and then wished I had seen it...

Why is it so hard to find a stream / vod link for this? I found it on the "upcoming events" schedule, but there's no stream link... but there is one, right above it, for the oGaming vs Triumph e-Sports - Bo9 $100... derp.

Ok, it's not THAT hard to find it, but for someone just getting into the esports scene, it's hardly straight-forward. Every advertisement for the NFL has the date, time, and channel on which you can view the game they're talking about... because they want you to watch.... seems like that info should be on any advertisement for SC2 proleague as well. <shrug>
iiant14ii
Profile Joined February 2012
12 Posts
December 08 2012 21:05 GMT
#242
can someone explain to me where the fuck i can watch this sk pro league. i cant even find a home website for them
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 08 2012 21:07 GMT
#243
Go to live report threads and look for stream/vod links.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 08 2012 21:12 GMT
#244
On December 09 2012 06:05 iiant14ii wrote:
can someone explain to me where the fuck i can watch this sk pro league. i cant even find a home website for them


http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague English VODS

http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV/videos?view=0 Korean VODS

for upcoming games look at sc2 tournaments section of the forums
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
December 09 2012 09:43 GMT
#245
Those predictions. So good. ;o
kugel
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany116 Posts
December 09 2012 12:49 GMT
#246
so there will be english vods via twich for free the entiere season or until they finished their negotiations?
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
December 09 2012 19:49 GMT
#247
This write up seemed ridiculously biased. It turned out that it was.
Headhunts
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia8 Posts
December 09 2012 22:09 GMT
#248
i loled at liquid-eg as number 1. adding jaedong will achieve nothing as jaedong is code B player as it is.
What need is there to cry over parts of life? The whole of it calls for it.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
December 10 2012 01:53 GMT
#249
Well EG-Liquid didn't exactly use their best players. They used Zenio, JYP, Thorzain, and Jaedong, while leaving Huk and Puma for the end so they didn't even get to go.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 19:26:46
December 10 2012 19:25 GMT
#250
I just now read this and i think this ranking is too bold and biased . Regardless of the first 2 days results and last season's hybrid Proleague , placing KT and CJ a playoffs regulars 7 and 6 and EG - TL at number 1 was lol worthy . Ten years of experience will show it's magnitude . Just having skilled players won't necessarily make you the number one team .
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
December 12 2012 13:05 GMT
#251
imho, SKT1 will play KT in the finals.
EG-TL (as someone mentioned consisting of JD/jetlagged/jetlagged////) will place at 6-8.
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
December 12 2012 16:15 GMT
#252
As previously mentioned. A bit silly to rank EG-TL as #1 Nice play by + Show Spoiler +
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
January 29 2013 23:58 GMT
#253
+ Show Spoiler +
If you swich STX and Woongjing, the four highest teams in this preview are the four lowest in the actual PL ranking. And it is true the other way around of course, the four best teams in this ranking are the four teams in the bottom of the actual ranking.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
real1g
Profile Joined June 2013
United States7 Posts
July 12 2013 20:21 GMT
#254
EGTL @ #1?
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