Oh you guys too funny.
I really hope Genius plays well :D
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Trowa127
United Kingdom1230 Posts
Oh you guys too funny. I really hope Genius plays well :D | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
Gumi Bears better not lose tonight and I am hoping that Jaedong crushes Genius. | ||
Juliette
United States6003 Posts
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Scrutinizer
170 Posts
On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE. About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good. Good post, I pretty much agree with this. It makes me laugh to still see TL writers talk about slumps or psychological blunders etc.. to explain the results. They either forget or do not know that being a Kespa A teamer (for 2007 and onwards) means being a machine. All the GOM players playing pacman against Kespa players like Jaedong or Effort or even Soulkey, should feel honored. | ||
DRTnOOber
New Zealand476 Posts
On August 16 2012 09:19 phyren wrote: You know, I like these write ups and reviews and such, but they could do with a little bit of a coser look in the editing phase. I imagine the frequency with which tey have to be put out makes the difficult. Anyway, as to the games: when does this sense of extreme nervousness vs kespa players end? Several players have mentioned it in their interviews, but what will it take before the kespa players don't inspire bad play in their opponents? Maybe Genius is it, but honestly the zvp performances in kespa matches makes me think genius should have this regardless. Can you explain what is wrong with the article that it needs more editing so they know what to work on? Also... it's a bit hard to take you seriously with so many typos in your own post ![]() | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE. About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good. Coca made tons of blunders. YuGiOh played like crap against Reality and Fero. The most impressive KeSPA players so far have been Soulkey and Effort, no question. | ||
niukasu1990
1007 Posts
On August 16 2012 13:54 Fionn wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE. About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good. Coca made tons of blunders. YuGiOh played like crap against Reality and Fero. The most impressive KeSPA players so far have been Soulkey and Effort, no question. That is my point. I played like crap against a master player. No player is good enough to make no mistake. A good player will catch the opponent's mistake and make his/her opponent's like a crap but a bad player will skip it. When MKP vs Yugioh in ODT, yugioh late game play like crap too. It is not fair to say that everytime Kespa's winnings are because of GSL player slumping. It is Kespa's players skill make GSL player like a crap. It is the same when the very top GSL players win Kespa's players and say it is because Kespa's players are slumping. Obviously, Kespa Player still has a large gap between the very top player like DRG. But at particular matchup like zvz, they are the best of the world now. In addition, zvz is one of the least volatile matchup, a player like effort and DRG with that amazing micro can easily win a game in zergling-baneling play. I would say the best player in Kespa actually is trap or rain but actually they are at most Code S Ro16 level. (effort zvp is crap of the crap) | ||
niukasu1990
1007 Posts
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FATJESUSONABIKE
184 Posts
On August 16 2012 15:12 niukasu1990 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2012 13:54 Fionn wrote: On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE. About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good. Coca made tons of blunders. YuGiOh played like crap against Reality and Fero. The most impressive KeSPA players so far have been Soulkey and Effort, no question. That is my point. I played like crap against a master player. No player is good enough to make no mistake. A good player will catch the opponent's mistake and make his/her opponent's like a crap but a bad player will skip it. When MKP vs Yugioh in ODT, yugioh late game play like crap too. It is not fair to say that everytime Kespa's winnings are because of GSL player slumping. It is Kespa's players skill make GSL player like a crap. It is the same when the very top GSL players win Kespa's players and say it is because Kespa's players are slumping. Obviously, Kespa Player still has a large gap between the very top player like DRG. But at particular matchup like zvz, they are the best of the world now. In addition, zvz is one of the least volatile matchup, a player like effort and DRG with that amazing micro can easily win a game in zergling-baneling play. I would say the best player in Kespa actually is trap or rain but actually they are at most Code S Ro16 level. (effort zvp is crap of the crap) .... Not the best english :p | ||
niukasu1990
1007 Posts
On August 16 2012 15:22 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2012 15:12 niukasu1990 wrote: On August 16 2012 13:54 Fionn wrote: On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE. About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good. Coca made tons of blunders. YuGiOh played like crap against Reality and Fero. The most impressive KeSPA players so far have been Soulkey and Effort, no question. That is my point. I played like crap against a master player. No player is good enough to make no mistake. A good player will catch the opponent's mistake and make his/her opponent's like a crap but a bad player will skip it. When MKP vs Yugioh in ODT, yugioh late game play like crap too. It is not fair to say that everytime Kespa's winnings are because of GSL player slumping. It is Kespa's players skill make GSL player like a crap. It is the same when the very top GSL players win Kespa's players and say it is because Kespa's players are slumping. Obviously, Kespa Player still has a large gap between the very top player like DRG. But at particular matchup like zvz, they are the best of the world now. In addition, zvz is one of the least volatile matchup, a player like effort and DRG with that amazing micro can easily win a game in zergling-baneling play. I would say the best player in Kespa actually is trap or rain but actually they are at most Code S Ro16 level. (effort zvp is crap of the crap) .... Not the best english :p so sad that I am not native speaker | ||
Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
In my opinion though, Horror vs Sun were very good /enterteining matches :/, not sure why Wax made them look so bad. | ||
bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE. About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good. drg use to be an absolute master of ling bane. Him getting an advantage and then throwing away a game is not a sign of drg playing to the standard we've come to expect. | ||
niukasu1990
1007 Posts
On August 16 2012 16:25 bo1b wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE. About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good. drg use to be an absolute master of ling bane. Him getting an advantage and then throwing away a game is not a sign of drg playing to the standard we've come to expect. That is a 20MINUTE intensive zvz, and effort is the strongest man in zvz,what DRG had not experienced. He used to be perfect in 10 Minute does not mean that he can be perfect in 20minute | ||
shin ken
Germany612 Posts
My stomach always cringes when I see "fake hero" or fero because he's clearly not faking the nickname. Foxer was great for MarineKing because he was clearly faking the name of one of his idols but I doubt thats the case here. So how can we distinguish the heros? For example liquid Hero is written uppercase and cj hero is lowercase. Back in the days (at least in counterstrike) we used the "mini" tag: Liquid Hero can stay "Hero", CJ hero becomes mini-hero. I don't how we mix the T8 hero into this - maybe hero2 or "hero II" because his name reads like Jo "hero" Il Jang? | ||
bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On August 16 2012 16:49 niukasu1990 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2012 16:25 bo1b wrote: On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE. About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good. drg use to be an absolute master of ling bane. Him getting an advantage and then throwing away a game is not a sign of drg playing to the standard we've come to expect. That is a 20MINUTE intensive zvz, and effort is the strongest man in zvz,what DRG had not experienced. He used to be perfect in 10 Minute does not mean that he can be perfect in 20minute At 7 minutes into the game drg killed both of efforts queens and had more drones and lings. If he was playing at the standard he used to set he would have absolutely won that game. | ||
Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On August 16 2012 17:29 Grumbels wrote: DRG losing to Effort - even assuming the latter's early game micro is superior, is still a failure on DRG's part for not using his experience to just skip the early game. Because he wanted to KILL effort, and if he was superior in micro he would do this. Its pretty simple, you kill crippled opponents and efforts godly defense and simcity turned the tide away. Such things are possible even in SC2... | ||
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